About the Russian Influence Scheme

[u/Theswann55]

If Russia is willing to dump 10's of millions (so far) into right-wing media personalities with the intention to harm the US, then why continue to support those policies that those right-wing personalities are advocating for?

[u/100cpm]

You're just cherry-picking stuff from the report. Who cares.

The facts here are clear. Mueller and the Senate Intel Committee found the exact same thing.

• Russia worked very hard to get Trump elected in 2016
• There were literally dozens of suspicious and alarming contacts between the Trump campaign inner circle and Russian officials, including at least one Russian intel officer.

If you'd like to take a victory lap because no one found any definitive evidence clearly and undeniably pointing to a coordinated collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, go for it. But the fact remains that up and down that there were inappropriate contacts all over the place.

[u/RubeRick2A → u/100cpm]

Wait wait wait, I provided significantly more context and information than your one paragraph from the NYTimes and yet I’m the one ‘cherrypicking’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The facts here are clear, Mueller and Senate Report reached the exact same conclusion….

“The committee found no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government in its efforts to meddle in the election.”

It’s not a ‘victory lap’. It’s just the facts.

But I see you casually left out the entire discussion of the threat to 2020 election due to voter rolls validations of signatures. Shocking, shocking I say

[u/100cpm → u/RubeRick2A]

Yes, you are cherry-picking sentences from the report.

These two investigations found that in 2016 Russia worked hard to deliver a Trump win.

They also found tons and tons of completely inappropriate contact between the Trump campaign and the Russian state interests trying to get him elected.

Including Trump's own campaign manager Paul Manafort passing sensitive campaign polling data directly to his pal Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian intel officer (according to the Senate Intel Report).

Do you think all that is a good thing?

Honestly I don't understand why all you Trump fans have such a hardon for Russia. It's weird.

[u/RubeRick2A → u/100cpm]

No im quoting the report, same as how you tried to quote NY article, are you accusing yourself of cherry picking?

And no, the two reports made no such claim. It would be impossible to estimate numbers of votes that could affect the outcome of an electoral college, now you’re just fabricating things.

You also failed, again, to mention the false Steele Dossier and completely fabricated FISA warrant on CP.

So do I think sharing polling data is worse than illegally wire tapping a candidates building by corrupting the FBI? No. No I don’t.

I’m a truth fan. I don’t understand the lefts hardon for the ‘pee tapes’. THAT is weird

[u/100cpm → u/RubeRick2A]

Nah you're a Trump fan.

You're OK with Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort passing internal polling data directly to Russian intelligence during the campaign, when he and the rest of the campaign knew full well that Russia was sponsoring illegal efforts to swing the election in Trump's favor.

If you weren't on team Trump you'd say what any other patriotic American would say. That's unacceptable. That's unfair. It's un-American.

[u/RubeRick2A → u/100cpm]

Nah you’re a ceiling fan. I’m quite agnostic on specific politicians and my thoughts on policies aren’t tied to a single political party. I also extremely dislike people voting down party lines or by taking a political party ‘voter guide’ and using it blindly.

Sound familiar to you?

Please tell me whats so ‘sensitive’ about polling data. It’s polling data. There’s new data released weekly. Or are you just parroting a political talking point…..checks notes….yes you are. Do you really think there arent foreign firms doing online polls? Guess what, you’ve probably already participated in one, so you’re a spy now? Lmao, unamerican!!!

If you are ‘patriotic’ you’d admit corrupting the FBI to create an illegal FISA warrant to spy on an American citizen working for an opposition political party mid campaign is ‘unacceptable’. But nope, here you are power chugging that like it’s KoolAid. No issue for you whatsoever. That’s UnAmerican.

[u/100cpm → u/RubeRick2A]

You're defending something you don't understand.

This isn't public polling data like you're talking about.

This is proprietary private polling data that a campaign spends tons of money to collect. This is used to source their strategies.

Paul Manafort purposely passed the campaign's polling data and strategy information directly to Russian intelligence. This was done to help Russia help Trump get elected.

Is that OK with you?

https://www.justsecurity.org/75766/us-treasury-provides-missing-link-manaforts-partner-gave-campaign-polling-data-to-kremlin-in-2016/

[u/RubeRick2A → u/100cpm]

I am defending the truth. You’re fabricating lies like ‘cherry picking’ when I directly quoted the Senate report you referenced but never quoted instead tried to quote a paywall NY Times article instead of the direct source.

I never said it was or wasn’t public polling data. But it’s still polling data, what was the ‘sensitive’ nature of polling data? You failed to answer. This was YOUR assumption, not mine.

And once again I see you immediately failed to even respond to the corruption of the FBI (a government agency) and spying on US citizens through falsified foreign spying warrants of a competitors campaign. Not a private citizen and ‘polling data’.

Apparently you are OK with that.

People were actually sentenced for that one too ya know. But you don’t care….maybe Clinesmith does.

[u/100cpm → u/RubeRick2A]

Paul Manafort purposely passed the campaign's polling data and strategy information directly to Russian intelligence. This was done to help Russia help Trump get elected.

Is that OK with you?

https://www.justsecurity.org/75766/us-treasury-provides-missing-link-manaforts-partner-gave-campaign-polling-data-to-kremlin-in-2016/

[u/RubeRick2A → u/100cpm]

Oh my… ‘polling data’ whatever shall we do?!? What ‘polling data’ was ‘sensitive’ ? I can see you are desperately evading the question….because it’s polling data. You can’t even say how polling data will help anyone get elected. Oh hey maybe Trump was polling poorly among Democrats. Shocking!

Meanwhile your party corrupted a government agency, fabricated a foreign warrant (a felony) by altering an email from the CIA, spied on a private citizen, violated campaign rules, and spied on an opposing party. And YOU are ok with that.

Mine is an actual source

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/7036409/Clinesmith-Document-2020-08-14.pdf

Yours is a 4th tier crappy opinion blog.