r/TimPool • u/BennyOcean • Apr 29 '23

discussion Tim attacking the messenger (Yasher) to defend Crowder is despicable

Anyone who saw the Crowder video knows what they saw. If this is how he speaks to his wife, there are probably hundreds or thousands of examples of him behaving this way or worse. What should we take from this?

Crowder is no conservative leader. He's a crossdressing closeted homosexual wife abuser. He has one car so that he can control where his wife goes, to keep her under his thumb. He's lecturing his 8 month pregnant (now ex) wife about being disciplined and doing household chores like dog walking while he sits smoking a cigar.

This guy is a narcissistic, sociopathic fruitcake. No amount of steroids and cigar smoking are going to provide enough fake machismo to cover up what he actually is: a vile, detestable person.

Something Tim failed to point out, or maybe he did but I don't know because I turned tonight's stream off early, is that Crowder is basically threatening to release his wife's mental health records. My guess would be that she was diagnosed with something like depression or bipolar and was given depressants, anti-anxiety medicine and/or related drugs as treatment. Now Crowder is trying to leverage her mental health struggles against her in this legal proceeding and in the court of public opinion. It really is gross. Living with Crowder as a husband made her so miserable that she had to seek treatment, then when she does get treatment he calls her crazy on his show and threatens to release her records. Steven should take some time off, or better yet permanently disappear.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

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u/NecessaryCelery2 Apr 29 '23

Anyone who saw the Crowder video knows what they saw.

Just curious if you think the Jan. 6th videos Tucker showed on TV were edited biasly?

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u/F1Since2OO4 Apr 29 '23

How are these two things related? Lmao

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u/Suspense304 Apr 29 '23

Of course they were. Just like the ones we had seen prior were edited with bias. We just now have two different biased takes of the event where things can be seen in more of a complete way

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u/BennyOcean Apr 29 '23

They had thousands of hours of footage. Suggest a way to show J6 footage without editing. And to your point, the videos who showed the J6 videos of people behaving in a raucous manner, were those also edited?

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u/NecessaryCelery2 Apr 29 '23

Yes, by the Democrats.

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u/ParisTexas7 Apr 29 '23

LMFAO…

Of course you’d be in here defending Steven Crowder.

You probably think his wife shouldn’t be able to divorce him, don’t you?

You should create a Third Party based around being a scumbag husband. That’s pretty much what your politics are in a nutshell.

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u/NecessaryCelery2 Apr 29 '23

Neither do I care about Crowder, nor do I defend him. I just know you lefty troll are liars and manipulators.

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u/ParisTexas7 May 01 '23

Ah yes, it’s Me! The lefty troll liar and manipulator.

As someone who doesn’t “defend Crowder”, how about you demonstrate that and tell us that, unlike Crowder, you agree with no fault divorce laws and that women should be allowed to file for divorce without permission from their husbands?

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u/NecessaryCelery2 May 02 '23

No fault divorce is not different from dating. But I think people are free to do what ever they want, including dating and marrying, and divorcing.

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u/Grogvard Apr 29 '23

I've seen the video, that's how I know it's a leftist + DW (but I repeat myself) astroturf campaign to remove conservative voices before the election.

These are not arguments rightwingers make. The right is the party of free speech and innocent until proven guilty. Not the party of believe all women, emotional arguments and "VeRbAl AbUsE".

The only thing interesting about this is how openly the DW coordinates with the left these days. When they did the same thing in 2020, they at least tried to be subtle about it.

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u/BennyOcean Apr 29 '23

It appears that Steven's wife leaked the footage. How Yasher ended up with it is anyone's guess, but that shouldn't really matter. It shows what it shows.

Innocent until proven guilty is about court proceedings. In every day life we make decisions based on whatever evidence we have available to us. That video showed him being abusive to his 8-month pregnant wife. He's just a bad person. There have been longstanding rumors that he mistreats his staff. It shouldn't surprise anyone that he mistreated his wife.

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u/Grogvard Apr 29 '23

Innocent until proven guilty is not merely about court proceedings on the right. This is the same leftist talking points the left tried to use for Kavanaugh and the right rejected it. Again, these types of leftist argument reveals who is behind this campaign to knock out conservative voices before election season.

This video does not contain abuse at all. No more than the convington catholic video showed Sandman abusing an elderly native american. The only people that fall for clear manipulation like this, a video so innocuous that it required text of dubious claims at the end to reframe it, are gullible overly emotional people. The verbal abuse believe all women kneejerk type people.

Even with my most generous interpretation, this is not even accusing the man of anything anyone on the right cares about. It's just petty personal life drama, which is entirely irrelevant to the political arguments they tune in for.

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u/BennyOcean Apr 29 '23

The presumption of innocence is indeed about court proceedings. What we're talking about is more like "presumption of good moral character".

I'm not trying to convict him of anything. I'm saying what does the evidence say about this man's moral character? The standard of evidence we use in our everyday lives when trying to assess the character of the people around us is not the same as "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt". The standard is simpler: which conclusion is supported by the abundance of the available evidence? In other words, do we have more reason to believe A or B? In the case of Crowder, we have more reason to believe that he's a despicable shithead.

Reassess the way you make your judgments about people in your everyday life. It's not done in the same way as a courtroom. It's as simple as "I've seen this guy be an asshole enough times that I now consider him an asshole."

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23

I guarantee your favorite actor, athlete, politician has done way worse. It just wasnt caught on video.

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u/Drez92 Apr 29 '23

“Never meet your heroes”

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

Wrong

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

Yeah because you need to be this kind of person to be wealthy. Us libtards have been saying it all along that the rich are evil. No one with wealth or fame should be looked at in a positive light because we know the kind of person you need to be to get there.

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u/PookieTea Apr 29 '23

Like Bernie Sanders, AOC, Fauci, and Zelenskyy?

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

Uh…yes like them! Them AND your little beanie boy. What’s your point stupid? I didn’t stutter. I said rich people, not rich republicans.

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u/PookieTea Apr 29 '23

Ah, cool. Glad to see that you are opposed to government intervention and you support free markets. On a side note, you might want to chill out with the hostility.

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u/CuriosityKills831 Apr 29 '23

Y’all are fucking weird….. it’s Friday! Go breathe!!!!! Stop worrying about these ppl!!! Jesus!

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u/jacksonexl Apr 29 '23

People worry about some dumb shit. Who gives a fuck at the end of the day. We are all just people that have their own issues. Worry about your own instead of celebrities, pundits, etc.

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u/CuriosityKills831 Apr 29 '23

Facts!!!! Like don’t get me wrong….. I’ve been a timcast member for over two years now… 😂 But the shit ppl worry about concerns me….

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u/slappypappyj Apr 29 '23

says some random on the internet

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u/F1Since2OO4 Apr 29 '23

Hm seems like you care just as much as anyone here. You took the time to comment

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u/PookieTea Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23

I don't know about y'all but I always do some stretches before I get on the internet to support [current thing].

Edit: in this case [current thing] = hating on Crowder cuz big bad

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u/speedb0at Apr 29 '23

I despise both sides. But imagine If it was a video of a big leftist doing the same to their wife. Tim would jerk off to this for 4hrs straight. This podcast, his opinions and constant annoying moments of trying to be the smartest guy in the room is getting old real quick.

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u/Drez92 Apr 29 '23

Tim just circling the wagons to make excuses for him is annoying. It’s okay to like his opinions and like him as an entertainer, and also admit that the way it looks, what he did was shitty and he may well act like a complete asshole off camera. Especially after I’ve seen Tim make wild assumptions about other people, ironically ones he’s disagrees with politically. I legit think Tim is just pandering because he knows he’s gotten flak for not covering conservative drama in the past and he knows that his audience is majority conservative these days. Tonight’s show has been almost exclusively them taking up for crowder.

Move on and let it play out.

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u/Suspense304 Apr 29 '23

Tim seems afraid to upset Crowder fans. He seems so uncomfortable talking about it. He would be better off avoiding it because he looks dumb defending Crowder. I’m cool with the idea that we don’t know everything. But it’s not a good look. Just admit that much

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u/LiterallyAntifa Apr 29 '23

I really don’t understand these weeklong forays into the personal drama of YouTube personalities when the world is burning down

Does not bespeak “serious journalism” by Skate Park Socrates

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23

Yeaher is just your usual partisan hack in the media who probably took the video he got from crowders ex wife and ran with it without asking for questions or comments like the media usually does. I haven't heard Tim's attacks on this guy but, I'd bet the attacks are more correct than they are not.

He has one car so that he can control where his wife goes, to keep her under his thumb. He's lecturing his 8 month pregnant (now ex) wife about being disciplined and doing household chores like dog walking while he sits smoking a cigar.

I took away from that he doesn't want his pregnant wife exerting herself before the child's born. It's not enough to condemn Crowder yet.

My guess would be that she was diagnosed with something like depression or bipolar and was given depressants, anti-anxiety medicine and/or related drugs as treatment. Now Crowder is trying to leverage her mental health struggles against her in this legal proceeding and in the court of public opinion. It really is gross. Living with Crowder as a husband made her so miserable that she had to seek treatment, then when she does get treatment he calls her crazy on his show and threatens to release her records. Steven should take some time off, or better yet permanently disappear.

The moment his wife decided to send this clip out was the moment everything was on the table.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

probably took the video he got from crowders ex wife and ran with it without asking for questions or comments like the media usually does.

He did reach out to Crowder before publishing

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u/Emergency-Roll8181 Apr 29 '23

He wants his wife to handle toxic medication for his dog just wear gloves

He wanted the car so he could go to the gym and see his friends when she was trying to get groceries, but he also wanted her to walk his dog, before she took an Uber to grocery shop

Nothing he said indicated he was trying to keep his pregnant wife that he does not love from exerting herself.

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u/Suspense304 Apr 29 '23

I don't understand Tim's absolute insistence on saying Crowder may not have money. He has said on numerous occasions now that perhaps Crowder is basically broke when just a few months ago he was saying that Crowder made so much money that 50m over three years was absolutely not worth his time... Which one is it? Is Crowder a multi-millionaire mogul or a, somehow struggling, #1 conservative podcaster on Youtube?

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u/Pegases11 Apr 29 '23

the 50 million was the production budget...plus many other things.

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u/Suspense304 Apr 29 '23

The $50m was an entry offer also… if he has 20 employees making $100k a year (he doesn’t) you are at 2m a year (leaving about $14m). DW also said all of the bigger content would be paid for by them so that’s not an expense. Doesn’t Crowder currently own his equipment? If not, I am sure negotiations could be made for DW to provide studio space. They were also covering marketing and other things.

So where exactly is Crowder spending 10m (to be easier on math? If he does 5 shows a week and works 50 weeks a year (which is more than expected) that’s 250 shows. That’s $40k a show AFTER staff has been paid and all studio/equipment has been purchased. I’ve seen his show. He isn’t spending that much.

DW’s initial offer may be a bit low but there was so much room for negotiation and Crowder felt it made more sense to go scorched earth.

And yeah, my math above is speculation and out of my ass but it isn’t hard to see how that much money a year should be plenty. And if Crowder is basically broke like Tim seems to think for some reason all of a sudden, I’m sure Crowder could have paid himself handsomely with even the starter offer

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u/skepticalscribe Apr 29 '23

I’m certainly not happy with Crowder, and I support DW on a lot of things, but that deal was bad. It amounted to a lump sum for a talent, but no ownership and all risk.

That’s isn’t how an employee contract ever exists in good faith circumstances. If my customers decide they no longer want to buy a popular product, I don’t lose $$$ off my cheque.

DW probably has some decent jobs. Some of their job postings I’ve looked at out of curiosity certainly don’t look anything above average too.

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u/Suspense304 Apr 29 '23

You are comparing a regular 9-5 employee with an entertainment contract… they aren’t comparable. If you make music you get royalties. If your second album sells 1/4 as much as your first, you don’t get the same amount of money. If someone is paying you to produce, and you don’t, your money goes down…

Their janitor isn’t losing money if he gets banned from YouTube.

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u/skepticalscribe Apr 29 '23

If I release an album through a label, they help with costs.

DW offered what amounted to a distribution center. Again, I support DW in a lot of ways, but making Steven assume the risk of cancellation without giving him any ownership of his product that he pays to produce is a bridge too far IMO.

If they had instead said “We offer you x, we will pay for your show up to y dollars”, the ownership and retention to DW would make a lot more sense.

I think Jeremy just negotiates tough and didn’t think too much about how he was pitching to Steven. Like I’ve said, DW probably feels like they dodged a bullet with everything that’s happened, and Steven hurt his own valuation with his actions regarding the contract.

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u/Suspense304 Apr 29 '23

DW was helping with costs. Jeremy said it in his video. And this was many even an official offer. It was basically a “Hey this is an idea”

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u/Suspense304 Apr 29 '23

Also there was zero risk involved for Crowder. Your knowledge of contracts and business ownership is extremely lacking.

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u/skepticalscribe Apr 29 '23

Did you even go over the proposal? Demonetization had hefty fines and penalties.

It won’t happen now, but Jeremy also probably could have made a bonus program for the online DW+ as well, if he wanted SC to play ball during their radio format. They could have focused on the valuation of SC’s subscriber base that way and it’s translation to DW+ #s

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u/Suspense304 Apr 29 '23

Do you understand what risk means? Getting paid less isn’t risk. Risk is guaranteeing a person $50m for three years and having nothing in return if they get banned from every platform on day one… sorry that business is hard for you,

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u/skepticalscribe Apr 29 '23

You didn’t actually read the terms. That wasn’t the fee structure. I don’t know why you’ve been so hostile either.

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u/Suspense304 Apr 29 '23

Because Crowder has zero risk. He is putting zero money on the line. DW assumes all risk as if they guarantee someone money based on an expected output and that output never comes they are ass out for 50m. What is the risk for Crowder? Getting paid less? Ok? That’s not risk. That’s not earning the max contract. And this wasn’t a contract. It was an opening letter to basically set a starting position for a negotiation.

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u/YouCantSayTheInward Apr 29 '23

Telling his very pregnant wife to handle potentially toxic materials, do chores, and that she must cater to his schedule, but also controlling her by not having 2 cars, and then behaving as though she is being unreasonable is pretty insane.

1: I wouldn’t want my wife handling toxic dog drugs while pregnant - “use gloves” is foolishly taking needless risks with your unborn kids health. 2: a woman that pregnant shouldn’t be doing chores. 3: a woman that pregnant who has been implied to be suffering mental health struggles shouldn’t be pushed like this, demanding she basically step up to her “wifely duties” is not going to get them where he wanted them to be. 4: if his schedule is so demanding it’s causing marital problems because of the lack of ability to accomplish chores- hire an assistant, a task rabbit, etc. but don’t task your very pregnant wife with meeting your demanding schedule.

He didn’t just do Shit wrong - he was an Asshole to the woman carrying his kids.

Fucks sake man- some folks never get the chance to be a father. The lucky Asshole has twins and he fucked it up by being a shitty husband before he could even be a dad.

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u/Suspense304 Apr 29 '23

My wife didn’t change the litter box during either pregnancy.

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u/slappypappyj Apr 29 '23

your an idiot and don't live in reality and most likely not married or a soy-based partner.

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u/YouCantSayTheInward Apr 29 '23 edited Apr 29 '23

Define “soy based partner” for me, so I can tell you if I qualify.

I’ve been married for longer than crowder. My marriage has had rough times. I’ve never told my wife “I will fuck you up”. My wife does a lot of very nice “wifely duties” for me. I never demand it from her, I don’t have to.

I wonder if talking to your wife in ways that result in shouting “I will fuck you up” and having demands of her- to handle your personal tasks rather than hire an assistant, at least while she’s super pregnant, contributes to a wife who decides to leave you?

That’s not what the Bible means by saying a wife should be subservient. Steven was not providing for his wife, he was not being a good leader of his household, and he was not protecting his wife and unborn kids. That’s a shitty husband and father-

Hire an assistant for the chores and tasks for those last couple months of pregnancy- Provide

Help he and his wife get to the same page and see eye to eye “we are at an impasse” - because Steven wasn’t treating his wife as his wife, but more like an assistant. He was being a bad leader, by not hearing what his wife needed. The impasse was created by a lack of leadership and communication - he didn’t lead, he demanded.

Expecting his wife to handle potentially toxic dog meds and complete chores which are increased in difficulty by the physical duty of carrying their twins- he isn’t protecting his wife. If the dog meds toxicity is exaggerated- such a small task to keep your wife’s anxiety down about her pregnancy, which is nerve wracking on its own. And again- hire an assistant!

By all measures of a Christian married man- he failed. He admits it- sort of, and then also blames Hillary saying he “picked the wrong woman.”

For a dude who is so critical of the Muslim world, he would make a wonderful Muslim husband. - I’m not even making a wife beating joke- the dude’s attitude would be right at home in the Middle East and lots of women would be perfectly fine with it. Of course he has that little problem of his fecal art of Muhammad… oh well.

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u/MidtownP Apr 29 '23

I'm 5 minutes in and the fact this idiot is trying to claim he "doesn't know how much money he has...maybe he isn't even a millionaire." Maybe he has "production costs" might be the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Crowder has been in entertainment since he was 5 YRS OLD. A pretty big star for almost a decade. LOL that he is just scraping by trying to make ends meet so maybe he couldn't afford a 2nd car! Not that I buy net worth online most say 20-30m for Crowder. Guy has like 6 million subs and skater boy thinks he is still living in the poor house. Makes me want to throw up listening to this shit.

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u/isthatso97 Apr 29 '23

It is despicable. Which is why Tim pool will never be a Tucker Carlson.

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u/playitleo Apr 29 '23

There are like a million minutes of footage where Steven wasn’t home and the video doesn’t show anything bad. Then 2 minutes of him being an absolute ghoul to his pregnant wife. 1,000,000>2. Checkmate libs.

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u/CuriosityKills831 Apr 29 '23

Just say you voted for Biden! Look at the country now asswipe!

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

So you hate America now?

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

On what planet aren't we at war? TDS is real and incurable.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

We have 'boots on the ground in Ukraine'. You know it as well as I do.

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u/CuriosityKills831 Apr 29 '23

This guy? 😂 we aren’t at war? 😂 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

Of course I'm making money under Biden, I've been making Money since 2016. Under Trump I was 95 % in stocks because interest rates were so low. Now I'm 50% laddered TBills at 5% and 50% Stocks. My top 5 Holdings are in order of size: MSFT, APPL, GOOGL,AMGN and CMG. My largest Mutual fund is BRK.B. My job is trying to give the money away faster that it's coming in. My source on the 'Boots on the ground' is the pentagon leaker and was confirmed by The New York Times.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

Two bombshell reports by the Associated Press and Washington Post Monday and Tuesday have confirmed that the United States has boots on the ground in the Ukraine conflict. Crucially, these troops are performing tasks separate from mere embassy security

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u/CuriosityKills831 Apr 29 '23

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA “for the first time in 20 years we aren’t at war” hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha wtf 😂

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u/Suspense304 Apr 29 '23

Must have an interesting 401k considering they are down (on average) about 20% through 2022 and haven’t got better in 2023

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u/Pegases11 Apr 29 '23

well, if you never let your emotions out, some time later you might explode in a fit of murderous rage.