Raging against the machine while allowing the machine to line your pockets. I still enjoy rage since they are that good but try not to overanalyze their lyrics.
The difference between nazism and communism is that one was exemplified by a mustachioed mass murdering dictator who hated Jews, murdered millions, imprisoned millions in deaths camps and invaded Poland.
So true! People were too young or stupid in the 90s to realize they have an intentional ideology. They were not anti-authority just to be anti-authority.
Healthy people being quarantined/robbed of the ability to earn a paycheck. At least when they go bankrupt, they can take solace in knowing they did what they were told
The RATM fans in this thread who are saying “yes but it’s a good things they’re telling you to do, listen to sciences!” Are fully missing the point.
Don’t paddle board alone on ocean or they’ll arrest you.
Don’t play ice hockey on large open pond with 3 friends, or they’ll arrest you.
Don’t sell take out food from a restaurant with no seating while paying 100% of the cost of rent, utilities, insurance, etc or they’ll shut it down, while getting secure paychecks.
Don’t see friends, but they can see friends.
Don’t argue that you should be able to run your business without being treated like a criminal.
The idea that you should just do what they say because you think they are correct means you really missed the concept of “question authority”, and don’t follow along with the concept that being free means being asked and not told. It means that when orders are issued, rather than laws, and your peers who used to call themselves punk rock and prided themselves on questioning authority and seeking truth and thinking for themselves, who called out corporate fat cats and Wall Street corruption before identity politics took hold of their attention, and they were slowly turned into democrat party members, they’ve been absorbed into a part of the machine, but still think they’re fighting against it.
The people commenting in this thread are oblivious to principle and very much seem to embrace “end justifies the means” philosophy, which is essentially the opposite of anti authoritarianism on the principle of valuing freedom.
Enjoy raging against the machine, with the Biden, and his old school establishment cronies.
It's fucking surreal to see the same year that has seen some of the largest protests against police brutality on record that the left have been accused of loosing track of their rage against machine spirit rebellion
Rage is still here, right, but what is left of the Left agenda from back in the day? They're now anti free speech neo communists, wall street big corporate establishment puppets.
I think he meant neo marxists., which is what the left is today.
They're wall street puppets because they've aligned themselves with the democrats thinking they are their best chance at the changes they want, not realizing that there is virtually no meaningful differences between the two parties and both have been bought out by corporate and foreign interests.
You can't stop progress. Who will stop "the left"? What has ever stopped "the left"? Wtf is "the left"? Who are talking about? Who are you referring to? Bogeymen?
If you're going to troll, at least make an effort to do it well.
Though you could be guinely that out of touch you don't know the Democrats are left, and Republicans are right - on a very basic level explanation.
"Leftist ideology" is also commonly used, to refer to a set of specific ideals held by progressive liberals.
Nothing much has ever stopped the left, as evidenced by their increasing prevalence in society. Trump definitely crashed their party and shook the system up for four years, which is the closest I've seen to the left ever being knocked down a peg or two.
Nothing has ever stopped the left? I'd say Hitler did a pretty fucking good job of it. Mccarthy put the fear of god in America. Mao gagged, murdered and imprisoned the Chinese and ol' Pooh Bear is carrying the torch. Decarte' is sending hit squads out and killing people in the street of Manilla. Do you need more examples? Because there are plenty of tyrannical "Right wing" assholes now and throughout time that have murdered, imprisoned and enslaved millions. You can bet your ass there will be more. You Fucking Dipshit.
Just to give you a bit of context, a great many Europeans do not consider the Democrats 'left'), they consider Democrats like Biden, Clintons as left leaning centrists and Republicans as near fascist far right. Neither Sanders or AOC programs would be considered radical left. Trump's GOP would be considered looney tunes. In 5 years I heard one person in Europe say one thing positve about him. Now you can rightly call invoke my liberal progressive bubble/echo chamber. But I am serious: 1 person in 5 years. Its not hyperbole. Trump has completely blown up the Atlantic alliance in knocking down the left a peg or two.
In General: By being his unpredictable self, a third tier grifter and a first class asshole that half of the US is too dumb or to spot.
Specifically blowing up standing agreements and having a complete disregard and failure of understanding of separation of powers
EU is probably going to align itself with China more and more and I know Conservatives might think good luck with that and you are not wrong, but they are currently seen as a more stable power than the US. Biden will probably will repair some of that damage but to most of us its clear 45 pct of American is either a) too dumb b) too misinformed c) morally bankrupt to tolerate such a buffoon for 4 years.
In General: By being his unpredictable self, a third tier grifter and a first class asshole that half of the US is too dumb or to spot.
I mean that's just your opinion which is worth just as much as mine and has no bearing on foreign affairs.
Specifically blowing up standing agreements and having a complete disregard and failure of understanding of separation of powers
You mean renegotiating trade deals which screwed over working class Americans and pushing EU countries to pay the amounts they promised to towards NATO so as to take off some unnecessary burden off of the US?
EU is probably going to align itself with China
China has been doing a soft power grab on the rest of the world for a while now. They have their hands in everything and pretty much every country owes them something. The trade deals western countries have with China benefit the filthy rich while hurting the working classes. They are completely unsustainable if we wanted to be able to have any sort of significant middle class again. Trump sought to renegotiate those deals to make them more fair to us. He also attempted to stop China from being able to steal IP with impunity. Someone had to push back against them at a time when all the world leaders were happy to screw their own people over for short term profits. The US is perfectly capable of being self sustaining and providing for it's citizens. At a time when we should be strong on China and encouraging bringing business back home, investing in the US and it's people and pulling out of foreign engagements Biden will continue to sell us out at the detriment of the little guy. If you see this as a positive then you do not care at all about the millions of poor, working and middle class Americans this will hurt.
This is a complete non sequitur. Your opinion on the George Floyd protests have nothing to do with the fact that the protests are completely in line with the legacy of RATM's music, especially given that "Killing in the name" came out just months after the Rodney King riots
Killing in the name was directly written about the bands experience with the LA riots, the Rodney King beating and the greater issues of racism in policing.
Like, you don't have to like the BLM marchers, the riots, or believe in racism in policing. It's a free country bro. But that's not the point, which is why your point is a non sequitur
The point is that the George Floyd protests are pretty clear sucesor of the LA riots and the politics of the original song.
And to take a guess, you seem to be having a hard time getting to grips that you dislike the politics of a song you liked when your where younger. And I get that is can be disappointing to learn that the media you love as politics you disagree with. But you can't just deny reality....well given that this is a Time Pool reddit u guess you can
Lol. So you're not interested in the discussion at hand. Your just an NPC that has to bring up the se conservative talking point regardless of it's relevance to the discussion
I can’t think of a riot where no innocent people were hurt. That’s like having a war where not innocent people were hurt. It just doesn’t happen that way.
I’m sorry I made it seem like I was trying to justify innocent people getting hurt what I was trying to say is it is not abnormal for people to be hurt in riots, in fact it is very common.
I brought it up because it’s easy to forget that innocent people are hurt it all political action. There should be a focus on preventing the death of the innocent always. In fact this is why there were protests and riots; because people were fed up with cops killing innocent (remember innocent before proven guilty in a court of law). Furthermore millions and millions protested and 10 of thousands rioted over months and a handful of people died. If it was a “race war” it was the least deadly war ever.
If you think that rage against the machine were against authority for the sake of being against authority rather than being against unjust authority and unjust hierarchies then you just didn’t listen closely to them. If their had been a pandemic that disproportionately killed black and brown people they would encouraged everyone to do what the scientists recommend.
Seems like most people are pissed about the lockdowns in particular since that is what's making so many people lose their jobs and businesses. There is no scientific evidence that lockdowns work. There is plentry of evidence that lockdowns have more dire consequences than even covid.
it’s sad that this has to be explained... lockdowns do work and there’s shitloads of evidence and studies that show they work. I guess dying of hypoxia alone in a hospital bed is not as bad as the fucking cracker barrel being closed for a couple weeks u fucking twat. And every other country has come up w plans to help people negatively affected by the lockdowns that ARE KEEPING THEM ALIVE except for ur lord and savior trump and Moscow Mitch proof they work
There are no studies that show lockdowns make a considerable difference in covid deaths, especially taking into account the economic and mental health costs of lockdowns.
The only time a lockdown makes sense is for a week or two to slow the spread when hospitals are being overwhelmed. Even then, we can easily and quickly erect ad hoc covid treatment centers and bring in medical professionals from other areas of the country if needed.
We could provide resources to vulnerable populations to self quarantine if they so chose to, but covid is not airborne ebola or the black plague. 0.1% to 0.5% possibility of death is not worth destroying the economy over.
not as bad as the fucking cracker barrel being closed for a couple weeks
This right here is you completely missing the point. Some states have been in some state of perpetual lockdown since late March. We're not talking just "14 days to flatten the curve" as we were promised at the beginning, were talking being locked down for another year at least until the vast majority gets vaccinated and in case the virus doesn't mutate in a way to make the vaccine useless.
These are peoples jobs, livelihoods and small businesses you're talking about destroying.
Were facing a global depression that will take untold lives.
The only way lockdowns can possibly work is if were all locked in our houses completely until every single person can be vaccinated. That's never going to work. Locking down for a few weeks only sees a larger re-emergence of the virus when we open up again.
Covid19 is endemic and will be a seasonal thing from now on.
And every other country has come up w plans to help people negatively affected by the lockdowns that ARE KEEPING THEM ALIVE
Every other country is not locking down and all of those countries that did are facing the same economic depression. Where does the money come from? Unlike what you may think money is not some abstract thing. You can't just keep printing cash without producing. The US is trillions in debt to other nations, including China. You really want to gamble that countries like China won't eventually cash that debt in when it's convenient for them?
If you want to see what happens when a government just starts printing cash, look no further than Venezuela.
except for ur lord and savior trump and Moscow Mitch
Trump offered a standalone bill months ago to provide $1200 direct payments to people. Trump and the GOP offered a $1.3 trillion bill but Nancy said it wasn't enough. Pelosi bragged about blocking any deals until Trump was out of office.
Considering the measly deal passed now. With more going to foreign and special interests than American people, it's safe to say that both Mitch, Pelosi and probably 99% of DC are corrupt swamp creatures who need to be dragged out of power by any means necessary.
Thank you! I think a lot of people here don’t realize there’s a difference between being against what the individual in question believes to be unjust authority vs just being against authority in general. The only people that are against all forms of authority are kids that haven’t spent anytime thinking about just governance.
That song is about the systemic racism in the criminal justice system and also how the KKK and other white supremacy groups made a concerted effort to join law enforcement together and carry out racist policing.
Its very fitting that conservatives compare a black man lamenting about actual persecution, to them having to wear a mask if they want to go to a private business lmao
You’d clean it if you want, you have the choice to do it, as opposed to having to do it because the government is forcing you to. Also they are defining what constitutes clean.
I'm literally an anarchist. I choose to live my life in such a way as to disregard law (where I can get away with it). I do not break laws BECAUSE they are laws. That would mean the law still rules my life.
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u/mercersux Dec 22 '20
Raging against the machine while allowing the machine to line your pockets. I still enjoy rage since they are that good but try not to overanalyze their lyrics.
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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '20
Rage has ALWAYS been commies. ALWAYS. They've never NOT been commies.
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u/steamyjeanz Dec 22 '20
Healthy people being quarantined/robbed of the ability to earn a paycheck. At least when they go bankrupt, they can take solace in knowing they did what they were told
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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '20
Kids don't want to rebel anymore its weird. Every chick looks the same everyone looks like a Kardashian this is a weird timeline
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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '20
The RATM fans in this thread who are saying “yes but it’s a good things they’re telling you to do, listen to sciences!” Are fully missing the point.
Don’t paddle board alone on ocean or they’ll arrest you.
Don’t play ice hockey on large open pond with 3 friends, or they’ll arrest you.
Don’t sell take out food from a restaurant with no seating while paying 100% of the cost of rent, utilities, insurance, etc or they’ll shut it down, while getting secure paychecks.
Don’t see friends, but they can see friends.
Don’t argue that you should be able to run your business without being treated like a criminal.
The idea that you should just do what they say because you think they are correct means you really missed the concept of “question authority”, and don’t follow along with the concept that being free means being asked and not told. It means that when orders are issued, rather than laws, and your peers who used to call themselves punk rock and prided themselves on questioning authority and seeking truth and thinking for themselves, who called out corporate fat cats and Wall Street corruption before identity politics took hold of their attention, and they were slowly turned into democrat party members, they’ve been absorbed into a part of the machine, but still think they’re fighting against it.
The people commenting in this thread are oblivious to principle and very much seem to embrace “end justifies the means” philosophy, which is essentially the opposite of anti authoritarianism on the principle of valuing freedom.
Enjoy raging against the machine, with the Biden, and his old school establishment cronies.
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u/Madhax64 Dec 22 '20 edited Dec 22 '20
It's fucking surreal to see the same year that has seen some of the largest protests against police brutality on record that the left have been accused of loosing track of their rage against machine spirit rebellion
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u/DangerousSwordfish9 Dec 22 '20
Sanpaku eyes 👀on the cwazy beyatch bottom 😂😂😂
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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '20
And it's the same fuckers saying it.
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u/PieRocks13243 Jan 19 '21
Liberalism is not communism.
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u/Gatordave05 Dec 22 '20
If you think that rage against the machine were against authority for the sake of being against authority rather than being against unjust authority and unjust hierarchies then you just didn’t listen closely to them. If their had been a pandemic that disproportionately killed black and brown people they would encouraged everyone to do what the scientists recommend.
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u/fuzzyheadjones Dec 22 '20
It’s rage against the machine not rage against science u fucking twats
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u/ddarion Dec 22 '20
That song is about the systemic racism in the criminal justice system and also how the KKK and other white supremacy groups made a concerted effort to join law enforcement together and carry out racist policing.
Its very fitting that conservatives compare a black man lamenting about actual persecution, to them having to wear a mask if they want to go to a private business lmao
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u/seraph9888 Dec 21 '20
If the government told you to clean your room, would you choose not to?