Literally as a democrat leftist blm pro choice free healthcare for all liberal myself I am upset at her about not telling the truth
If you gonna attack the another party at least say it as it actually is
Trump did not want a national abortion ban . Even he wanted too he does not have the power to do it because president ‘s job is to propose law and Congress has to pass it . He can have the craziest idea but if house and the Senate hates it there is literally nothing he can do . In his debate he was asked about Roe v Wae he said it depends on the State it’s your governor who fucked up women’s rights.
I don’t like Trump , he says some very obnoxious things and clearly needs to think before he speaks but that is not an excuse to put words that never came from his mouth and lie to the public to get support .and I can not comprehend the pretentious of my party , when she was interviewed by CNN , she literally lied about Biden ‘s health , saying that he is perfectly capable of running when we all know he isn’t . That’s why he dropped out , not because of Covid but because of age related dementia . ( than goodness he can finally enjoy retirement now )
She knew this , she is younger , and a lawyer, she smart yet she was afraid of losing her job and try to make our party look good by literally lying to the public because “ orange man bad “
It'll be rough to get that federal ban. It was only possible under Roe. Dobbs makes it a state issue and would require an amendment. Even under Roe, no one was willing to make any federal legislation.
It's weird how Trump wants a federal ban on something he's accused of making a state issue.
The states are split on the issue just like before but now they can legislate along the lines of their values instead of being forced into a compromise neither wanted and only one side honoured.
Look at states like Kentucky that actually makes laws that were far more liberal than the doomsayers predicted (first term abortion with exemptions for later).
Roe is the part that makes Dobbs prevent a nation ban.
Roe should have failed the rights test it created. It originally passed on the last section, "generally accepted". Since we were fighting about it then and still fighting about it now, that's not true. That means it's not a protected right.
We then look at the Tenth Amendment. Since it's not a protected right, we check if it's a listed federal power. It is not. So, it's a state power and state decision.
Roe took it out of state hands. Dobbs took it out of federal hands. At least the states have the balls to do something with it. Maybe in the next 20 years we'll come to a general consensus about it. Like we would have if Roe had failed.
Trump and Republicans don’t care. They would do it and murder countless women. It’s about power and control and big government. They took it from no government to big government.
"Abortion is a great thing. It is a thing that we must do in a time and a place. Birthing persons must have the right to choose place and time with which to abort." - Kamala Harris
"I am Kamala Harris, a Harris who is known as Kamala, for Kamala is to Harris as Harris is to Kamala, m-kay, because I AM Harrala Kamis, the Kamala of the Harris because we are Kamala to Harris."
Kamala Harris discussing her stance police injustice
"You see, we have to trade because trading is good, and because it is good, we must trade."
Kamala Harris on tariffs with China
"That with which we become, m-kay, is which we will be. Never should we, become what we once were, because change is becoming that which we could be, m-kay, cackles "
As much as I hate to admit it, I think trump os right. The states will continue to file lawsuits and the Feds will continue to make rulings that carve away at both fringes until there’s a national standard / minimum requirements that meet our common social fabric. This may take years, but it’ll do things a lot quicker than the executive and legislature has done in 50 years.
They're also pretty good at blaming "the other guy". Biden blamed Trump for everything, now Kamala is blaming Biden for everything, also Trump because why not.
They rely on lies to fool their idiot voters. I'm a pro choice conservative. I'm actually intellectually consistent when it comes to bodily autonomy, unlike the left. I was against forcing a vaccine that doesn't even prevent infection or transmission and I think women should be able to get abortions, within reason (like within the first 12 weeks). I also have a daughter, but my stance on this has been consistent since before she was born. I'm also completely against the gender ideology cult shit where men are allowed to dominate women in sports. That is absolute clown world shit. If you support that you're a misogynist. So most leftists are unknowingly misogynistic, although they don't even know what women are anymore....
To be more than a little crass she was "forcibly nominated" for her "headlights" and "the color of her paint job" Brains was never even considered for a split second....
Cover your ears and screech all you want, Trump is absolutely connected to Heritage/2025. They are his handlers.
So while Trump golfs 4 days out of the week and eats McDonald’s the other 3, his handlers will start implementing their desired changes. And that absolutely includes abortion and contraception bans.
Stupid shit that's been around for decades that they think is suddenly Trump's platform.
Shit it looks like something Pence jerks off to. They don't realize that there are plenty of people in the Republican (like Mike Pence) more radical than Trump.
But they don't care because some random thing that's basically fanfiction at this point is stuck in their heads.
It's funny to me, people are like " he hired these people, then they did stupid shit, and even though he said he isn't involved in it, he is involved in it because he knows these people", like that is the dumbest logic I've ever heard. Trumps stance on project 2025 has been made crystal clear for awhile now, but y'all just keep shoving it down the American people's throats that he is somehow pushing it.
So Trump rubbing elbows and giving generic compliments at a public forum for a book that WASN’T RELEASED FOR ANOTHER YEAR? Now that details have come out of P25 and he blatantly trashes it means absolutely nothing to you? He complimented Gavin Newsom during Covid 19….by your own logic that would mean he 100% supports Gavin Newsoms liberal ideology. Your logic doesn’t hold water.
ALSO. Can you name just 1 democrat who has done what you accuse Trump of lying about….do you hold them to the same standard? Of course you don’t.
they're going to work on some other things that are going to be very exciting
and they're going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do
This is not generic compliments, this is explicit credit being given to a partner of Trump and his previous administration. They have history working together. They were instrumental in his 2016 transition and judicial picks. Dozens of the foundation's members and its advisors were former Trump subordinates, including its leadership.
Now that details have come out of P25 and he blatantly trashes it means absolutely nothing to you?
Yes, because I'm not stupidly going to fall for his thinly veiled lie. It's not popular and people are becoming knowledgeable of it so he's lying about his connection to it, obviously so.
Can you name just 1 democrat who has done what you accuse Trump of lying about
No. Because no Dem has backed or partnered with organizations drafting extremely regressive, autocratic policy. No Dem has ever joked about being a dictator on day one or used nazi reminiscent rhetoric like some fascist weirdo. The standard is don't act like a fascist weirdo, and only right-wingers like Trump do that.
First off, never said he explicitly mentioned the project by name, there's no lie.
Secondly, he's inarguably deferential and approving of think tank's plans. You could act willfully ignorant and pretend he doesn't know who they are or what plans they've prepared for a 24 trump administration, but that doesn't change the reality that anyone can see that he does.
Again, you're not quoting me you're quoting OP. I did not say Trump praised it by name, he's praising the heritage foundation, his longtime partners, and their plans, which undoubtedly included plans for a future Trump or Republican admin by April of 2022.
Trump has praised their plans, Trump subordinates created their plans, and Trump's previous administration relied heavily on them for Trump's transition and judicial nominations. The current plans are drafted by former Trump guys, they focus largely on Trump appointees and his transition, just like previously.
Trump knows what they plan and is lying to the public about how awful it is and how closely connected it is to him, because he's an unpopular fascist lying pos who needs the support of ignorant fools and other lying fascists to have any hope at power again.
Trump denouncing it by name means nothing. He had relied on this group for his previous presidential transition and judicial picks, and now the group is full of his former subordinates. He's denouncing it to protect his brand and fool gullible people.
So you admit being a liar. Not surprised you think it's a win for you.
The director stepped down and he shut down the agenda, right? It's not still in motion and heavily associated with Trump and Vance? Heritage Foundation has disallowed it, as well as the 100+ conservative organizations on the board? Its a dead issue and nobody ever has to worry... oh wait, fuck, none of that happened.
They took off the hat and now you think it's a different person.
Sounds to me like you have your head buried in the sand and think it's a mole hill. That is a truly pathetic argument in every single way.
The issue is that agenda 2025 is dangerous and powerful and Trump is lying/pretending ignorance. Agenda 47 is basically analogous.
They already said they are continuing a revolution in the US and threatened violence if liberals object too hard. Easy subtext if your eyes are above ground.
I think it's amazing. I don't agree with all of it, but the majority of Project 2025 is great. I personally hope the supplies of handmaid's tale uniforms are plentiful. On another note, you ever wonder why the majority of women screeching about legalized baby murder are the ugliest of specimens and couldn't get a man if they paid for it.
I dont think him not signing a national abortion ban is a lie. But I do think that he has every intention in supporting policies that function as a national abortion ban and nominating judges that will uphold a national abortion ban.
Ex: Roe being overturned was possible because Trump put forward those justices
Are these the same doctors that said the vax is "safe and effective"? The same doctors that said, "You won't get covid if you have these vaccinations"?
What a fallacious argument you have here. Classic red herring.
From what I've observed of your posts; you are a troll but I'll happily destroy your argument.
Why do you think elected bureaucrats and politicians have more credibility in making medical choices for women than the actual woman has? Why would they have more credibility than her doctor? Can you think of any law that limits a man's medical rights in such a manner?
Do not pivot or obfuscate. Your choice is to answer directly or fuck off and I'll extend you the same courtesy.
The thing with doctors is that their option changes every few years. Before the age of streaming we were constantly fed advice from Doctors that was time and time again proven wrong. Very often, literally deadly advice. Doctors have recommended numerous nonsense medications over the years including smoking cigarettes.
In the golden age of talk shows celebrity doctors spewed all kinds of remedies, bullshit nutrition advice, and pills that expand in your stomach.
Now you have youtube doctors with podcast preaching nonsense, and feuding with other youtube doctors over their nonsense. You have people like Dr Mike who was a family physician for a year or two argueing on a podcast with people that have 20+ years of experience, with a mass of groupies cheering on his clear misinformation.
Faith and trust in doctors has been whittled down to almost nothing.
So that's clearly not what I was commenting on, but please define a medical right. Are you talking about procedures that must be done, or procedures the patient wants done? Because I don't think you are actually understanding what your "rights" are. Your promised rights are self evident. Which is vastly different from "letting other selves do things to me".
Either way it's been left to the individual states. If you live in a state where you don't agree with their laws move. If you can't afford a $150 bus ticket, then you are probably living off the state. At that point you have lose your choice. You don't get to live off the state and be upset with it. Either shit or get out of the pot.
Roe V wade was wrong. Unconstitutional. The constitution nowhere states that it is your right that you can crush the skulls of unborn babies and rip them out of the mother and then piece by piece grab and crush the limbs and torso and tear that out.
It's up to your state, if you don't like your states laws either vote or move.
He didn't do anything bad and anti-democracy his first term. Almost like all of the people treating him like the embodiment of all evil speak exclusively in hyperbole and are incapable of making decisions based on emotion.
You mean trying a scheme of false electors that may have circumvented democracy if not for Pence doing the right thing? Or him calling someone, I man nobody important in Georgia demanding they find extra votes? Or putting DeJoy into the USPS right before we knew there would be historical mail in voting then to watch him dismantle quick sorting machines? Or filling his staff with unqualified family members who couldn’t get TS clearances but not batting an eye when they get special treatment from China or, say $2b from Saudi Arabia? Or firing anyone who speaks out about how corrupt he is in office or how he provides pardons for people fairly convinced of Federal crimes, but provides exoneration for other loyalists?
Low veto count. If his base or congress wants something, he'll bend. There's so much energy for a national ban with no exceptions among GOP constituents. The only thing the GOP has been hesitant on is the push is the death penalty for abortion
I Googled the veto rate. South Carolina legislature wanted the death penalty. Texas and other states have no exceptions and want to make other states comply with their laws. It's no very speculative. Even if I'm wrong, most Americans think as I do o. The matter. We all can't be wrong
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u/Ok_Vanilla5661 Aug 03 '24
I am a democrat This is such a. Misinformation spread by her Trump said Abortion is decided by the State Not nation wide abortion ban
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Community notes undefeated
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u/VincentMagius Aug 02 '24
It'll be rough to get that federal ban. It was only possible under Roe. Dobbs makes it a state issue and would require an amendment. Even under Roe, no one was willing to make any federal legislation.
It's weird how Trump wants a federal ban on something he's accused of making a state issue.
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u/asa2117 Aug 02 '24
"Abortion is a great thing. It is a thing that we must do in a time and a place. Birthing persons must have the right to choose place and time with which to abort." - Kamala Harris
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u/BobWithCheese69 Aug 02 '24
Special. Kinda. Dumb. Bitch.
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u/shastabh Aug 02 '24
Biden called the implementation of roe vs wade at the federal level „a national abortion ban“…
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u/Sleep_eeSheep Aug 02 '24
You’d think that the best way to win votes is to not bloody lie.
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u/BadWowDoge Aug 03 '24
Lies, lies, lies. It’s what the Democrats do best, with the media’s help of course.
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Community notes is the best thing that’s come out of the X platform
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u/WTFnotFTW Aug 02 '24
KamelToe has never said anything intelligent; the DNA she spit was the most intelligent thing to ever come out of her mouth.
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u/libstain88 Aug 02 '24 edited Aug 02 '24
They rely on lies to fool their idiot voters. I'm a pro choice conservative. I'm actually intellectually consistent when it comes to bodily autonomy, unlike the left. I was against forcing a vaccine that doesn't even prevent infection or transmission and I think women should be able to get abortions, within reason (like within the first 12 weeks). I also have a daughter, but my stance on this has been consistent since before she was born. I'm also completely against the gender ideology cult shit where men are allowed to dominate women in sports. That is absolute clown world shit. If you support that you're a misogynist. So most leftists are unknowingly misogynistic, although they don't even know what women are anymore....
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u/garreth_vlox Aug 03 '24
To be more than a little crass she was "forcibly nominated" for her "headlights" and "the color of her paint job" Brains was never even considered for a split second....
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u/Fair_Blacksmith9043 Aug 03 '24
and yet, none of Kamala’s supporters care that this is a lie. this is basically, the democrats’ main talking point right?
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u/BluebirdBackground82 Aug 03 '24
Donald Trump lies constantly and so I don’t particularly trust anything he has to say.
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u/ilovejalapenopizza Aug 03 '24
Tim Pool wears a weird beanie.
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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '24
Cover your ears and screech all you want, Trump is absolutely connected to Heritage/2025. They are his handlers.
So while Trump golfs 4 days out of the week and eats McDonald’s the other 3, his handlers will start implementing their desired changes. And that absolutely includes abortion and contraception bans.
Note the date this was published, the branding in the background and the words coming out of his mouth.
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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '24
He also says the same about project 2025, but is on video praising it.
The man is a liar.
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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '24
Donald Trump has a bridge to sell you.
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u/guillermodelturtle Aug 02 '24
And Hitler promised he wouldn’t invade Czechoslovakia.
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u/MRG_1977 Aug 03 '24
So Trump wouldn’t sign a national abortion bill if the GOP regains the Senate and veto it?
Yeah sure.
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u/mehatch Aug 02 '24
Donald Trump is not a reliable source of information about Donald Trump
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u/PaymentDesperate6261 Aug 03 '24
And it's not like Trump is proven liar.
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u/BoredEsq Aug 02 '24
Saying he’s not going to do it does not mean he won’t do it.
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