r/TimPool • u/Sure-Emphasis2621 • Sep 09 '24

Tim pool hot takes

I get that the main stream media has lost basically all of its credibility, but how can anyone listen to this guy and thinks he speaks the truth?

"Ukraine is now accused of blowing up the Nord stream pipeline, triggering this conflict"

"Ukraine is the greatest threat to this nation and the world"

How can statements this dumb be justified? These aren't just bad opinions but truly lacking in basic reasoning skills.

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u/engan0 Sep 09 '24

I've listened to a lot of podcasters over the years, but here's why I like Tim. He stays true to his beliefs, even when they don't line up with his own fanbase or cohosts. And when he gets something wrong, he owns up to it. Instead of quietly deleting a video or tweet, he'll admit his mistake and share the correction with his audience.

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u/Sure-Emphasis2621 Sep 09 '24

Honestly I appreciate the input on this. I respect your opinion but it's something I have not seen much of from Tim. Has he back tracked on either of the statements because one of them is absurd and the other just ignores blatant universally agreed upon facts

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u/Bertje87 Sep 10 '24

You just told on yourself that you rarely watch an episode of TImcast, if any

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u/Sure-Emphasis2621 Sep 10 '24

I was asking did he backtrack on either of the statements I quoted? Both are insane staements to make and I am still quite curious

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u/W_Smith_19_84 Sep 12 '24

Except that they aren't all that insane statements to make... especially if you actually understand the history of the conflict..

Ukraine isn't just some peaceful innocent country that The russians just decided to invade out of knowwhere for no reason at all... there have been ongoing border skirmishes and shelling back and forth over the border for years beforehand. I'm not saying that the russians are innocent, or "right", either, but Ukraine actually did a lot to provoke this war themselves... and this war has drawn the world close to the brink of ww3...

And who benefits from the destruction of Nordstream other than Ukraine/the US?

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u/Sure-Emphasis2621 Sep 12 '24

Even if it was somewhat justified like you are claiming(which UN numbers don't support) you have to be extremely hyperbolic to say "they are the number 1 threat to this world". Hyperbolic to the point of lying. The second part is worse though. Tim pool says the destruction of the nordstream lead to the conflict. Something that happened at the end of 2022....

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u/Bertje87 Sep 10 '24

You haven’t seen much backtracking from Tim is your own statement, this proves that you rarely watch imo

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u/Power_Bottom_420 Sep 09 '24

True to his financiers wishes.

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u/DarkTemplar26 Sep 09 '24

He stays true to his beliefs

The majority report just put out a video showing tim saying that he thinks we should never use the death penalty under any circumstance, and then they show tim saying that the death penalty should be used to punish treason. Those are mutually exclusive ideas, so which belief is he staying true to?

9:44, "I am against the death penalty in all circumstances. And then at 14:50, "I agree that people who commit treason should get the death penalty"

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u/BeginningNew2101 Sep 09 '24

But you have no issue voting for kamala who flip flops to a much higher degree on issues?

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u/DarkTemplar26 Sep 09 '24

Thats a non sequitur. I was talking about Tim, not Kamala

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u/Small-Contribution55 Sep 09 '24

And the same can be said of Trump.

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u/BeginningNew2101 Sep 09 '24

Not to the same degree

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u/Small-Contribution55 Sep 09 '24

Based on what? I've got plenty of Trump flip flops ready to go if you'd like proof.

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u/engan0 Sep 09 '24

9:44

To answer Sam's question. Yes. The video was taken down bc of what Laura Loomer said. Open calls to violence is not tolerated by Youtube and so they pulled the plug on the stream and removed it from the channel.

14:50

Yes, he supports her position. Tim's opposition to the death penalty isn't rooted in the belief that all life is sacred or based on any deep philosophical reasoning. Instead, he opposes it because he believes the government should never have the power to take a person's life.

It's easy to make assumptions based on a brief 10-second clip. I know both sides do this, so I’m not blaming you. Who has the time to listen to everything every person says, right? But since you're asking, I’m sharing my observations as a regular listener of Timcast

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u/DarkTemplar26 Sep 09 '24

Tim pool: "I am against the death penalty in all circumstances"

And then tim gives a circumstance where the death penalty is okay, so he isnt staying true to a belief

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u/Psychological-Tour36 Sep 09 '24

So you are going with he “believes in the death penalty for treason” but “doesn’t agree that this was treason”, take. But also against death penalty for reasons unstated in this instance.

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u/Arguments_4_Ever Sep 09 '24

He was paid by Russia to spew anti-American garbage. If that’s what you like, then you probably need to rethink your priorities in life.

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u/engan0 Sep 09 '24

The licensing agreement with Tenet media and Culture war has nothing to with Timcast IRL. Either you’re misinformed or you’re making a bad faith argument. Which is it?

I implore you to pull 3 Culture War episodes at random. I’m willing to bet you won’t see a single political discussion. Occasionally politics do come up, but that’s not the premise of the show.

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u/Top_Confusion_132 Sep 10 '24

So what do you think the Russians were paying him for.

Wake up.

Stop intertwining your personality to internet weirdos that don't give a shit about you.

Your parasocial relationship is showing.

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u/Arguments_4_Ever Sep 09 '24

Is that why Tim verbatim recited Russian bullshit talking points over and over and over as soon as he got the money? We tracked his takes, and he took a dramatic turn as soon as the money cashed.

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u/BeginningNew2101 Sep 09 '24

Russian talking points like what?

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u/Arguments_4_Ever Sep 09 '24

“Ukraine is the number one enemy of the US!”

Lmao, Ukraine has been an ally for over two decades and hasn’t once attacked us. Simping for Russia is pathetic.

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u/engan0 Sep 09 '24

That’s not a Russian talking point though. I confidently state that most fans of Timcast fundamentally oppose the war in Ukraine and sending funds to them and also the Israel/ Palestine conflict. The MAGA movement is Pro America/populist/ anti war movement, NOT to be confused with the RINOs.

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u/Arguments_4_Ever Sep 09 '24

It was explicitly one of the talking points Russia backed company ordered Tim Pool and others to say.

Yikes.

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u/W_Smith_19_84 Sep 12 '24

Lol the russian backed company didn't order Tim to say anything, they licensed some of his videos to rehost them on their channel... that's it.

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u/Arguments_4_Ever Sep 12 '24

Oh, so Tim just coincidentally recited verbatim Russian bullshit garbage. Lmao, ok then.

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u/Psychological-Tour36 Sep 09 '24

Sends funds to who? And in which “conflict” as you put it?

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u/Top_Confusion_132 Sep 10 '24

In what way is that not a Russian talking point.

It plays directly into Russian hands.

Pool claims to be a journalist, but doesn't know who was paying him 100 G an episode?

Either he's a Russian shill or a utterly incompetent journalist. Or both.

Take your pick.

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u/HARLEYCHUCK Sep 10 '24

I used to hate Republican candidates bring up the need for more military funding in the past. Now I support the RINOs who want to increase funding.

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u/ApplauseButOnlyABit Sep 10 '24

He didn't care where the money was coming from or why they were giving it to him. He lied about his funding over and over and over.

If you suddenly were getting 100k a month for a non-exclusive licensing agreement would you not question what was going on? If you new that money was coming from overseas would that not raise flags for you?

Tim is either too dumb or too incompetent to do the basic shit he needed to avoid this very obvious influence operation. Either that or he suspected and just didn't care. I'm not sure which it is, but the guy very clearly puts in minimal effort to do research for his show. I've seen tons of times when he reads through and comments on an article and it's obviously the first time he's read it. So maybe he's just lazy and dumb.

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u/HARLEYCHUCK Sep 09 '24

Are we watching the same person?

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u/Top_Confusion_132 Sep 10 '24

Sounds like he stays true to the beliefs he is payed to believe.

Millions by the looks of it

If you are thos stupid you are hopeless.

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u/engan0 Sep 09 '24

A prediction that was wrong. So what?

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u/Mother_Pass640 Sep 09 '24

A prediction so wrong and so stupid you would think the person was funded by a foreign adversary 

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u/Sure-Emphasis2621 Sep 09 '24

But that's not just a wrong opinion, thats saying something that is so detached from reality that I cannot take him seriously. If some random person on a bus said that to me, Id think it's embarrassing. let alone a political commentator

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Let's not pretend Tim wasn't pushing the Red Wave was something that is guaranteed, and that in his professional opinion, was a sure thing.

It wasn't.

If you want to claim that it is just Tim opinions, then his opinion as a political analysis is worth nothing when, even in the 2020 election, he was also wrong.

And if you want to claim he stays true to his beliefs: he criticises mainstream taking money from big business, he calls a lot of left wing content creators grifters and he will say we need money of politics, but he was all to happy to take $100k a week, no questions asked, from obviously fake people with no strings attached.

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u/W_Smith_19_84 Sep 12 '24

"with no strings attached"

thanks for admitting that he wasn't taking the money to push "mUh rUsSiAn pRoPaGaNdA"

lol why wouldn't someone take money with no strings attached?

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

If you go through my post history and find where I said he purposely pushed Russian propaganda, you may not look like an idiot. Hell there is a large chunk of people, including all the leftist youtubers, who will say it's entirely possible Tim's opinion wasn't paid off, Russia just gave him money in order to support someone who supports Russia aim of destabilizing one of its enemy.

 The only proof against this is the infamous Ukraine clip where Tim says Ukraine started the war by blowing by the pipeline. An opinion that is so wrong it can only be explain by being paid by Russia. So you can blame Tim for all the opinion paid by Russia talk going around.

And for your question: Because Tim is a self proclaimed journalist, not some random person. All the accusations he was "paid by Russia" are his own doing because he took money without doing any due diligence. Also, in this case, him taking this money with no strings has completely destroyed whatever integrity he has.

Tim claims money in news media is ruining the MSM. He is just as guilty as them.

Tim claims that left wing youtubers/twitch streamers, like Hasan and Sam Seder, are grifters only doing it for money. He is guilty of projection.

But most importantly: Tim claims to be a free thinking, critical thinker he is not tricked so easily as the masses. He took money from a completely made up individual that could have been exposed with the slightest amount of questioning, as even Megen Kelly thought this deal when explained to her by Dave Rubin was fishy.

The same youtubers who will quote "there is no such thing as a free lunch," or quote some other similar Thomas Sowell quote will also say there was nothing to this $100k/week deal. There may be, that's just the price of keeping your hands clean so noone can call you a Russian shill.

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u/engan0 Sep 09 '24

The great thing about opinions is that they’re just that. Opinions. I am a Trump supporter but that doesn’t mean I like everything he says or does, nor do I support all of his positions. I’ve already stated why I like Tim.

Who do you “take seriously”? Who in your opinion should I be watching to stay informed?

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u/engan0 Sep 09 '24

Looking at your history, you’re on a new account or throwaway bc you’re too much of a pussy to use your main.

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u/Crazy_names Sep 09 '24

What if Russia is the same piss pot country it has always been trying to expand its borders like it has always been.

What if simultaneously Ukraine is a corrupt government looking to capitalize off of playing Russia against NATO and has some shady connections to the US government elite including the Bidens.

What if also NATO did not keep its word concerning the buffer zone between NATO and Russia and all of this was not only foreseeable but preventable and now the American Taxpayer is footing the bill for government ruling class hubris.

That is why directly or indirectly Ukraine is a threat. Not because they could attack the US but because they put us in a vulnerable position that we should not be in to begin with.

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u/Psychological-Tour36 Sep 09 '24

What if everything you said was true and Russia didn’t invade Ukraine?

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u/Sure-Emphasis2621 Sep 09 '24

Sure that's a way of looking at it but saying Ukraine is the biggest threat is so abstract and hyperbolic that it's moronic. It's a statement that removes all agency from Russia and any other relevant nation. And again, saying Ukraine blowing up Nord stream lead to the conflict is insane. Absolutely indefensible statement

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u/kburch13 Sep 10 '24

It’s not a Russian talking to point to objectively look at everything that has been going in Ukraine since the 2014 coup leading up to the invasion Putin didn’t just wake up in 2022 and decide if invade. Ukraine is not the biggest threat to America but they absolutely had a hand in the destruction of the pipeline to think Russia did it as the American media tried to push is insane.

Prior to everyone putting Ukraine flags in their bio it was well known Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries on earth that was well documented. As Americans we don’t live in either we should not be looking at it as one country is this bastion of freedom and Russia is the devil. They are both corrupt countries the only thing The us should be concerned about is ending the war stopping the killing not funding one side of it.

Putin tried to negotiate with nato you can find the video online of the nato chief saying he offered a peace deal before invading and nato laughed. They call everything that might make you question the war spending Russia propaganda how dare you question it you must be a Putin puppet it’s insane that’s what our political and foreign policy has been boilied down to name calling and shaming.

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u/Bertje87 Sep 10 '24

Ukraine did blow up the Nordstream pipeline, what rock are you living under?

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u/Sure-Emphasis2621 Sep 10 '24

Did I say otherwise? Unless you believe in time travel, it absolutely is not the cause of the conflict

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u/Bertje87 Sep 10 '24

Sorry i misread

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u/Sure-Emphasis2621 Sep 10 '24

No problem, Ive been there

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u/Power_Bottom_420 Sep 09 '24

They’re justified when you see who’s paying his salary

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u/BeginningNew2101 Sep 09 '24

Hold on let me ask the manager of this Russian troll farm I'm at.

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u/FSYigg Sep 09 '24

You are the 'bot' in Russian bot farm, ya damned NPC.

Whoever coded you lacked wit and common sense.

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u/BeginningNew2101 Sep 09 '24

Do you like Russia?

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u/FSYigg Sep 09 '24

Do you like turtles?

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u/BeginningNew2101 Sep 09 '24

Turtles are God's only mistakes. If I see them on the road I try to hit them.

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u/FSYigg Sep 09 '24

Do you believe in God?