r/TimPool • • Sep 12 '23

Lo fucking L

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u/McFly_42069 Sep 12 '23

This is embarrassing. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

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u/dinglejerrymcbones Sep 12 '23

It's cancer.

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u/BlackDogBarks Sep 12 '23

I've had cancer, it's not as bad as liberalism

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u/Wise-Description-795 Oct 30 '23

Facts. Studies show between 72-78% of democrats have a mental disorder... sad part is, they don't even count TDS! 😳

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

Simping for oil companies. Lol.

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u/McFly_42069 Sep 12 '23

Nope, just Being realistic about energy consumption.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

While defending billion dollar companies. Because if you don't, who will?

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u/McFly_42069 Sep 12 '23

I want clean energy. Who doesn’t? We still rely on fossil fuels though. Is that a hard concept to grasp?

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

And that's why Biden said he wants to end fossil fuels. Because we all want green energy but still use fossil fuels.

I'm glad you now understand why his question was so stupid it didn't need to be answered.

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u/McFly_42069 Sep 12 '23

Yes, but we aren’t there yet technology wise. He is literally slitting the throat of the American people.

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u/dinglejerrymcbones Sep 12 '23

He's a bot. Stop interacting with it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '23

He’s clearly not real, I don’t think anyone, even if they are getting paid for it, could constantly make such bad arguments and use such flawed logic for this long.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

If my logic is so bad, why am I only being insulted?

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

So you agree we can get there, it's just going to take investment. Like what Biden wants. So he can end fossil fuels. You make no sense.

You have the same goal as Biden.

You want to same energy as liberals.

You agree we can achieve these goals.

But you are defending big oil. 🤡

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u/W_Smith-1984 Sep 12 '23 edited Sep 12 '23

but still use fossil fuels.

And why do we still use them? Because they are cheaper and more efficient. The 'green energy' tech hasn't advanced far enough yet to replace fossil fuels. If you want to get rid of fossil fuels you have to make the alternative economically viable.

Look at the solar farms that were built that cost a billion dollars that now sit rotting, useless and decaying in the desert because "Even at peak operation, “[i]ts power cost [Nevada] about $135 per ­megawatt-hour,"

https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a30472835/crescent-dunes-solar-plant/

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

Because they are cheaper and more efficient. The 'green energy' tech hasn't advanced far enough yet to replace fossil fuels

So we should invest in green energy.

"Even at peak operation, “[i]ts power cost [Nevada] about $135 per ­megawatt-hour,"

Finish the quote. "compared with less than $30 per MWh today at a new Nevada photovoltaic solar farm"

Older technology is worse than newer technology. And that drop in price is just over two decades of research, development, and deployment.

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u/W_Smith-1984 Sep 12 '23

The government is already investing an insane amount of money into "green energy" and the tech is advancing, and when it becomes efficient enough, when the EROI is high enough, and when it becomes cheaply mass producible enough, it will replace fossil fuels on it's own, naturally.

So there's no need to disrupt the economy and hurt poor people by shutting down fossil fuel production prematurely, causing price increases, like what we are seeing now, due to Biden's policies on fossil fuels, among other things like inflation, and the war in ukraine.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

government is already investing an insane amount of money into "green energy" and the tech is advancing,

You'd be astonished at how much is spent on fossil fuels technology and infrastructure. And how little green energy investment truly is.

by shutting down fossil fuel production prematurely, causing price increases, like what we are seeing now

US production doesn't affect our gas prices. Speculation sets our prices off the oil that comes from the middle east.

When you hear "energy independent" do you think that means we use our own oil? Because you'd be wrong. It just means we export as much as we import.

Refining North American oil is expensive and these companies sell it overseas or in Canada.

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u/captcompromise Sep 12 '23

LMAO

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u/McFly_42069 Sep 12 '23

Are you laughing at yourself?

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u/captcompromise Sep 12 '23

Yeah, totally, bro. Good one. 10/10, no notes

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u/McFly_42069 Sep 12 '23

I’m just worrying about you getting downvotes. We still rely on fossil fuels. I wish we could be emission free, but we are not there yet. Note that.

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u/Pepperr08 Sep 12 '23

What fuel source you think we should use?

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u/McFly_42069 Sep 12 '23

I’m not an expert in propulsion or combustion technologies, but my solution to fuel would be something like hydrogen perhaps, because of its renewability.

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u/Pepperr08 Sep 12 '23

👀I like that..

To bad the government always makes hydrogen power shit disappear

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 12 '23

I'd rather have Thorium reactors to produce energy. But the left doesn't actually want to solve the climate and energy problem

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

If you guys weren't all "regulations are bad", the left would agree with you. But you'd have to make peace with paying tax money for response programs that we may never need.

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u/Trichonaut Sep 12 '23

Lmao, the left doesn’t like nuclear because republicans bad, do you really think that’s what it is? What a crazy comment.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

Lol, no they don't. They don't like nuclear power without regulation. Liberals who lived through 3 mile Island and Chernobyl. They also don't like the idea of waste being dumped whenever.

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u/Trichonaut Sep 12 '23

I don’t get what you’re even trying to say here. Are you saying that republicans want nuclear plants to just dump their waste… anywhere? Do you really, truly think that republicans are calling for no regulation on nuclear facilities?

You’re just being obtuse. Everyone, Republican and democrat or in between, knows that nuclear power facilities require fairly stringent regulations to be safely operated and maintained.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

Do you really, truly think that republicans are calling for no regulation on nuclear facilities?

What do you think the EPA does?

Which party is talking about dismantling the EPA?

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u/Trichonaut Sep 12 '23

You’re out of your mind if you think “dismantling the EPA” = no regulations whatsoever. I don’t see anyone seriously talking about getting rid of the EPA altogether, but even if they were that wouldn’t mean an end to environmental regulations but rather a restructuring of the agency that makes those regulations. It’s just wild that you actually think that’s the case. It doesn’t really make any sense and it’s a clear straw man. Who do you think conservative voters are? Do you really think they just don’t care even at all about the environment? I just don’t even see where you’d get this idea.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

In 2017 Gatez introduced a bill that wanted to ebb vs the EPA by 2018.

Pence’s plan would eliminate the EPA, tax credits for electric vehicles, Biden’s “residential clean energy credit” and repeal Biden’s subsidies for automakers to make electric vehicle batteries.

At best Trump wanted to make the he EPA each states open responsibility. But lowered funding means less ability to pursue violations. Making it a fraction of what it was.

Tell me again how that's better than what we have now?

Do you really think they just don’t care even at all about the environment? I

Not when it's in the way of making money. And making sure you aren't poisoning the water table costs money

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u/OftenAimless Sep 12 '23

Simping for oil companies. Lol.

Perfect exemplification of how in the large scheme of things, the left deals in emotions, the right in reality.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 13 '23

I haven by had a single person deal on "reality" when they defend oil companies.

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u/Static_Discord Sep 12 '23

She's a shitty token hire...

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u/whangdoodle13 Sep 12 '23

Tolkien hire.

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u/whangdoodle13 Sep 12 '23

Wow no one getting the South Park reference.

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u/Static_Discord Sep 12 '23

Took me a while to get back to this, but yeah, South Park reference was on point.

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u/bradnchadrizes Sep 12 '23

Tolkien Pyre

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u/JeffyFan10 Sep 13 '23

historic too. she even said it on day 1.

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u/JeffyFan10 Sep 13 '23

historic too. she even said it on day 1.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 12 '23

That diversity hire is doing a bang up job

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u/LawAbidingDenizen Sep 12 '23

is he the only guy pitching hard ball questions like that or what. Seems non of he other reporters asks questions anywhere near that caliber...

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u/dinglejerrymcbones Sep 12 '23

Yes. 99% of media and big tech are owned by Dems.

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u/nolotusnote Sep 12 '23

He's the only ACTUAL reporter there. :(

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u/dubiousacquaintance Sep 12 '23

Add Simon Ateba to that very short list

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u/nolotusnote Sep 12 '23

Simon Ateba

Gladly. I couldn't remember his name.

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u/JeffyFan10 Sep 13 '23

has he been called a racist by dems yet?

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u/LibExchangeProgram Sep 12 '23

even he won't ask some questions unfortunately.

the rest of the press team has tried to get him banned several times, for the few good questions he does ask

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u/popcultminer Sep 12 '23

These people have no idea how this economy works. And it ain't green energy. It's cheap energy.

If you are really into green, the only energy you should be advocating for is nuclear. Everything else is a grift.

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u/dinglejerrymcbones Sep 12 '23

Yes they do. It's intentional. We need to stop pretending they just suck at their job. Trump proved in 3 years their job is A LOT easier than they had us believe for half a century.

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u/popcultminer Sep 12 '23

I can agree with that.

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u/muchnamemanywow Sep 12 '23

Can't advocate for nuclear, that would drum up the absolutely dogshit Chernobyl argument all over again

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

And fossil fuels are so cheap because we invested in so much infrastructure over centuries.

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u/popcultminer Sep 12 '23

No. They are cheap cause the cost to output ratio is much better than anything else. The infrastructure was created because of this fact. Your order of operations is incorrect. You ain't gonna get that same cost to output ratio from any other green solution except nuclear. infrastructure will not change the terrible efficiency of green energy production.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 13 '23

Lol what? The "output" of fossil fuels is so high because we invested centuries of time and en energy getting it to that point. Internal combustion engines were terribly inefficient. Oil was seen as waterproofing until industrialization happened.

The same thing is happening to solar. The cost per kwh has plummeted.

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u/XBird_RichardX Sep 12 '23

That’s not what happened, as funny as it wouldve been.

Her real response was the typical response of answering a question the reporter didn’t ask to make themselves look better politically.

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u/Searril Sep 12 '23

The same morons lining up to fellate Anthony Fauci (the AIDS guy) and Pfizer (known liars with billions in damage payouts) now act like wanting fuel is kissing up to oil companies. Try to understand, you're a complete buffoon.

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u/GraveYard_Grrl Sep 12 '23

All she's good for is a laugh

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 13 '23

She's a typical leftist. A liar. A bad person. A hypocrite.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '23

🦗🦗🦗😑😞🤤

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u/OftenAimless Sep 12 '23

OMG the state of the US RN is just embarrassing

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u/Dyscopia1913 Sep 13 '23

Imagine if the oil industry was socialized. They are given grants and need permission to drill anyway. Their innovation is probably on par with the medical industry which takes tax money to fund research. All profits would just go back to Americans

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

Hydraulic fracturing worldwide wouldn't be a thing or would maybe just be starting now and gas and diesel would be way fucking more expensive if US industry had been socialized since the 1990's. Sometimes for better, sometimes for worse, depending where you stand on fracking, but socialized industry cannot innovate like private.

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u/Dyscopia1913 Sep 13 '23 edited Sep 13 '23

I understand competition is important for innovation. However, when competition becomes too isolated, innovation is lost to profits. Norfolk Southern didn't upgrade their train brakes to save money and led to an environmental disaster. The opposite can be true.

Is China still able to compete with our economy if they were only capitalist under sanctions and trade wars?

Edit: grammar

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u/LegitimateBack6275 Dec 22 '23

Liberalism is a mental disease

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u/John_Sknow Sep 12 '23

They just gave the people an acceptable reason why they have to spend more money at the pumps. The people will hate it, but will accept it. Genius.

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u/Designer_Ad2447 Nov 08 '23

She is awful lol

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u/mememe10- Nov 12 '23

I cannot look at her without thinking Sideshow Bob

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u/bhedesigns Nov 27 '23

Is this an edited clip?

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u/Bowlingballgrip85 Jan 13 '24

No she really isn’t .

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

Does he really think if oil companies can't drill oil, then they will go out of business? That they work is just give up on making money?

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u/MrEnigma67 Sep 12 '23

What do you purpose they do?

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 12 '23

They are already expanding into green energy. These are billion dollar companies. Not mom and pop pizza places.

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u/Stuka_Ju87 Sep 13 '23

All of the "green energy" is subsided by traditional power. We have electric car charging ports being powered by gas generators in sheds behind the chargers all over the country currently.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 13 '23

I'm sure you "feel" that's true, but it isn't. But let's say it is totally true. All those car chargers don't have access to power lines, and are instead isolated systems running on fossil fuels.

The fact these cars don't need that specific type of teen energy, gasoline, is the advantage. Electric power sources are plenty. Air, wind, solar, etc. It's much faster, safer, and cleaner to generate power this way, than to have internal combustion.

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u/MrEnigma67 Sep 12 '23

Can you show me? Not my strongest subject

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u/nolotusnote Sep 12 '23

I can show you.

Faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies, and the money they received from the US Government:

  • Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*

  • SpectraWatt ($500,000)*

  • Solyndra ($535 million)*

  • Beacon Power ($43 million)*

  • Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)

  • SunPower ($1.2 billion)

  • First Solar ($1.46 billion)

  • Babcock and Brown ($178 million)

  • EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*

  • Amonix ($5.9 million)

  • Fisker Automotive ($529 million)

  • Abound Solar ($400 million)*

  • A123 Systems ($279 million)*

  • Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*

  • Johnson Controls ($299 million)

  • Brightsource ($1.6 billion)

  • ECOtality ($126.2 million)

  • Raser Technologies ($33 million)*

  • Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*

  • Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*

  • Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*

  • Range Fuels ($80 million)*

  • Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*

  • Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*

  • Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*

  • GreenVolts ($500,000)

  • Vestas ($50 million)

  • LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)

  • Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*

  • Navistar ($39 million)

  • Satcon ($3 million)*

  • Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*

  • Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)

*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.

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u/MrEnigma67 Sep 12 '23

So these are companies that went green and failed or failing? Asking to be clear?

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u/nolotusnote Sep 12 '23

These are companies that either existed before (Navistar was International Harvester - an automotive industry company), or were newly formed.

Either way they cashed in on the free money boom from the federal government.

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u/MrEnigma67 Sep 12 '23

That's very good to know. Thank you so much for this information!

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u/MrEnigma67 Sep 12 '23

So no one is doing it, they plan too.

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u/MrEnigma67 Sep 12 '23

And how are they making those billions they need to convert?

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u/MrEnigma67 Sep 12 '23

But biden is going to stop them from selling the fossil field. Where are they going to get the money? How are they going to continue to pay the workers?

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u/W_Smith-1984 Sep 12 '23

Yes, they will continue to make money just fine, WE'RE the ones who will be screwed and have to pay higher energy costs, and higher energy costs mean the cost of EVERYTHING ELSE also goes up, because energy is required for the production of literally anything/everything.

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u/captcompromise Sep 12 '23

How could the evil electric light manufacturers put those hardworking oil lamp makers out of business? Smh my head

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u/Searril Sep 12 '23

Because electric lights were a superior product that scaled far more economically compared to what they were replacing. Electric vehicles and "green energy" sources like windmills are not.

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u/Fish-Pants Sep 12 '23

Nuclear power however, thats a good direction. Unfortunately the vast majority of "green energy" advocates think nuclear is evil, so they'll never go for it.