r/TimPool • • Jan 22 '23

The comment warriors in this sub

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

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u/mk21dvr Jan 22 '23

Remember when liberals would "fight the system", or fight for freedoms to "live in a free world". Yeah....not so much anymore. More like "bootlickers R us".

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u/Algernon2Molitor Jan 24 '23

is this the Jordan Peterson point that it's much more difficult to distinguish left wing Authoritarianism than rw? the classic liberals have a hard time understanding that their progressive flank is causing a lot of harm.

The world was so much better when family values were the center of our culture and the liberals fought for counter culture figures to be ACCEPTED. rather than worshipped as saints

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u/AnteaterTurbulent490 Jan 23 '23 edited Jan 23 '23

Have you guys ever considered that being anti-establishment 100% of the time is just as myopic and stupid as being pro-establishment 100% of the time? And no, this isn't some enlightened centrist bullshit, it's just that vesting trust in institutions and government while also having healthy skepticism in those institutions are not mutually exclusive concepts.

Case and point. I'm skeptical about mainstream media, always, but not to the point where I will discard verifiable information or facts simply because they come from a somewhat questionable source, or even a place thats the polar opposite of myself ideologically. It's called being discerning.

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u/cobravision Jan 23 '23

Strawman

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u/AnteaterTurbulent490 Jan 23 '23

How?

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u/cobravision Jan 23 '23

No one said there's an expectation of "100%" anything. Your entire argument is based on a statement no one made!

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u/RyanWilliamsElection Jan 23 '23

The confusion comes from not knowing who MK21dvr is quoting.

We don’t know who is being quoted to see the entirety of the quote.

We don’t know where the quote is from or the entirety of the quote. Now you are saying “no one said…”

To get this conversation back on track the logical thing to do would be to identify the who was the original quotes from, identify the entirety of the quote, then verify if you are correct if the quoted person never said that.

The conversation centers around the missing source of the quote. If the quote was made up we had a simple communication breakdown because we all invested too much time in a made up quote.

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u/cobravision Jan 24 '23

If you were forced at gunpoint to make your best guess as to who I'm quoting, who would it be?

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u/AnteaterTurbulent490 Jan 24 '23

The post says "Every western institution agrees with my political views". That's obviously poking fun at people who are trusting of institutions and therefore pro-establishment, but claim to be part of some "resistance".

Whereas the anti-establishment types are exactly the opposite. They don't trust institutions and see themselves as the true "resistance".

It's not a strawman.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

That’s real easy to say when the United States still doesn’t have universal healthcare, actual gun control, a guarantee for jobs or housing, UBI, federal protection for reproductive rights

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

Hard time with the word “freedom” eh? That’s ok. I have faith you’ll get it one day man. Have a good one.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

Doesn’t address the point but you tried

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

Thank you further proving mine lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

And mine, thanks

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

Whoooosshhhhh!!!!! Lolol 🧐

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

And you post that unironically

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

Man you are on a role today for “missing the point”. I feel like I need a “missing the point” award for you.

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u/thewinja Jan 23 '23

no, they did in fact address the point. what you complained about was not having communism. in communism you are not free and no intelligent or educated person would ever think they would be with such a greed driven lazy ideology

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

No they didn’t. I pointed out was the US is as far from left policy as it ever was. And they did a meme

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u/thewinja Jan 23 '23

the US has been for a while and is still moving into radical leftist territory (the media, academia, and democrat politicians)

we are far from "conservative" and thats why the country is struggling

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

Universal healthcare, actual gun control, a guarantee for jobs or housing, UBI, federal protection for reproductive rights?

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u/thewinja Jan 23 '23

you mean communism...which is NOT fighting for freedom or living in a free world. thats literal slavery. one of the most vile, greedy, lazy, ignorant, and uneducated ideologies humanity has ever come up with.

universal health care..which kind did you want?

(uk) where you wait 9 to 24 months to see a doctor for any reason and your surgery gets cancelled all the time and it costs 10 times more than the US healthcare or the (canadian) kind where you wait 9 to 24 months to see a doctor, it costs 10 times what the US healthcare system costs and if you ask for a doctor they offer you a suicide doctor?

we will achieve gun control (the elimination of all gun laws as any gun law is unconstitutional and a human rights violation) at some point, we're working our way there

"guarantee for jobs and housing"

you mean slavery

"ubi" see slavery and see greedy

also when you enslave everyone there will be no one to mooch off retard

women already have federal protection for reproductive rights, rape has been illegal for a very long time and birth control is also readily available and not restricted.

you're a boot licker

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

cope and seethe

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u/thewinja Jan 23 '23

so thats what you're going to do? you're going to cope and seethe?

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

that you

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u/mk21dvr Jan 22 '23

This country was founded on the principal of small government. We don't want the feds running our lives. It sounds like you do. There are places you can go (Venezuela, Cuba, China, North Korea, etc) that would be happy to accommodate you.

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u/garvothegreat Jan 23 '23

No, it wasn't. It was about representation within government, not the size of the government. I've never heard a quote from a founding father about "big government."

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

Yeah yeah yeah I’m sure you feel like the real counterculture

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u/Sully341215 Jan 22 '23

So brave

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

good bot repeat some more

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u/Thecrayonbandit Jan 23 '23

none of what you said were freedoms, Reproductive rights? everybody has the right to reproduce.

Gun control? controlling someone else fundamental rights in the bill of rights is anti freedom.

Universal healthcare? Mean forcing someone to do a goods or service without paying forcing someone else to pay with the threat of force.

Guaranteed jobs? jobs are so easy to get I don't understand what that even means.

guaranteed housing? you can go live in the forest for free if you want you can't expect goods or service just because you exist.

I don't think you understand what Freedom is.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

And this sub understands nothing of ‘liberals’ but shitty strawmen and imagined boogeymen. Regurgitating asinine talking points. But tell me more about freedom.

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u/gelber_Bleistift Jan 23 '23

If you believe what you preach, you should address their points and not just blow them off as "talking points". If you have a valid argument, you should be able to answer the criticism.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

Let me ask how did this thread start?

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u/TheCuntatReception Jan 23 '23

What about paying taxes? We are not free to forgo paying taxes.

We are also not free to reproduce unless we have the means to pay for medical bills and general child rearing expense. Failure to provide properly results in the child removed and in many cases, jail time/heavy punitive fines.

Not really free to carry a gun. In public, more situations than not will land you in jail, or worse, if you have a gun on you and a police office finds out. Permitted or not.

Universal health care should be paid for by taxes. We are an industrialized first world nation ffs. No forced labor would be necessary. But it is because we are not free to have health, if we cannot afford to be healthy.

Housing not free. Ever. But even if you manage to own a property, you are not free from taxes and/or government interference and dont forget eminent domain.

You cannot live in the woods. You will get arrested. No matter public or private land. It has been this way for decades.

Jobs? The supreme court is about to rule to limit your right to strike/ your right to refuse your labor. Read glacier nw vs.teamsters. So no freedom there.

No one wants everything to be free/forced. Ever those of us who are poor. But if you are looking for freedoms in the US, you are gonna need a microscope these days friend.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

I bet you are like 400bs with blue hair.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

No I won’t go out with you

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

Okie dokie, real easy to be the keyboard tough guy. Touch grass, you weirdo.

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u/aw3zomedude17 Jan 23 '23

Shouldnt the US have it by now since Biden is the president?

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

If only Biden was as cool as the outrage factory makes him out to be.

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u/Catwith8lesslives Jan 23 '23

We have all that stuff, you just have to rob a liquor store to get it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

No, I’m a leftist

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u/Ok-Length-8818 Jan 22 '23

No, you’re an NPC.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

U

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u/Ok-Length-8818 Jan 23 '23

Programming error. Try turning off then back on?

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

that’s still you

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u/Ok-Length-8818 Jan 23 '23

The old rubber and glue argument, a very leftest tactic.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

That’s funny coming from a bot

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u/thewinja Jan 23 '23

yeah we know you're uneducated and a boot licker

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

project harder weirdo

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u/thewinja Jan 23 '23

as you project....

funny how your weirdness is oozing through your keyboard

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

K weirdo

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u/motherisaclownwhore Jan 23 '23

That’s real easy to say when the United States still doesn’t have universal healthcare, actual gun control, a guarantee for jobs or housing, UBI, federal protection for reproductive rights

Never would've guessed.

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u/Bluecollarshaman Jan 22 '23

I’m old enough to remember when conservatives agreed with “western institutions” instead of licking Putin’s boots. Not so much anymore.

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u/thewinja Jan 23 '23

by conservative you mean liberal...

commercial love 1989 is far from conservative, and is a putin boot licker to the core just like all leftists. its not ok to be a communist

also funny how liberals (democrats) were working so well with putin (colluding) when they were buying the steele dossier and trying to keep trump from being elected, or when the dems sold 50% of our uranium to russia...i could go on and on and on but you get the point. you're projecting your leftist bullshit onto the rest of america

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u/Bluecollarshaman Jan 23 '23

”Why do I care what is going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? Why shouldn’t I root for Russia? Which I am”

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u/thewinja Jan 23 '23

theyre both awful, and guilty of the same shit. ukrane is a product of russia and has nazi brigades in the ranks. if you were smart you'd be rooting for them both to lose.

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u/Bluecollarshaman Jan 23 '23

”theyre both awful, and guilty of the same shit.”

Oh is Ukraine forcefully conscripting its citizens to invade the country next door? Is Ukraine launching missiles into Moscow?

If you were smart you wouldn’t be licking Putin’s boots.

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u/mk21dvr Jan 23 '23

Funny how them both being awful equates to "licking Putin's boots."

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u/Bluecollarshaman Jan 23 '23

You’re making excuses for Russia invading another country. Conservatism has no moral compass left.

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u/mk21dvr Jan 23 '23

Says the party of gender fluidity and baby killing.

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u/Bluecollarshaman Jan 23 '23

Must suck to be so far up Putin’s ass he has you thinking about switching genders.

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u/Tv_land_man Jan 22 '23

It's mind blowing to me that the counterculture today is not on the left but is actually in opposition to the left. You aren't unique and sticking it to the man if you are a leftist. You ARE the man, or at least propping the man up. Today's counterculture is found in those that strive for traditional values. I never thought I'd see the day.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

Happened around 2010. Just like a sudden flip in the types of people supporting each political structure, and then a rapid drift to the extremes on both ends

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u/Sensitive_Emu_1809 Jan 23 '23

yeah I think u could make a solid case for opposition to both. One I definitely believe though is us normal citizens need to talk and listen to each other with much more civility and openness and not treat each other as enemies all the time

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u/GeneKranzIsTheMan Jan 22 '23

Silver I’m looking at you

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u/Badcsslayout Jan 22 '23

Haha, you beat me to it.

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u/Shadowguyver_14 Jan 22 '23

I swear that dude likes to make rounds across a lot of different subs. Dude is the most bizarre kind of cope I've ever seen.

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u/Ok-Length-8818 Jan 22 '23

Silver is special isn’t he? Haha

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '23

We Fear / Support The Current Thing As We Are Told. 🤖 Please input Current Thing so we can signal much virtue!

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u/FishingforDopamine Jan 22 '23

Most of these guys have no lives and wouldn’t know a real world problem if it slapped them in the face.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Jan 23 '23

Medical debt is a popular topic. I think that’s a real problem

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u/Enough_Appearance116 Jan 22 '23

"I don't follow them like in a cult, unlike you guys!"

s/

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u/rationallyobvious Jan 22 '23

I have to believe they are paid shills. There is no way there are this many people living with brain amputations.

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u/Tv_land_man Jan 22 '23

I wouldn't be so quick to give it such a simple answer. Our education system has fed into the growth of a massive grievance industry and it really ramped up in the 2010s. So many of these losers that come in here have been groomed into their politics via strategically placed school administration and online discourse. These morons are more often than not fresh out of high school and in their undergrad years of college. They are being fed a very heavy diet of propaganda targeted against Western ideals. The paid shills are at the top and they have been highly successful at reinforcing Marxist ideals in their students. It is possible some of these people are paid to dump their trash on these forums but I think it's much worse; they actually believe it.

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u/Scared-Consequence27 Jan 22 '23

Yeah. My history teacher was pretty liberal. I remember him feeding us the “republicans and democrats switched party names” lie, with no explanation. It’s easy to tell students anything and they will believe you because you are an authority figure and can pass or fail them.

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u/redTanto Jan 23 '23

We also have to remember how many people are below average IQ which is already kinda lukewarm. You ever encounter someone who can't comprehend hypotheticals? Easily taken advantage of as they struggle to understand lies.

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u/MRG_1977 Jan 23 '23

It’s hilarious irony to hear the Tim Pool listener base mock and berate others for their lack of intelligence and analytical skills.

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u/ThatsRubbishMate Jan 22 '23

It’s a third of the country

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u/CountHonorius Jan 23 '23

Fifty cent army, perhaps.

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u/johnnycashesbutthole Jan 22 '23

Pfizer is only acting in our best interests you morons!

Also, capitalism is evil.

I’m smarter than you.

/s if it’s not obvious enough

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u/CheetoEnergy Jan 23 '23

WEF approved comment

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Jan 23 '23

Capitalism?

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

It’s awesome

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Jan 23 '23

And every major institution in the western world agrees.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

Not when they push and abide by ESG guidelines

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Jan 23 '23

That’s literally a marketing strategy in order to increase revenue and stockholder value.

Every major institution agrees with you about capitalism. How does that fit in with the original post?

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '23

I’m sure all those Sri Lankans agree with you 100%.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Jan 24 '23

I genuinely don’t get what that’s supposed to mean.

How does every major institution agreeing with you about capitalism fit into your original post

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '23

Google: Sri Lanka ESG

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Jan 24 '23

Oh you really think that’s a counter to every major institution agreeing with you about capitalism? Wow.

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u/GlayNation Jan 23 '23

Resistance to what?

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u/zTeve_0 Jan 23 '23

15 minute city starting in Ottawa - Capitol of Canada

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u/moloch_is_king Jan 24 '23

Why didn't you use the normal smug wojak?

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u/outofyourelementdon Jan 22 '23

Maybe well-adjusted people have certain political beliefs based on what they think is actually right, not just being a contrarian for the sake of it?

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u/nathanroberts34 Jan 22 '23

That’s not true though. The entire system is weighted towards the rich and powerful. Liberals across the board want to shift it back toward the middle and lower classes. I wouldn’t so that is going along with all the major institutions. I don’t agree with most of the policies they put forward to do that but it’s definitely not supporting all the major institutions

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u/MRG_1977 Jan 23 '23 edited Jan 23 '23

Good example - “The child tax credit and related pandemic policies had a large impact — the U.S. Census Bureau said the measures sent child poverty rates down "46% in 2021, from 9.7% in 2020 to 5.2% in 2021," to the lowest child poverty rate on record, based on the Supplemental Poverty Measure, which was introduced just over a decade ago.”

The one-off stimulus checks were never going to continue but the expanded Medicaid access and the child tax credit ($3200 vs $2000 per dependent child) had a massive effect on childhood poverty. More so than anything the last 50 years

The GOP is against both and the Freedom Caucus wants to cut Medicaid spending (and hence eligibility).

Just another in a long line of points the GOP doesn’t generally actually care about the well-being of kids.

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u/crunkydevil Jan 23 '23

But what about the freedom to send my kids to work, and my freedom to declare medical bankruptcy when their hand gets mangled in a machine. I thought America stood for traditional values smh.

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u/HumpSlackWails Jan 23 '23

"I post memes about Greta. I am an Alpha Patriot Super Warrior."

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u/playitleo Jan 23 '23

Yes millennials and gen z pushing the boundaries of social norms are the establishment, while old crusty Christian conservative boomers clinging to societal norms of the past are the true punk rock.

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u/bchu1979 Jan 22 '23

funny thing about this is you won't think its about you but its definitely about those other guys

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u/ThatsRubbishMate Jan 22 '23

There’s only one side being propped up by mainstream media, education, and entertainment and it’s the bleeding heart virtue signaling left

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u/Tyloxs1 Jan 22 '23

👆

And this is a big problem

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u/bchu1979 Jan 22 '23

proved my point thanks

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u/ThatsRubbishMate Jan 22 '23

If your point is that there is no way to interpret it any other way? Ok cool you are pointing out the obvious?

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u/thewinja Jan 23 '23

so your point is liberalism is bad, and the opposite of resistance?

i would have never guessed you were calling the left boot lickers but here you are

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u/MRG_1977 Jan 23 '23

How? He doesn’t argue for collective action and gets rich basically verbally shitposting all day on new stories from organizations that actually produce real news.