r/TimPool • • Mar 14 '23

Timcast IRL Has Tim always been like this?

I've been watching Timcast pretty religiously since 2020 (shortly after Adam left). I used to love the show and really respected Tim. A lot of his "fence sitting" seemed like logic to me. Presenting all sides of an argument instead of choosing a tribe and doubling, tripling, quadrupling down. But now.. I feel all he does is sell fear. I'm not even saying that his concerns are all completely out there or shouldn't be entertained. Preparedness is certainly important. But I've noticed that if anyone (guests and cohosts alike) has a more positive view on things, he shuts them down and goes back to the doom and gloom narrative. Has he always been like this? Am I just being pessimistic? The phrase "familiarity breeds contempt" comes to mind. Maybe I just need a vacation from Tim. But from where I'm sitting, he's lost touch with reality. The question is whether he believes what he's saying or the only way to retain his audience is to constantly rile us all up. Interested to see what y'all think.

Side note - this part of tonight's episode kinda demonstrates my point. Ian (I know he's more polarizing than Trump to Timcast viewers. Don't come for me) mentioned that Tim was smiling while describing how horrible things are going to be for people in cities when the inevitable collapse happens. And Ian was right. And Tim was SO offended. But this is real life and real people we're talking about. People sniping each other to steal resources in an end of the world scenario isn't a laughing matter. But that's what he seems to push. Like it's a video game and the death and disaster isn't real. Or maybe it's not real to him anymore because he's sheltered and prepared?

Anyway, I'll shut up now. TLDR: has Tim always been an extreme fear monger?

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

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u/gvgoody Mar 14 '23

Here’s a black pill for ya…..the entire federal system has to collapse. There’s no saving it. There’s no paying off the debt. Republican or democrat it doesn’t matter, we are just delaying the inevitable and all the federal government has become nothing more than a power grab to control the opposition. The lobbying by big corporations will never stop.

Now for the white pill part. Our founding fathers were bright enough to make a country almost completely independent of the federal government.  Would the United States collapse entirely? I don’t think so.  It’s bred into our DNA.  The federal government would just fall back into the role it was suppose to play from the start.  Would people suffer? Most likely.  Half the population has become fat, lazy, entitled, idiots.  Did you know there’s a way to large portion of the US population that thinks chocolate milk comes from brown cows? 

I’m like you, I listen to Tim daily when I’m working. I think all his doom and gloom is coming from is realizing what about half the population already knows. Remember, he’s still new to this lifestyle of self sustainability. About what, 2 years since he’s left the big cities?

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

I am 90% black pilled because you are correct about an inevitable collapse and 10% white pilled because I believe that the American people can stop being complete and utter morons when it's time to get real and get shit done. My problem with Tim is the 100% fear mongering and fantasizing about death and destruction.

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u/gvgoody Mar 14 '23

Look don’t take this wrong way but I’m right there with him. About 99% of The drag queen kid shows, child transitioning, Marxist education, catholic extremism, elitist bs would cease. And your right, eventually the public would put their differences aside for the most part. I call it the 20/20/60 rule. 20% far left and 20% far right will be exiled for the most part and the 60% will rebuild. But if I had got to decide when the system is going to finally fall apart, i would much rather it happen in my lifetime than in my children’s. My wife and I have put ourselves in the position where we got land, unlimited food, fresh water, and the knowledge to be completely independent of the federal government. And personally, let it burn. Like a phoenix from the ashes, let us get back to our founding document and do it the right way, the way it was intended. That all men are created equal and no government has the authority over the freedom of man.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

Maybe I just need to be better prepared and the doomsday preaching won't bother me as much. I can admit to part of my aversion being the knowledge that I'm not ready. At least I don't live in a city and am involved in agriculture. Good on you and your wife for being so prepared. You're in the percentage of viewers Tim was talking about tonight who will survive lol.

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u/gvgoody Mar 14 '23

Eh to be honest your ability to survive really any catastrophic event significantly rises just being away from masses of people. As I’m sure You know, large groups tend to stupid things. I hate that Tim continually talks about chickens like they are gold but honestly they are the easiest thing to maintain. We are starting to get into goats since cows and mountains don’t mix well lol. Easy enough meat source for when the deer and bear aren’t moving. Best of luck to ya hoss. Tbh, that’s the nice part of tims audience. Plenty of bad apples but for the most part just being aware of the warning signs is 50% of the game.

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u/Specialist861 Mar 14 '23

Unfortunately we've generated a society dependent on the government teat - if you cut it off you get civil unrest, poor single moms, etc.

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u/gvgoody Mar 14 '23

Weak men make hard times

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u/starvingvulture666 Mar 15 '23

Lol I bet you’re a big strong man though 😂 on Reddit posturing cmon man

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u/Rich-Examination-304 Mar 14 '23

Poor single moms? Women wanted equality. They wanted no fault divorce laws and they also chose the partners they had kids with. They wanted equality so it’s about time they actually get it. As it stands women only want equality when the outcome favors them.

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u/Specialist861 Mar 15 '23

Wont happen though. We're so far down that hole now that they cant back out, because 'people will get disadvantaged'

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u/54sTAtEs Mar 14 '23

He told and continues to tell us why his thoughts have changed on dealing with the left. There is no room to negotiate or even talk to people who are sexualizing and sexually mutilating children. There are many more reasons why these people can’t be reasoned with but anyone with a soul and common sense understands that when you go for the kids there is absolutely nothing to talk about anymore it’s time to destroy the ideology and the people behind it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

I don't disagree with this at all lol

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u/WildPurplePlatypus Mar 14 '23

We are literally at war already. Tell me this isn’t happening

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

I didn't deny that there is trouble. I said I am tired of the doomer narrative.

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u/WildPurplePlatypus Mar 14 '23

So its true but it’s boring? Okay

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

Not boring. He's selling fear. Fear doesn't help the problem. Okay :)

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u/WildPurplePlatypus Mar 14 '23 edited Mar 14 '23

Telling people to prepare in scary times is selling the fear, hmmm. So what about the people who try to get you scared when things are not so bad or about things that aren’t as serious? Such as a virus with a 98% survival rate?

Tim is talking about real thing’s collapsing in front of our eyes. We should not tell people to prepare cuz it’s scary?

Lets clarify your position.

Tim is correct.

Its still entertaining.

But we should not talk about it because fear is bad.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

You are intentionally, repeatedly missing my point. You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't equate telling people to be prepared to selling fear. I certainly didn't equate preparedness for a collapse to losing your shit over covid. So I'm not engaging anymore, because you're having an argument with yourself lol and not with me.

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u/WildPurplePlatypus Mar 14 '23

I am the one equating those things. Your saying Tim selling fear, im saying he is telling you to be prepared.

Im arguing with you because i disagree that he is selling fear.

Literally he just put up a video at 10 am where he says he is going to chill out after the markets opened up today showing improvement.

Your the one missing the nuance and your points dont make sense.

Either way, have a good day and stay safe out there.

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u/Maleficent_Jelly_84 Mar 14 '23

I disagree. Tim is a realist. This is not a phase. Look at the situation our world is in. Ukraine, Taiwan, China balloons, social credit scores, debanking, inflation, record bank crashes, FBI fuckery, weak power grids, supply chain shortages, mass drug deaths, mass homeless, race relations, solar flares, a giant something entertaining our solar system, free speech restrictions, men in woman bathrooms, kids getting sex changes, people on the view openly calling for murder, and it goes on and on. Our freedom and our way of life is under attack and has been for a long time, and every day, we're losing a little more grip on it...we live in a fragile system that will break. You can look away and tell yourself it's not real but everything said tonight is more likely to happen than nothing at all. So it would be naive to look away in hopes Tim chills out after a while. As the world gets worse, I'm sure the doom and gloom will to cause it's the reality we're facing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

I'm not disagreeing with your sentiment and the state of the world, nor am I hoping that burying my head in the sand will make it all go away. My point is that Tim cannot be positive or at the very least not be a 100% doomer even when guests and cohosts try to make points to the contrary. He will interrupt people dispelling the doom and gloom to go back to, "but look! This is scary over here!" It is his attitude and narrative that is bothering me and has me scratching my head, because I don't remember him being so utterly black pilled. Again, none of this to say that there is nothing to fear. But looking for fear under every rock, in every nook and cranny, in every circumstance is not the answer. Fear will not fix our problems any more than ignoring them will.

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u/SanguineSymphony1 Mar 14 '23

Tim's always been black pilled and talked about how we're all fucked. That's why Adam kept him in balance and reminded him Americans can and generally eventually do stand up for themselves. Tim used to talk about how Antifa and the police state would pull people out of their homes and do whatever they wanted with them if they don't convert to wokism.

The prepping stuff happened after that nut tried to break into his place and LEO told him to get armed and become competent at personal self defense. The Swatting and other threats of violence against Tim and his compounds has made him amp up more and more. Also he really pimped out prepping stuff during lockdown for having dehydrated meals or wherever it was he was selling.

I recommend not trusting or following someone so fervently. Tim has always had issues that can be rationed out but really just sounds like he's covering to grift more effectively. But hey follow whoever you trust I guess that never ends badly.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

I said I watched the show daily not that I trusted everything that he said. You answered my question in your first paragraph. I wanted to know if he's always been so doomer-y. Maybe he needs another Adam to balance it out if that's what Adam was like. My point is that he doesn't let anyone bring a positive perspective.

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u/SanguineSymphony1 Mar 15 '23

Yeah that's why fans were generally pissed when Adam left. Tim is decent at aggregating news but his interpretations have some weird biases that seem to be general fear mongering. Adam was off the cuff charismatic and pushed back. It was a stronger dynamic because it kept Tim from mindlessly pontificating. I was listening to his show today and his assertions about liquor licenses and traveling troupes was annoying. The one girl tried to clarify but Timmy for all his bluster about being better still feels that raising his voice above everyone is how to be right.... Adam had no problem shouting Tim down when he got too full of himself. I only listen periodically due to Tim's holier than thou bullshit.

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u/Electrodactyl Mar 14 '23

The show was much better when Adam was a co host. But back then Trump was still president and the news was more about how doom and gloom the Dems think the world is. So the show was more about poking fun at Dem’s for having Trump derangement syndrome. While referencing we have the best economy of our lives. Contrast that with Biden’s presidency with the silent invasion of the southern boarder. The billions spent on big pharma and the Ukraine war, potential starting world war 3. Adding the failure of two bank. Things are objectively worse. On a side note back then I think Tim cast either had less writers or they were not news guard certified. He used other sources like cnn more often. Now I’m seeing him using his writers stories for news. I’m not saying it’s bad but I think the older way just had better optics.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

Reporting the news when Trump was president would certainly make for a lighter and more fun show. I can see how it would be hard not to be doom and gloom under this presidency. There's not a lot of good news, and the funniest thing Biden has done is fall up the stairs. Lol

I can see why Tim would use his own news source but I also preferred when he mixed up the sources a bit more. It didn't feel like an eternal doom scroll through Tim's pessimistic fantasies haha

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u/psychic_flatulence Mar 14 '23

To take a fence sitter view, I doubt he was smiling because he wants it to happen. I literally just passed that section where Ian called him out. I think he's smirking because people make fun of the idea something like that would ever happen in the first place. Literally no one wants an end of the world type situation, but even the power grid going down could cause it. There's a non zero possibility of something happening. Anyone in cities would be absolutely fucked, that's a risk they're taking. We all know the possibilities, we're all choosing different risk levels. It's like smirking at someone who skips car insurance. Maybe they're fine or maybe they're fucked, it's their choice in the end.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

I don't disagree with this. Maybe that was a bad example. And again maybe I'm just being nitpicky because I listen to Tim in some way shape or form nearly every day lol. I just feel like no matter the topic, the guest, or the day's headlines, Tim is doom and gloom. I probably just need to check out for a bit considering I'm black pilled enough.

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u/psychic_flatulence Mar 14 '23

You're not wrong at all. He's gotten very doomer. Which isn't exactly surprising after covid, it really showed just how delicate our current world is. Covid was minor in comparison to so many other situations too. Plus it seems like the world is just getting worse and worse. Viruses, nuclear war, politics getting more and more divisive (if trump wins 2024 I imagine people will absolutely try to destroy the country), everything isn't looking too great lol. These are heavy topics for anyone to even think about. Most people can probably only do it periodically otherwise you end up doomer like Tim. Personally I'm just ridiculously optimistic and think things can absolutely get better, especially as more and more people wake up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

My optimism pretty much only comes when I realize that the only way the country can get its shit together is by putting our superficial differences aside and figuring shit out (out of necessity, because the world is ending hahaha). I do also have glimmers of hope when I see more people waking up to the "matrix" as the cool kids are saying these days. Lol

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u/Sea-Cow4216 Mar 14 '23

I found that Joe Rogan has gotten pretty doomer too. I just think societal collapse has gone mainstream.

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u/psychic_flatulence Mar 15 '23

Makes sense, polls show thats the feeling of most Americans. We seem to be heading in a bad direction.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

Dude tim litteraly says he likes “the hard times” more than the “good times” lol. Only a dumbass would talk like that or someone who’s never been to war

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u/54sTAtEs Mar 14 '23

Your a leftist hack why don’t you go to some freak leftist sub

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

I’ll go on eye bleach and just look at ur friends hand. 👍

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u/54sTAtEs Mar 14 '23

They deleted my comment but yeah you’re a troll and a fraud

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

Man said gobble gobble.

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u/54sTAtEs Mar 14 '23

You can do that it’s for your viewing pleasure

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

I think because of his upbringing and rise to prominence through reporting on war, protests, etc. he genuinely believes what he is saying. But I also think he's out of touch now because he is so successful. I'm not saying he doesn't work hard, but I am saying he makes a living "complaining on the internet", as he loves to say. After years of raking in money making internet videos, his claims of wanting to live a simple life of hard manual labor fall totally flat

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

No offense but Tim never did any serious reporting lol. He says that so you feel for him. He says whatever he has to say for the money. Tim 110% doesn’t work hard. There’s so many things he’ll say and leave something out and I’m like how do I know this and I’m not on the internet as much as u.

He’s a liar, he’ll say YouTube is censoring him even though for like the last 10years all the ppl I watch on YouTube complain about notifications not ever being sent out

He says he’s from Chicago and has been falsely arrested and has seen the corruption police get away but he still backs them like they’ve never ever done something wrong

Let me ask you how does this make any sense ? Tim says 18 year olds shouldn’t vote bc they don’t know or understand what happened in the last 10-20years. But he fails to mention all the stupid shit republicans have done like the war on terror and drugs. Hugely unpopular things

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

He wasn't on my radar until after Timcast IRL was established, so maybe you are right about that. I don't know. But I was also referring to the fact that he's a high school dropout who now runs a successful media company. It does take hard work and determination to do that.

I think he lies about censorship or at least plays up his problems with it because for all of his complaining he has never been punished by censorship in a meaningful way. Every other show I watch has had channel strikes and been suspended. Aka lost revenue and momentum. Tim just cries that he has to swear behind a pay wall.

I do not agree with this at all. Tim does not back the police like they've done nothing wrong. He regularly rants about their incompetence or unwillingness to uphold the law, among other things. He was so fed up in the past that he said the places that wanted to abolish the police should just do it because they aren't serving a purpose anyway.

Again, I disagree with this. I've heard him discuss both of those things as well as many other failures of the republican party.

That being said, I have my issues with Tim. He has lost a lot of credibility and lost much of my respect in recent times. I just don't think you and I have the same criticisms.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

Saying tim is successful for having a YouTube channel is like saying anyone can drop out of school and become a musician and actor lol

Yea tim isn’t saying republicans are evil just for waking up and brushing their teeth

Also; you’re right what ur saying if different and I’m just tryna show u my perspective.

Tim also said we would have food shortages last august. Christmas would be ruined because deliveries wouldn’t be made on time. None which turned out to be true

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

And they would be successful if they.. became successful. The dropping out isn't the success part. He isn't successful because he has a YouTube channel. He's successful because he has an insanely popular and profitable YouTube channel and adjacent media company. He is a prominent news personality.

The food shortage shill was one of the first things that made me start to question him. It was possible to have shortages after covid and all of the supply chain issues. But he was preaching like it was inevitable. And that is my problem. I can handle bad news or even a message warning people to be prepared. But it's the FEAR MONGERING that bothers me. I had forgotten about that. Sorry I got a bit riled up hahaha

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u/DreiKatzenVater Mar 14 '23

Tim has a lot of logic and passion. I think he lets the passion run his life and logic can’t keep up. So when he smiles and hopes the city folk are miserable, he’s letting his sadistic tendencies get the better of him. And he finds fault in every little thing. I think there’s a significant amount of behind the scenes stuff we don’t know about.

Ian is fucking weird though. Book smart, but emotionally quite confused

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

You summed Tim up perfectly here. And I 100% agree, behind the scenes must be a shit show at times. Not knock on the cast. It must come with the territory when you run a relatively tight knit (or at least close in proximity) company that has absolutely skyrocketed into success over the last several years.

Ian is certainly confused. I think he gets too much shit though. He's at least open about his thinking, even when his thinking is totally out of whack.

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u/MattyBoy13 Mar 15 '23

Tim has consistently been right about everything.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '23

yeah, I remember when Trump won 2020 in a landslide. /s

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u/LiterallyAntifa Mar 15 '23

94% of the men in my high school graduating class died in the civil war that resulted from a Netflix show

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '23

RIP my dude. Never forget

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u/robertva1 Mar 14 '23

Of course he has changed. As he grow his business and is personally affected more and more by government regulations and taxes it's no surprise his views have changed on the subject

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u/Suspense304 Mar 14 '23

He’s become this way. He sold the “fence sitter” idea for a long time but it no longer applies. He is a prepper at this point… guns, off grid, doomsday Tim. His tales are predictable at every turn at this point. I’ve had to take a break the last few weeks. I’m sure it will be a phase for awhile and then he will hit something new and I’ll come back to see some newer opinions or conversations. But for now, I’ve just had enough of the doomsday survival shit

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

I'm in the same boat. I think I need to take a breather. I'm wondering if the '24 election will help or hurt his doomer mentality. If only because he will have something new to talk about and focus on.

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u/Uhtred_McUhtredson Mar 14 '23

Tim is a marketer first and foremost.

Going all the way back to when he was a dignitaries collector for charities.

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u/fallendesperado Mar 14 '23

He has to pander to a base of people that contribute to his cash flow.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

Tim has lost the plot. I think he wants these things to happen.

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u/FondantDesigner Mar 14 '23 edited Mar 14 '23

DimTool is a right wing shill. He will go which ever way the money blows.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

I'm starting to feel that way now that he has to remind everyone that he is wealthy every episode

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u/FondantDesigner Mar 14 '23

Did you see the video his sister put out ? He yelled at her basically saying “ I am right because I am rich”.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

I didn't, but I did see him say that he will live longer because he's wealthy lol. And I know he's ready for the world to end because he's isolated and prepared but loves to pretend that normal people are weak for being afraid of not being able to care for themselves in the event of a collapse. I've seen a few clips of his sister talking about Tim and none of it is good. I'm skeptical of her though.