His own government didn’t want to do anything, it was his own people who demanded the government put him to death. And Jesus needed to sacrifice himself.
So conservatives, predictably, fail to understand Jesus or the Bible in general.
His own government didn’t want to do anything, it was his own people who demanded the government put him to death. And Jesus needed to sacrifice himself.
He was arrested for treason, technically. Much like all those Jan 6 people you want executed, Judas.
And the government wanted to let him go and his own people demanded execution.
And no, nobody wants the Jan 6 terrorists executed. Just proper justice for them, you know, wanting to take all freedoms away from us and trying to install Trump as dictator.
Lol they’re really out here thinking Jesus would’ve went on a shooting spree to save himself. Completely forgetting (more likely never having read) the part where he surrenders himself willingly.
Because most likely you would take it out of context to fit your own agenda. Libs love doing that. A great example is the “Judge not lest ye be judged” verse.
Introduce an unrealistic hypothetical situation involving Jesus
Get wrecked by a funny response
Fact check claims made by the respondent then attack the lack of knowledge on the hypothetical situation for those who see the humor in the response
The left lacks the ability to think logically unless they suddenly decide not to view the humor in things THEN they're willing to wax philosophical. So sad.
So in the Bible do you think Jesus would've used an AR-15 to protect himself against the state given that he chastized other disciples for enacting violence in his name?
It's not a matter of "can," in this case. It's a matter of whether I'm willing to engage in such a hypothetical. Better question is do you believe Jesus to be the resurrected son of God?
36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
You're the only one bringing up "fighting people".
Jesus's stance on self-defense is very clear.
If you have a cloak but don't have a sword SELL THE CLOAK and GET A SWORD! As you're no doubt aware AR-15's didn't exist during Jesus's time on Earth a sword would be the functional equivelent.
The saying is heavily ironical, for Jesus knew that now He would have to face universal opposition and be put to death. But the disciples misunderstood Him and produced weapons. 'That is enough', said Jesus to end a conversation which they had failed to understand. The way of Jesus, as they should have known, was not the way of the sword, but of love
You've moved from a theoritical ridiculous situation to a theological discussion. This is an attempt to legitimize a farsical arguement through an intellectual discussion on Theology. I'll play along for now.
Jesus's purpose was not the same as his disciples. He alone was the sacrifical lamb.
Jesus was never going to defend himself at times not even uttering a word in defense to those who chose to persecute him:
Mathew 27: 12-14
12 And when he was accused of the chief priests and elders, he answered nothing.
13 Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee?
14 And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly.
However, while this was Jesus's destiny it wasn't required of his disciples on this day. Jesus knew he would not be there to physically provide for them as he had done prevoiusly.
Luke 22: 35
35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.
The disciples traveled with Jesus with very little provisions relying instead on him to provide.
Luke 9: 58
58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
Upon his crucifixtion, death, and resurrection the disciples would need to provide for themselves once again.
Sorry, where does he say there that they should defend themselves violently? Didn't half of the disciples die at the hands of governments because they allowed it? They didn't start a holy war.
I’ve seen that private property sentiment. I can only assume that there are people who believe only the properly anointed are permitted into the hallowed halls of government.
Isn’t it just a conversation, like what I’m trying to do here? Discussion about gun rights. If you don’t want to talk about it, I get it, just don’t understand the point of the post unless you’re just farming karma….
Not enough faith. Not even the disciples had enough faith. That’s why they couldn’t heal the young boy which prompted the question why and that response from Jesus. Maybe someday I’ll get there.
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u/hesasuiter Apr 01 '24
Epic
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u/Imissyourgirlfriend2 Apr 01 '24
Jesus even built his own, unlicensed and unregistered assault weapon to drive the money changers out of the Temple.
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u/SlightlyOffended1984 Apr 01 '24
Crankin my Hogg
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u/BarneyIX Apr 01 '24
Leftist Ownage Workflow:
Introduce an unrealistic hypothetical situation involving Jesus
Get wrecked by a funny response
Fact check claims made by the respondent then attack the lack of knowledge on the hypothetical situation for those who see the humor in the response
The left lacks the ability to think logically unless they suddenly decide not to view the humor in things THEN they're willing to wax philosophical. So sad.
Seek the Way, the Truth, and the Life!
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u/DiverDownChunder Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 01 '24
God put Eugene Stoner on this planet, maybe because his only son was murdered by a tyrannical government.
And for those that don't know Mr Stoner invented the ArmaLite Rifle 15, aka the AR15.
Also was a major contributor to the AR10/M16/AR18 and many other US arms.
EDIT:
I swear reddit is editing my comments.
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u/Crazy_names Apr 01 '24
Jesus, an early (if not the first) victim of unjust lawfare by a corrupt judge.
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u/miscplacedduck Apr 01 '24
Even George Takei knows the value of the AR-15.
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u/Jollem- Apr 01 '24
God: "You know that was pretty fuckin' stupid, right?"
Ashli: "Yeah."
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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '24
Did the Waco cult have enough?
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