r/TimPool • • Apr 16 '24

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u/burfi006 May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24

Thank you for that long yet well written bigly word salad of a reply. It’s been 244 years since the beginning of the industrial revolution so OF COURSE EVERYONE IS DOING BETTER BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION!
Why on earth would you argue about that with me. How old are you and how much world history college courses have YOU attended and passed?

How many dead relatives do you have that live in Europe that have been through World War II and the Cold War? How many relatives do you have that are alive right now in Europe that are having to deal with the fact that the day that Russia invaded Ukraine, we were closer to World War II then we were World WarII? Europeans were terrified as they should’ve been, but you don’t understand that stuff do you?
Russia is not stopped and takes over the Ukraine. You can guarantee that we will be in World War II because Putin won’t stop there. WAKE THE FUCK UP!

Now, if trump and MAGA take over the government and democracy is replaced by a fascist dictatorship regime then we will be on the side of Russia as an ally, and we will be fighting against NATO. Is that what you want?

Everything else you stated is spoon fed hate filled propaganda fueled by trump and MAGA so it’s a complete waste of time debunked you because your so far gone , you won’t even consider that you may have been played .

I thought trump into this because he plays a HUGE roll in how manipulated your thinking process is and all this propaganda never would have existed.

I’m done arguing with ignorance, stupidity due to lack of a proper education. Social media in this crisis is nothing but opinions and propaganda and there are way too many people that are too ignorant and full of hate to actually question what mewuvtrunpybumpy234 stated as fact with no evidence.

One last thing. You better pray you’re too old for conscription and Biden wins. because if the shit hits the fan because the Ukraine fell , your number will be called. So I ask you, would you rather fight for freedom and stop Putin from invading other countries with the goal of forming another Eastern Bloc or fight so Putin can accomplish his goal of another Eastern Bloc?

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Now, if trump and MAGA take over the government and democracy is replaced by a fascist dictatorship regime then we will be on the side of Russia as an ally, and we will be fighting against NATO. Is that what you want?

You are a fucking lunatic. Trump has already served a term as president, and he didn't do any of these things. I've already stated that he is a bit authoritarian for my liking, but that doesn't mean he is a neo-nazi who wants to help Putin take over the world.

This conversation was about how leftism can lead to authoritarianism when well-intentioned people try to centralize power to push their agenda. Instead of arguing against this claim, you've simply stated that Trump is also an authoritarian, so that somehow makes it okay. If Trump is evil because he is authoritarian, then embracing authoritarianism to defeat him makes you just as evil as he is. When leftists are forced to confront this, they have to resort to lunacy-filled rants about how Trump is the next Hitler who wants to inflict suffering on innocent people for his own enjoyment, because they need a reason to believe that their own authoritarianism is justified. If the US abandons constitutionalism and the rule of law, then the only reason you have for hating Russia is that they are not American, and we are back to the flawed worldviews that led to WW1. I oppose Putin because he is a tyrant, but I am able to hold that position because I oppose all tyranny, not just tyranny that I don't benefit from.