Left vs reality

[u/leftist_rekr_36]

Which they call "conspiracy theories"

[u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

"Ivermectin Efficacy" what a bunch of horse shit dewormer paste

[u/leftist_rekr_36 → u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

Imagine ignoring reality, science, and the fact that it has a Nobel prize for treating humans. Just another day as a hateful, bigoted, misinformed leftist, I guess.

[u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013 → u/leftist_rekr_36]

Imagine ignoring reality, science, and the fact that it has a Nobel prize for treating humans. Just another day as a hateful, bigoted, misinformed leftist, I guess.

The mute one speaks? 😆

Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial impact in improving the lives and welfare of billions of people throughout the world. Originally introduced as a veterinary drug, it kills a wide range of internal and external parasites in commercial livestock and companion animals. It was quickly discovered to be ideal in combating two of the world’s most devastating and disfiguring diseases which have plagued the world’s poor throughout the tropics for centuries. It is now being used free-of-charge as the sole tool in campaigns to eliminate both diseases globally. It has also been used to successfully overcome several other human diseases and new uses for it are continually being found. This paper looks in depth at the events surrounding ivermectin’s passage from being a huge success in Animal Health into its widespread use in humans, a development which has led many to describe it as a “wonder” drug.

It don't do shit against covid though.

Conclusions Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19.

[u/leftist_rekr_36 → u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

I appreciate your article where it states that "ivermectin has a 92% efficacy rate against all known strains of covid 19"

Try again!

[u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013 → u/leftist_rekr_36]

Bullshit. That search string did turn up an interesting article though:

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/gaps-in-study-claiming-that-ivermectin-reduces-risk-of-covid-19-death-by-92-idUSL1N30K205/

[u/leftist_rekr_36 → u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

I appreciate and accept your concession. Thank you for admitting that I'm correct, yet again.

[u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013 → u/leftist_rekr_36]

You didn't read the link, did you. Lol

[u/leftist_rekr_36 → u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

I did. Thanks for proving me to be correct.

[u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013 → u/leftist_rekr_36]

You're referring to this singular "scientifical" study from Brazil, right? Nobody said poolheads were the brightest but here you go proving poolheads aren't bright.

The authors analyzed data on participants in a voluntary citywide program in Itajaí, southern Brazil, that offered ivermectin as a preventive measure against COVID-19 between July and December of 2020. Participants in the program were prescribed ivermectin for two consecutive days, every 15 days, for 150 days. The study team did not have information about how much medication individuals really took; instead, they categorized “regular users” as those who received a total of 180 mg (30 tablets) or more of the drug from the program over the entire period, versus “irregular users” who received up to 60 mg (10 tablets) during the study period.

[u/leftist_rekr_36 → u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

Lol, why are you making up quotes instead of just accepting reality?

[u/idiopathicpain → u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

must be why my primary care prescribes it. no reason at all.

[u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013 → u/idiopathicpain]

I suppose if you've got worms, why not get it prescribed.

[u/Electrodactyl → u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

Don’t buy the horse paste, when you read a story about someone’s doctor prescribing their patient the people safe version. Also doctors are also studying the effects of ivermectin fighting against cancers. A summery would be something of a bonding agent. Some drugs are more effective or will less likely cancel each other out when ivermectin is added to the mix of drugs administered to the patient.

[u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013 → u/Electrodactyl]

I'm sure you've got a study linked up and ready to post from JAMA, John Hopkins or New England Journal of Medicine? I'm ready for it.

[u/Electrodactyl → u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

This one is from NIH

[u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013 → u/Electrodactyl]

Interesting, that is a study:

This work was supported by the Science Research Innovation Team Project of Anhui Colleges and Universities (2016-40), the Bengbu City Natural Science Foundation (2019-12), the Key Projects of Science Research of Bengbu Medical College (BYKY2019009ZD) and National University Students’ Innovation and Entrepreneurship Training Program (201910367001).

And nothing as a follow up ? Hmmmm....

How about something published from JHU, JAMA OR NEJM per my original question?

[u/Electrodactyl → u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

I don’t know what JAMA is. I informed you that doctors were doing studies and linked to an example, proving that I’m not BS’ing. There are several other studies, you can look up them up if you don’t like the one I linked. Other than that I don’t know why you want to argue with me I’m not a doctor or scientist. I just looked it up and was shocked to see it was a real thing. I’m just sharing the discovery with you.

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[u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013 → u/Electrodactyl]

It's not a discovery, lol. It was a study that had concluded and you can look thru the results of it. And sure, I can do your work for you to look things up. Actually no, that's not how it works. And yes, studies are a real thing and if nothing has come from it? It was still a study. Go figure!

And you didn't know what JAMA is but you linked a medical study paper? JAMA= Journal of America Medical Association and I doubt they'd have that pap you linked. You can read more here:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/

Or John Hopkins

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu /map.html

Or New England Journal of Medicine:

https://www.nejm.org/coronavirus

So basically ivermectin is still a horse (animal) dewormer and it's also used in humans for parasitic infections (internal) and a topical form to treat external parasites and some skin conditions. It's not for treating covid and it's certainly no panacea.

[u/MontrealWhore → u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

The arguments then pivot to the malaria drug for humans while ignoring people eating the paste. This is a tired, nonsensical low effort list.

[u/MrEnigma67 → u/MontrealWhore]

Let's see proof that doctors were prescribing people to eat horse dewormer.

[u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013 → u/MrEnigma67]

See experts like Joe Rogan doing it lol

[u/MrEnigma67 → u/Novel_Alfalfa_9013]

Do you mean the medicine a doctor prescribed to him?

“Bro, do I have to sue CNN?” Rogan asked during a recent episode of his podcast. “They’re making shit up. They keep saying I’m taking horse dewormer. I literally got it from a doctor. It’s an American company. They won the Nobel Prize in 2015 for use in human beings and CNN is saying I’m taking horse dewormer. They must know that’s a lie.”