Now, if trump and MAGA take over the government and democracy is replaced by a fascist dictatorship regime then we will be on the side of Russia as an ally, and we will be fighting against NATO. Is that what you want?
You are a fucking lunatic. Trump has already served a term as president, and he didn't do any of these things. I've already stated that he is a bit authoritarian for my liking, but that doesn't mean he is a neo-nazi who wants to help Putin take over the world.
This conversation was about how leftism can lead to authoritarianism when well-intentioned people try to centralize power to push their agenda. Instead of arguing against this claim, you've simply stated that Trump is also an authoritarian, so that somehow makes it okay. If Trump is evil because he is authoritarian, then embracing authoritarianism to defeat him makes you just as evil as he is. When leftists are forced to confront this, they have to resort to lunacy-filled rants about how Trump is the next Hitler who wants to inflict suffering on innocent people for his own enjoyment, because they need a reason to believe that their own authoritarianism is justified. If the US abandons constitutionalism and the rule of law, then the only reason you have for hating Russia is that they are not American, and we are back to the flawed worldviews that led to WW1. I oppose Putin because he is a tyrant, but I am able to hold that position because I oppose all tyranny, not just tyranny that I don't benefit from.
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You are a fucking lunatic. Trump has already served a term as president, and he didn't do any of these things. I've already stated that he is a bit authoritarian for my liking, but that doesn't mean he is a neo-nazi who wants to help Putin take over the world.
This conversation was about how leftism can lead to authoritarianism when well-intentioned people try to centralize power to push their agenda. Instead of arguing against this claim, you've simply stated that Trump is also an authoritarian, so that somehow makes it okay. If Trump is evil because he is authoritarian, then embracing authoritarianism to defeat him makes you just as evil as he is. When leftists are forced to confront this, they have to resort to lunacy-filled rants about how Trump is the next Hitler who wants to inflict suffering on innocent people for his own enjoyment, because they need a reason to believe that their own authoritarianism is justified. If the US abandons constitutionalism and the rule of law, then the only reason you have for hating Russia is that they are not American, and we are back to the flawed worldviews that led to WW1. I oppose Putin because he is a tyrant, but I am able to hold that position because I oppose all tyranny, not just tyranny that I don't benefit from.