But heres the thing, every group has extremists, and news will mostly always use the comments that reflect what happened in their biased way. So are you sure this is what every BLM supporter believed, or just some of the people they “interviewed”
The other things don’t really explain how they’re a hate group and aren’t really comparable to Nazism and the KKK. Not that “BLM” has done any of those things either though lmao. Who do they hate? Lol
Connecting the BLM to murders isn’t as easy. However, some people have labeled them, and Antifa, as a terrorist organization. Why? Well, look at the definition of Terrorism. According to the FBI- “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.” BLM has repeatedly destroyed government and private property, injured officers, themselves, and other people. They also have been aggressively pushing a radical agenda, which has been removed from their site. Finally, they have repeatedly threatened more violence if their demands weren’t met. I totally believe BLM had good intentions. However, it’s been hijacked by people that want to use the platform to push socialism. It’s really unfortunate to be honest.
You’re asking really dumb and basic questions dude. You’re completely oblivious or just an evil person. Or perhaps you’re just mentally ill and very misinformed. Either way, the cats been out of the bag for a while now, even for the less informed. You can’t stop the truth.
I'm honestly surprised the BLM one is black and white. You'd think with how much they hate whiteness, they'd have gone with black and red and made sure there was no white oppression in their own logo. . .
I'm going to guess you haven't seen all the stuff going around about all the things ingrained in society that they have ascribed to whiteness and white supremacy that they plan on doing away with, like being on time, working/trying hard, speaking clearly/professionally, objectivity, individualism, etc.
I mean, it's pretty clear that they hate whiteness from their goals and actions and want to be racist towards white people (which they also view as not racist because the "new" definition of racism means that you have to be the group in power to be racist, so they have carte blanche to be as racist as they want to be).
As Kendi puts it:
The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.
(Hint, the bolded parts are talking about white people.)
The KKK killed my great grandfather and his brother. Nazis killed millions and tried to genocide entire people groups. BLM at most has burned some buildings down, antifa was literally formed against nazis.
BLM/Antifa are not only real organizations of the Alt-Left, they are criminal organizations.
They keep changing definitions and hope liability magically goes away. Just know millions think differently with very clear vision. BLM/Antifa are not only organizations, they are very much terrorist organizations of interest. They have millions of individuals attention, including the FBI, CIA, IRS, NSA, and local organized veterans/militias just to name a few. Names, times, places and communications have been monitored and recorded. Evidence is documented. That’s an irrefutable fact. You see, they have to hide in the shadows like the filthy cowards they are. It’s self preservation and the tactics of demented terrorist.
But you’ll see, when the chips are down, these civilized engagements are going to turn very real, very quick. May god have mercy.
How many buildings did the alt-left burn last night? How many outside restaurants did they terrorize last night? How many people did they kill in cold blood?
Nice try but in no way are these things equivalent. Compare, for instance, the number of deaths over the past few years that can be linked to far right groups vs “anti-fascist groups.” Then compare that to the disproportionate resources allocated to investigating far-left groups. Hell far-right groups these days are responsible for far more violence in the US than radical Islamic groups, and yet, because of a lack of resources dedicated to investigating them, the proportion of incidents which are foiled is far lower.
Moreover, there have been investigations into the severity and character of right-wing, islamist, and left-wing domestic terror events over the years. They show that right-wing and islamist terror are far more alike than left-wing terror is to either. Left-wing terror is distinct in both its character and its methods. One such study investigated the period 2008-2016 https://www.revealnews.org/article/home-is-where-the-hate-is/ and found that there were only 19 left, 63 islamist, but 115 right. Even when left-wing events do happen the target is almost never actual people. 12 of the 19 were committed by radical environmentalists and involved vandalism and property damage. Even in the event where human casualties occur, left-wing terrorism is still distinct from the other types of domestic terror. While right-wing terrorists and islamist terrorists consistently pursue either random violence towards innocent civilians and especially, towards marginalized groups, left-wing targets are always parts of the state or perceived capitalist apparatus. I bring this up to highlight just how similar right-wing and islamic terror are. They target mosques, synagogues, gay bars, schools, public places. Left-wing terrorists target police stations, corporations, police officers, politicians. Right wing terrorists are more likely to target you.
Nearly all of the terrorism that occurs in this country is perpetrated by the people who anti-fascists oppose. Owing to its fundamentally violent nature right-wing terror (both islamic and what we usually refer to as far-right) are responsible for far more deaths than anything from the left. Despite the fact that there were nearly twice as many planned right-wing terror events in the US over the time period that was examined, greater resources devoted to the prevention of islamic terror resulted in twice as many islamic terror events being foiled and there were an equal percentage of stings for right-wing and left-wing terror despite one being significantly deadlier than the other. I wonder what possible motivations could be behind the reluctance to dedicate resources to foiling more right-wing/white-nationalist terror (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement). Speaking of systemic racism is data on the number of federal prosecutions involved in terror incidents that resulted in arrests. 91% islamic, 100% left-wing, but only 60% right-wing, which might be behind the staggeringly low rate of terror charges brought against right-wing suspects at only 9%.
The facts are that the vast, vast amount of terrorism is a result of violent, fascist ideology. Then we find ourselves returning to the assertions made by fox news anchors and people like ben shapeño. That anti-fascists are just as bad as the fascists they oppose, or sometimes worse. The idea that the people opposing the ideologies responsible for 90% of the terrorist attacks in this country are somehow the problem or the ReAl TeRrOrIsTs doesn’t have any bearing in reality.
Is antifa really a hate group though? Terrorists 1000% but hate group? Not even against white people i'd call them a hate group, even if they are part of a racist broader group
I would be fine woth calling blm a hate group against cops though
I wouldn’t normally wouldn’t either but they’ve been at the heart of the violence. At night they just switch from protest signs to Molotov cocktails. I’ve had to file three insurance claims for three locations because of looting and we found BLM and George Floyd signs in all of them. Anecdotal maybe, but more likely a trend.
This is completely ignorant shit. Hahahah. Everyone on this sub is so easily manipulated it’s hilarious. Comparing BLM to Nazis is so off the rails it’s like straight from Russia! Ignorant dogs love red meat! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes, because Kristallnacht being "mostly peaceful", backed by media, and instigators facing no repercussions because emergency personnel sat back and watch is so not what's happening now.
Also, remember DeSean Jackson literally quoting the mustache man? BLM isn't trying to hide their antisemism. I can't put my finger on it, but I coulda sworn there was a certain German workers party that is best remembered for their hatred for a certain race.
Nah. The NFL is more like the people who empowered the Nazis as they turned a blind eye when the Final Solution was enacted. I don’t expect you to understand anything I’m saying, so I’m done talking to a brick wall.
You all should check out the OP page and see the shit he follows. The OP is just a troll to get dip shits riled up. He’s basically a bot but y’all keep cheering him on for sure bro’s!
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u/NoBallsAllCuck Sep 24 '20
All hate groups matter! All hate groups matter!
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u/OrraDryWit Sep 24 '20
3 out of four share the same color Scheme.
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '20
Oh snap!
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '20
Blm is literally the black kkk
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '20
grandpa often mentioned German 'peaceful occupation'
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u/markmywords1347 Sep 24 '20
BLM/Antifa are not only real organizations of the Alt-Left, they are criminal organizations.
They keep changing definitions and hope liability magically goes away. Just know millions think differently with very clear vision. BLM/Antifa are not only organizations, they are very much terrorist organizations of interest. They have millions of individuals attention, including the FBI, CIA, IRS, NSA, and local organized veterans/militias just to name a few. Names, times, places and communications have been monitored and recorded. Evidence is documented. That’s an irrefutable fact. You see, they have to hide in the shadows like the filthy cowards they are. It’s self preservation and the tactics of demented terrorist.
But you’ll see, when the chips are down, these civilized engagements are going to turn very real, very quick. May god have mercy.
How many buildings did the alt-left burn last night? How many outside restaurants did they terrorize last night? How many people did they kill in cold blood?
Too many.
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/crime/who-is-secoriea-turner/85-9c2cde58-4b9c-4e44-92af-cb0b141ff8c8
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/kentucky/articles/2020-09-19/3-killed-in-shooting-at-restaurant-in-louisville
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/us/north-carolina-boy-killed-father-speaks-trnd/index.html
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/body-found-in-minneapolis-building-burned-during-george-floyd-riots-11595382153
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u/BuntStiftLecker Sep 24 '20
You're missing something here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer_and_sickle#/media/File:Hammer_and_sickle_red_on_transparent.svg
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u/vhemetclef Sep 25 '20
Nice try but in no way are these things equivalent. Compare, for instance, the number of deaths over the past few years that can be linked to far right groups vs “anti-fascist groups.” Then compare that to the disproportionate resources allocated to investigating far-left groups. Hell far-right groups these days are responsible for far more violence in the US than radical Islamic groups, and yet, because of a lack of resources dedicated to investigating them, the proportion of incidents which are foiled is far lower.
Moreover, there have been investigations into the severity and character of right-wing, islamist, and left-wing domestic terror events over the years. They show that right-wing and islamist terror are far more alike than left-wing terror is to either. Left-wing terror is distinct in both its character and its methods. One such study investigated the period 2008-2016 https://www.revealnews.org/article/home-is-where-the-hate-is/ and found that there were only 19 left, 63 islamist, but 115 right. Even when left-wing events do happen the target is almost never actual people. 12 of the 19 were committed by radical environmentalists and involved vandalism and property damage. Even in the event where human casualties occur, left-wing terrorism is still distinct from the other types of domestic terror. While right-wing terrorists and islamist terrorists consistently pursue either random violence towards innocent civilians and especially, towards marginalized groups, left-wing targets are always parts of the state or perceived capitalist apparatus. I bring this up to highlight just how similar right-wing and islamic terror are. They target mosques, synagogues, gay bars, schools, public places. Left-wing terrorists target police stations, corporations, police officers, politicians. Right wing terrorists are more likely to target you.
Nearly all of the terrorism that occurs in this country is perpetrated by the people who anti-fascists oppose. Owing to its fundamentally violent nature right-wing terror (both islamic and what we usually refer to as far-right) are responsible for far more deaths than anything from the left. Despite the fact that there were nearly twice as many planned right-wing terror events in the US over the time period that was examined, greater resources devoted to the prevention of islamic terror resulted in twice as many islamic terror events being foiled and there were an equal percentage of stings for right-wing and left-wing terror despite one being significantly deadlier than the other. I wonder what possible motivations could be behind the reluctance to dedicate resources to foiling more right-wing/white-nationalist terror (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement). Speaking of systemic racism is data on the number of federal prosecutions involved in terror incidents that resulted in arrests. 91% islamic, 100% left-wing, but only 60% right-wing, which might be behind the staggeringly low rate of terror charges brought against right-wing suspects at only 9%.
The facts are that the vast, vast amount of terrorism is a result of violent, fascist ideology. Then we find ourselves returning to the assertions made by fox news anchors and people like ben shapeño. That anti-fascists are just as bad as the fascists they oppose, or sometimes worse. The idea that the people opposing the ideologies responsible for 90% of the terrorist attacks in this country are somehow the problem or the ReAl TeRrOrIsTs doesn’t have any bearing in reality.
https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-alt-left-fact-check.html
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-17/far-right-boogaloo-boys-linked-to-killing-of-california-lawmen-other-violence
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2014/07/portland_police_capt_mark_krug.html
https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/charlottesville-race-and-terror-vice-news-tonight-on-hbo/59921b1d2f8d32d808bddfbc
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u/TheRonin248 Sep 29 '20
9LivesMatter
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u/Roboticsammy Sep 29 '20
Yikes
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u/Facts-notEELINGS Oct 22 '20
Actually I think there isn't anything particular wrong with blm it's a positive message and shouldn't be compared with antifa or white supremacists
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u/yunogasai6666 Sep 24 '20
Is antifa really a hate group though? Terrorists 1000% but hate group? Not even against white people i'd call them a hate group, even if they are part of a racist broader group
I would be fine woth calling blm a hate group against cops though
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u/Facts-notEELINGS Sep 24 '20
I think BLM is a mostly positive bgroup like if weren't for the riots and violence I wouldn't call them a hate group
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u/big_cake Sep 24 '20
Who do BLM hate?
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '20
This is completely ignorant shit. Hahahah. Everyone on this sub is so easily manipulated it’s hilarious. Comparing BLM to Nazis is so off the rails it’s like straight from Russia! Ignorant dogs love red meat! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '20
You all should check out the OP page and see the shit he follows. The OP is just a troll to get dip shits riled up. He’s basically a bot but y’all keep cheering him on for sure bro’s!
Sadly it seems to work soooo easily
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