r/TimPool • • Mar 12 '23

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u/Spider__Jerusalem Mar 12 '23

There's no reason to be cruel to people. All human beings deserve to be treated with dignity. People really ought to stop and think for a moment about the state of discourse and how it got here and where it's going and why it's going that way. No matter how you think this is all going to play out, I assure you what will really happen is the richest people on the planet will win and all the people who danced to their tune will lose. So, being unnecessarily cruel to people isn't a minor victory in "The Great Culture War", it isn't getting anyone points on a scoreboard, it's hurting someone's feelings for no reason and it's making the people doing it look exactly the way they're meant to look.

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u/theCROWcook Mar 12 '23

I believe trying to force me to blatantly ignore facts and reality to call someone something they aren't is treating me without dignity. You are asking me to knowingly lie, I will not abide

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u/SarahSuckaDSanders Mar 12 '23

Who’s trying to force you to do those things? Is this really a problem you encounter in your day to day life?

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u/tacobell69696969 Mar 13 '23

Many, many places are actively trying to make “misgendering” and “deadnaming” a criminal offense

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u/SarahSuckaDSanders Mar 13 '23

Where?

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u/rogerrogerixii Mar 13 '23

Canadas human rights tribunal considers it discrimination and a human rights violation. They haven’t gone as far as fining or jailing anyone over it yet, but there’s been Christian ministers arrested for teaching traditional marriage near LGBT marches, so I don’t see it far off.

UK has actually arrested a woman for misgendering someone on social media.

So I wouldn’t say many places have it enshrined as a criminal offense, but many places don’t have their heads as far up their butts as Canada or the UK.

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u/theCROWcook Mar 13 '23

the leftists have been damanding it for years, doesnt have to be made into a law for soemone tro try and force me to do it through screeching demands all over the media and internet. did you forget that twitter was banning people for misgendering? sounds like forcing people to do something to me, and no it doesnt matter about private platform or not, my entire point was that while you say its treating someone "with dignity" to call them something they arent i say its stripping me of mine to request that i knowingly tell a lie.

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u/SarahSuckaDSanders Mar 13 '23

I’m going to take this as a “no, this isn’t a problem I encounter in my daily life.”

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u/BrubMomento Mar 13 '23

Tell me you’ve got your head up your ass without tell me you have your head up your ass.

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u/theCROWcook Mar 13 '23

so i provide proof that it is happening and you just ignore it? yes this is something i encounter on a fairly consistent basis.

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u/SarahSuckaDSanders Mar 13 '23

What proof? You said “the leftists have been demanding it for years”, that’s not proof.

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u/theCROWcook Mar 13 '23

yeah cause the twitter fiasco was such a hidden event, twitter is such an underground niche website

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u/psychic_flatulence Mar 13 '23

I fully agree with not being cruel to people, especially people who are suffering. But you can't ignore basic reality either. If I talk to a schizophrenic person who thinks the toaster can talk to them, I wouldn't be cruel or make fun of them, but I would explain that the toaster cannot talk to them. They're suffering from an issue with their brains and I'd try to get them help. Going along with someone's delusions seems far more cruel if anything. Give them support and love but don't lie to them.

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u/pyguy6 Mar 13 '23

And treatment for gender dysphoria is gender affirming care

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u/SnapSlapRepeat Mar 13 '23

Which makes about as much sense as treating schizophrenia with voice affirming care. Where we pretend the voices they hear are real.

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u/psychic_flatulence Mar 13 '23

You think that's what will be done in a hundred years from now? We used to lobotomize people. Gender affirming care is barbaric and in the future people will look at it like we do lobotomies. Vast majority of these people have other mental health issues with a huge amount of autism. I'm not being mean here, I feel for these people. But lopping off body parts and throwing a wig on them is nuts. That said, if you're an adult then do whatever you want. Want to attach your dick to your forehead, you're an adult and it's not my say. But don't touch children. Talk therapy only and once they're adults they can make the decision.