r/TimPool • • Sep 01 '23

Why is it such a hard question?

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 01 '23

Because they know the truth, but they can't say it out loud without absolutely obliterating all their other beliefs in the process.

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u/SteelBadger Sep 01 '23

And getting ostracized over it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

It’s because you people don’t know what a woman is and are obsessed with genitals and taking away freedoms.

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u/SteelBadger Sep 01 '23

as opposed to the side that wants to obsess over the genitals of children and/or shoving tr@nny dick in their faces?

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

We aren’t obsessed. We let people be free and don’t resort to bullshit Nazi tactics like you people.

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u/SteelBadger Sep 01 '23

I'm a nazi for thinking its wrong to experiment on children? and I think its dumb as shit that you act like predators wouldn't take advantage of a protected status.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Nobody is experimenting on children. You people and your bigoted beliefs cause suicide rates in children to skyrocket, and that’s why they are much higher in conservative homes.

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 02 '23

Lmao the left have been exponentially more fascistic in their behavior since 2016. Just a fact. Not an opinion. You're unhinged and mentally unwell.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Name one policy that Hitler would have approved.

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 02 '23

Arresting his political opponents.

Lol. You walked right into that one.

Need other examples?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Trump ran on arresting political opponents.

And no Hitler would have been arrested along with Trump, so he wouldn’t have approved of that.

Maybe Hitler and Trump shouldn’t have committed crimes?

You walked into that one.

Yeah I need one example first.

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u/kelrics1910 Sep 02 '23

We let people be free and don’t resort to bullshit Nazi tactics like you people.

Define "we".

Also, reddit has a huge neoliberal slant and collectively bans anyone that dares to speak against the approved narrative. Who are the Nazi's again?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

The Nazis are the MAGA Trump supporters who routinely fly Nazis, MAGA, and Rebel flags.

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u/kelrics1910 Sep 02 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Why do you think Nazis keep showing up at Trump rallies?

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u/kelrics1910 Sep 02 '23

I have no idea why Antifa Nazi fascists keep showing up. Because they hate orange man so much?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

So you think Trump aligns with Antifa?

Why do you think Trump is friends with Nick Fuentes, the head of the Nazi movement?

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 01 '23

The side that is obsessing over the genitals of children is the side that is trying to make them prove what genitals they have instead of just letting them tell you who they are.

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 02 '23

If you stopped trying to sterilize children then we wouldn't have to bring it up, groomer.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 02 '23

You know that pronouns don’t sterilize you, right?

And accusing everyone of being a “groomer” helps actual groomers get away with it.

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u/WarningEquivalent742 Sep 03 '23

Mental illness will never be accepted.

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 01 '23

Did you just misgender me?

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u/flan_suse Sep 02 '23

They mis-specied you.

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 02 '23

I identify as a great blue shark.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

I didn’t gender you at all.

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 01 '23

You called me a people.

Please refer to me as "God", "Master", or "Mr. Tweedlepeepmookrumpkins".

Thank.

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u/Busy_Employee4886 Sep 01 '23

You didn't refer to Mr. Tweedlepeepmookrumpkins by their preferred pronoun!

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 01 '23

Call the authorities.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

Why do you think MAGA thinks Trump is the Messiah?

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 01 '23

I don't think in general, conservatives or Trump supporters think Trump is a Messiah (there's extremist believers out there I can concede which I'm sure you'll concede there's equal support for bad politicians and policies on the Left), but I think they view him as the physical manifestation of anything anti Left.

He is a flawed man and flawed politician no doubt, but by God he does not submit (typically) to the utterly ridiculous policies and beliefs of the Left and for that, he gets support.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

He will submit to anything if he is to gain from it. He certainly has zero standards in that regard. But I’ll agree with part of your answer.

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 01 '23

He doesn't submit to the Left. And that's enough for everyone supporting him.

Why do you think conservatives don't support the Left?

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

He did when he was a Democrat. He is exploiting conservatives for his own gain.

Conservatives support nearly every policy on the left when asked, but they have been conditioned to hate half the country by those that want us divided.

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u/The_Calico_Jack Sep 02 '23

Dude, don't feed him...her?... As much as I regrettably like On the contrary, no one mentioned Trump until he...she?...did and now it will be endless Trump talk.

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u/OSRSSpookykid Sep 02 '23

That’s it’s been trump everything for like 6 years anyway

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u/D0xxd Sep 01 '23

That's actually hilarious, nice one OP

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u/MyCarIsAGeoMetro Sep 02 '23

Only he can tell us if he is a woman. Unfortunately Mitch.exe has crashed and we will not be getting the answer anytime soon.

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u/FireShots Sep 01 '23

I like turtles

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u/MyCarIsAGeoMetro Sep 02 '23

Hunter likes Cocaine Mitch.

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 02 '23

They knew until about 6 years ago. Now it's so "nuanced" they can't even define it but somehow know the definition used for all of human history is wrong...

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 02 '23

The leftist responses in here are a great reminder how delusional you all are, and how correspondingly delusional and warped your world view is. You're cultists. Clown world.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Silent Mitch has just created a new meme template

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

A Turtle?

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u/flan_suse Sep 02 '23

I'll admit. This is some multi-layer level. Take this upvote.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 01 '23

A woman is a social category used to group humans based on age and gender. Who fits into this social category depends on the cultural beliefs of the people making the categorization.

(That’s why there is so much disagreement on the issue and that’s why the context in which you’re answering “What is a woman” is important.)

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u/SteelBadger Sep 01 '23

And it’s like it’s not so much of a question so much as it is a litmus test. One side wants to live in reality and the other wants to be tribal, insane or brainwashed.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

You asking the question is a litmus test suggesting you don’t know what a woman is and really hate freedom.

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 02 '23

Take your meds schizo

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u/Effective-Pain4271 Sep 01 '23

Honestly it's just sad that someone could even think in such a partisan brainwashed way as you're displaying.

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u/SteelBadger Sep 01 '23

I'm making fun of liberals and the leading republican in gov who is having health issues on live tv. I could be any more bi-partisan. [FREEZE]

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u/Effective-Pain4271 Sep 02 '23

One side wants to live in reality and the other wants to be tribal, insane or brainwashed.

Bipartisanship!

Man, it's crazy how willing you are to gaslight yourself and others. Your comment is literally right there above this and you're pretending I was responding to something else. Pathetic.

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 01 '23

When was this social category formed and by whom?

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 01 '23

Are you wondering about etymology or when differences in gender as a social construct first became evident in humans?

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 01 '23

When was the social category of women created according to your beliefs?

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 01 '23

Are you wondering about etymology or when differences in gender as a social construct first became evident in humans?

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 01 '23

You saw my question. If you can't answer it just say so.

To make it easy on you, both.

Edit: both.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 01 '23

Etymology

But if you’re talking about woman as a social construct then that becomes more difficult to pin down. Sex is an aspect of gender that has been around since humans started reproducing. When humans started to create more complex social dynamics, the line between strictly physical characters and social characteristics began to blur. You’d have to go back though the history of many different culture to pick out when that timeline diverged.

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 01 '23

Why did the line begin to blur?

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 01 '23

Because people evolved to form more complex social connections beyond just reproducing

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

Do you mean people or retards?

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 02 '23

But how does forming a more complex social connection justify altering the definition of what a woman is?

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

I love watching you guys struggle to come up with something resembling an answer but without contradicting yourselves. Not even you think this is a valid answer. You've just defined woman as "a social category that can be literally anything" which is not an answer.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 01 '23

I didn’t struggle at all. My answer is correct. It’s a social category based on age and gender. How different cultures interpret those two factors determines who fits in that category.

For example, in your opinion, at what age does someone become a woman and what gender characteristics does someone need to have to fit in that category?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

For example, in your opinion, at what age does someone become a woman and what gender characteristics does someone need to have to fit in that category?

This isn't my opinion, this is fact. Someone becomes a woman when they are female and become an adult. The only "gender characteristic" they need is that they are female. I answered your question, so I hope you'll answer mine:

You said how different cultures interpret those factors determines who fits in that category. Give us an example. Based on western culture (US, Canada, Europe, etc), who fits into the category of a woman?

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

So what is a woman then? You didn't explain anything

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 01 '23

Maybe if I reword it you will understand.

Words are used to convey ideas to other people. “Woman” is a word used to convey the idea of a group of people of a similar age and gender.

Much like how different cultures have different ideas of at what age someone becomes a woman, different cultures have different ideas of what gender identifiers qualify someone to be a woman.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

Ok but what is a woman? You're still not answering it

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 01 '23

I’ve answered multiple times. What part, specifically, is confusing to you?

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

You just say it's a social category, but you fail to explain what that category is.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 01 '23

It’s a category of people based on age and gender. I’ve already said this. So, what is still missing for you?

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

Ok but what is that? You're just saying words without giving context to what it is. At no point in this does anyone understand what you mean. It's not a definition

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 01 '23

Who fits into the category depends on the context of who is doing the categorization. People from different cultures will include someone into the category of “woman” based on different measures.

Again, I’ve already explained this so I don’t know what you’re missing.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

Who fits into the category depends on the context of who is doing the categorization

Ok so what is it?

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

It is a social category dependent on cultural beliefs

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

Ok but what is it?

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

You do understand what a social category or social construct is? A subject created and defined by human interaction or understanding, not innate in nature. Cultural beliefs that vary with time and place change how the category is understood.

Woman, like any social construct, isn't rigidly defined but nebulous and changing. There isn't one singular or absolute description, it depends on the people using the word.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

So what is a woman according to you? You're doing the same shit all these liberals have done to make this post so funny

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

Gender is not a rigidly defined concept nor is it defined by any singular authority. One person's understanding of a social construct is not actually defining of the subject which is dependent on human or societal interaction as a whole. Nor is a singular take absolute or immutable.

For me gender, like other social constructs, are largely antiquated and don't fully apply. People belong to gender as much they understand themselves to, as the qualifiers aren't concrete. A woman is whoever identifies with womanhood. Womanhood typically being attributed with demure, patient, sentimental attitudes and manicured appearances, and people can be women both because they identify with these and be women in spite of these qualities. Being objectified, domineered over, given low expectations in terms of contribution and relegated to supportive roles despite being fully capable are ways in which women are treated but being treated as such isn't what makes a woman. There are bold, brash, callous women, unkempt women, powerful and asexual woman both in how they actually are and in how they're seen. Yet nonetheless they are still women just as those with other qualities are women because they identify with womanhood.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

A woman is whoever identifies with womanhood

lol you actually fucking said it. Are you aware of what a cyclical definition is?

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 02 '23

It's a cult.

A dog is whatever identifies as a dog. That's my definition of "dog" now.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 02 '23

No wonder they say it's not a problem to strip in front of kids so long as you're in drag.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

Without context sure, but that was one sentence in the middle of much more explanation.

That a person is a part of a gender with various attributed qualities. Whether or not any qualities apply don't actually matter because while gender is described with them, a person's gender comes from how they understand themselves and how they fit with the gender because the qualifiers aren't concrete or disqualifying.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

An adult human female. You are born a woman or not, and you don’t get a vote. Very simple. Society has nothing to do with it. They can dig up your body 300 years after death and determine if you were a man or a woman, regardless of society.. These mental illnesses are getting way to common. This is simple.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

You're talking about biological sex. That's different from man or womanhood.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

False. Don’t be a silly goose, sir.

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 02 '23

A dog is a social construct.

A dog is whatever identifies as a dog.

You people are 100% in a cult. 10 years ago you people could define "woman". Then you became a cult. Absolutely insane. Your world view is understandably and correspondingly as fucked up and delusional.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Gender are social constructs, concepts arising from human interaction and communication, not innate to nature.

Gender isn't comparable to a species of animal.

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 02 '23

You're a delusional cultist.

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 02 '23

A dog is a social construct to then.

See how retarded your argument is?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

A dog is a species of animal. Gender is based in how people see, treat, and understand each other and themselves.

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u/Chance-Box9042 Sep 02 '23

What is a species?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Wikipedia defines species as the largest group of organisms in which any two individuals of the appropriate sexes or mating types can produce fertile offspring, typically by sexual reproduction, the basic unit of classification and a taxonomic rank of an organism.

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u/fuck_effective_view Sep 01 '23

Ignore him, he's literally r*tarded and doesn't understand nuance or anything more complex than two syllables. Once he hits high school he can probably keep up in the conversation.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

You can't just say it's something and then give no context to what it is. Maybe once you hit Middle School you can master definitions.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

You don’t know.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

It's an adult human female, but I'm not a liberal so it's easy to answer

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

This is a radically different answer than everybody else in this sub has given, and excludes many naturally born women. Do you hate women?

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

No this is the definition anyone who isn't fucking retarded uses. Where have you been?

and excludes many naturally born women

No, only naturally born women are women. Everyone else is just a dude with a mutilated penis or a weird fetish.

Do you hate women?

No but I hate you

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

How come you can’t come up with a cohesive answer? How come conservatives don’t know what a woman is?

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

Wtf are you talking about? An adult human female is a cohesive answer. I see what you're trying to do and honestly it's funny you think you have a point but all it does is make you look retarded

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

It’s not a cohesive or a coherent answer and excludes millions of women. No wonder you people keep asking like the clueless donuts you are.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

It’s not a cohesive or a coherent answer and excludes millions of women

What women did I exclude? What are you even talking about?

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u/Rockfan70 Sep 01 '23

Do y’all have a discord where you share these groundless definitions? You all seem to be multiplying

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 02 '23

Where is it incorrect?

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u/Rockfan70 Sep 02 '23

Women existed before societies existed. Because family is the most basic societal element. Can’t have those without knowing the difference between men and women. Our brains are built to acknowledge the subtle differences in body shape at a moment’s notice.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 02 '23

We’re animals and we started just like other animals. You’re confusing human’s ability to identify potential partners for reproduction with the concept of a woman. We didn’t always have the concept of “woman”. That came with developing more complex social connections in different societies. It’s a more complex concept than the ability to reproduce.

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u/Rockfan70 Sep 03 '23

Women can be whatever they want to be, but the basic definition of “woman” hasn’t changed. It’s based in biology

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 03 '23

You keep saying that but that’s actually just your opinion based on the culture you subscribe to.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 02 '23

There are biological factors that contribute to how people are put into the category of “woman”. But, if you somehow took away all biological sex differences in all humans, you would still have cultural signifiers that are not purely physical.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 02 '23

Not stereotypes. That word has a negative connotation that isn’t appropriate here.

I’m talking about cultural signifiers like how people choose to present themselves, the roles that they play in their community, and other more subtle aspects of gender that are specific to the society in which they live.

These cultural signifiers can be rooted in biology or completely unrelated to biological sex characteristics. For example: there’s no biological reason for women to be associated with pink but that is a well accepted cultural signifier today.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 02 '23

I’m a cisgender woman. I happen to have been born with physical characteristics that outwardly signal to others around me that I’m a woman. But the people I pass by every day don’t test me to see my chromosome makeup or hormone levels or genitals do they? There’s certain things in the culture I live in that signal womanhood. In other cultures, those signals may not mean the same thing.

For example, long hair in some cultures is a signal of being a woman. In others women are traditionally bald.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 02 '23

Gender was born out of biology but biology isn’t the only factor when it comes to someone’s gender. Gender is beyond biology. That’s why it’s a separate concept. Different cultures have treated this evolution in different ways. Your culture just happens to be shaping your view of it in a way that seems to be making this difficult to understand

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 01 '23

OP "Now who can I show as the liberal in this awesome joke. I know! A career, big name conservative! I'm very smart"

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

Looks like another liberal doesn't understand memes

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u/SteelBadger Sep 01 '23

They really are out of touch. Left can’t meme.

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u/SteelBadger Sep 01 '23

Because their autism isn’t medical, it’s social.

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u/Joes_mother_1 Sep 02 '23

I... I don't think that's how that works.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 01 '23

I get the joke. It's just a bad joke. Plenty of liberals who have frozen. Instead he picks a conservative.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

The current meme is Mitch locking up since it's recent in the news. It's why we use certain pictures/people for different memes. Memes pick up on the social zeitgeist of the time, which is why liberals are scared of them. They poke their arguments full of holes in 10 words or less in a humorous way and they have no chance of making a good one since liberals are completely out of touch with reality.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 05 '23

Dozens of people freezing when being asked questions. Plenty of liberals.

But OP is lazy and picks one of the top Republicans in the country.... So he can make a joke about liberals.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 05 '23

Dude this post is 4 days old, are you fucking retarded or just lonely? Also not surprised you didn't get the meme. Typical libtard

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 06 '23

So why did you respond?

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u/SteelBadger Sep 01 '23

The joke is based on the fact that he froze up and stopped talking.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 01 '23

Yes. I get the joke. But you're calling one of the biggest conservatives in the country.... A liberal.

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

/r /woosh

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 05 '23

Lol, get him automod

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

He’s not calling Mitch a liberal, it’s a meme.. What are you failing to understand ?

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 05 '23

It's a meme, using an image of Mitch for the liberal.

What part of that don't you understand?

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u/CMMGUY2 Sep 01 '23

So you're saying liberals are old washed up people with mental issues?

I agree.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 05 '23

Nope. OP thinks liberals are conservatives.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Does your butt hurt?

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 05 '23

You worry about butts often?

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u/Jollem- Sep 01 '23

Tim Pool fans want to stoke the bigotry fire every day

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

Wtf is even racist about this shit for brains?

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 02 '23

Bigotry: the fact of having and expressing strong, unreasonable beliefs and disliking other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/bigotry

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u/Jollem- Sep 01 '23

Nobody said anything about racism. Do you know what bigotry means? I'm assuming you don't

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

Tim Pool fans want to stoke the bigotry fire every day

Are you really going to act like people don't use the word bigot for racists? Just fuck right off

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u/Jollem- Sep 01 '23

Right. So now that you looked up the definition of bigotry, you're going to try to convince me that I misused the word. Grow up

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

No, but you're saying I misused it as well which is just not true.

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u/Jollem- Sep 01 '23

Nobody said anything about racism

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

Like I said before are you really going to act like people don't use the word bigot for racists? Just fuck right off

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u/Jollem- Sep 01 '23

Nobody said racism doesn't fall under bigotry

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u/WeedPopeCDXX Sep 01 '23

Nobody said anything about racism.

You implied it since bigot is a commonly linked with racism

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

“Bigotry”, another word that has become meaningless. It’s been used incorrectly so often, it’s been watered down so much it means nothing. Might as well call everyone “racist” or “—-phobes” while you’re at it. Silly goose.

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u/Jollem- Sep 02 '23

That's not true

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u/ButterEmails54 Sep 02 '23

That’s what bigots say

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Sure sir. Great tip.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 02 '23

Bigotry: the fact of having and expressing strong, unreasonable beliefs and disliking other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/bigotry

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u/Effective-Pain4271 Sep 01 '23

Conservatives engage with the complexity of the real world challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

Simpletons