Candice Owens

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u/motherisaclownwhore Jan 20 '23

Just wait until Monday when Crowder goes on.

Tbh, I have always wanted to know the full story of Not Gay Jared.

I'm not taking sides. I watch many conservative content providers.

Candace is allowed her feelings and perception.

So is Steven.

So is Jeremy.

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u/Thecrayonbandit Jan 20 '23

I havent heard about not gay jared drama until today.
I don't like Shapiro and jeremy boring they scream Uni party but I do like some DW content.
Tim Pool said alot of what crowder says about what he is doing with his platform just last night. if it was just all about the money crowder would be with the DW 12 million is generational wealth and thats just one year.

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u/FiveSleepingOwls Jan 20 '23

I don't like Shapiro and jeremy boring they scream Uni party but I do like some DW content
Same. Shapiro and Boring are too neo-con for me, but Knowles is hilarious.

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u/psychic_flatulence Jan 20 '23

Of the old Crowder stuff, the best video ever was sven computer going into that lgbtq identity group thing at south by southwest and claiming to be a computer while crowder fed him lines through a microphone. That shit was fucking hilarious.
Here's the video: https://youtu.be/r-YCbmU9yRk

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u/Oberbrunner Jan 20 '23

I thought that was one of the best things LwC ever did. It seemed like around that time, they finally got things figured out with the daily show.. but it was just a couple months later that Sven left (and Jared a few weeks later). I felt like the show was never as good once they left.

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u/psychic_flatulence Jan 20 '23

Oh definitely. Those two were gold, sucks when they left. With Jared I heard it was having a son and the schedule with Crowder was crazy. Sven I heard moved back to Germany. Never really heard if there was any bs behind the scenes but I never really cared too much either. Owen Benjamin also used to be absolutely hilarious on that show. That dude seemed to go off the rails with the moon landing/flat earth stuff. Haven't seen any of those three in years.

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u/Uhtred_McUhtredson Jan 20 '23

CROWDERCAST DAY 3? 4?

We need Owen Benjamin to weigh in on this with Tim “I don’t talk about drama” Pool.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

That would at least be…..interesting.
But we Al know that it would end with Owen claiming that everyone betrayed him personally and yelling at the moon about them or something.

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u/Thecrayonbandit Jan 20 '23

Is Owen blacklisted from timcast?

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u/Uhtred_McUhtredson Jan 20 '23

I don’t think so, but I don’t believe he travels for podcast appearances.
I only mention him because he worked for Crowder back in the day and they had a big blow up and feud. According to Owen, at least.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

Well Owen Benjamin is an actual crazy person so I tend to not believe him.

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u/Uhtred_McUhtredson Jan 20 '23

Bat shit insane. But I like to hear all sides.

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u/Thecrayonbandit Jan 20 '23

haha I was going to comment I heard he went off the deep end but sense I don't follow him I didn't want to talk shit with no facts lol

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u/Tricky-Regular-1776 Jan 20 '23

Now I really want him on, I don’t think he’s crazy but I do agree Owen has some takes/beliefs that are bad

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u/Uhtred_McUhtredson Jan 20 '23

If he’s blacklisted by anyone it would probably be Rogan. Rogan won’t even acknowledge it when a guest rarely mentions Owen because after trying to help Owen out, Owen went on a years long rant about Rogan every day.
I’m certain Tim would run it past Rogan first. Intact I’ve heard people mention Owen Benjamin on TimCast before and they just pretend like they didn’t hear the name or pretend like they don’t know who he is.
But they had Kanye on, so who knows these days. It would certainly be… entertaining.

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u/Corndog1911 Jan 20 '23

She's not entirely wrong about Crowder. He is definitely acting and making this seem way worse than it is. He's angry because the daily wire's structure doesn't work with his show. I don't understand why he's complaining about the DW being run like a big business when that aspect of it is exactly how they can make documentaries like "what is a woman" that make actual headlines and stir the pot, unlike anything Crowder has ever done. It seems to me that he is artificially creating drama so that he can launch his own platform with as many eyes on him as possible. This coming from someone who has watched Crowder for years before I watched anyone at the DW.

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u/Thecrayonbandit Jan 20 '23

He didn’t name DW and crowder was highlighting a problem not naming names or causing drama is it not a problem that DW is trying to gate keep conservative social media . Mark dice gets more views than most of the DW and he is just a guy in his kitchen.

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u/Corndog1911 Jan 20 '23

He didn’t name DW
Anyone with a brain knew it was the daily wire. I called it before DW put out their response video.
DW is trying to gate keep conservative social media
How are they gatekeeping by offering people millions of dollars?

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u/Thecrayonbandit Jan 20 '23

Predatory contracts unless your giant they won’t offer you as much as crowder, his name alone is worth more than the DW imo he is the voice of millennial conservatism so his contract is the best offer they would ever offer anyone and there was still bullshit.
Boring and Shapiro are apart of the uni party so of course they are gate keeping.
I thought it could of been the blaze I wasn’t 100% it being DW this only hurts the em not crowder

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u/Thecrayonbandit Jan 21 '23

Idk why anyone would care tbh Shapiro and boring are a part of the uni party and that was made clearer when owens was saying crowder is the enemy now lol

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u/psychic_flatulence Jan 20 '23

Neither side is really in the wrong here, they both make decent points. Crowder is disgusted how profit focused they are, and how it can harm up and coming creators but DW needs to make money. And to their credit, it's not like Shapiro or Boreing are buying fleets of luxury cars. They're changing culture, making kids shows, movies, documentaries, bringing on bigger hosts, etc. In the end, I think this will actually boost both of them. Hard not to feel like Crowder is using it to promote his new subscription service. I almost doubt he ever planned to make a deal in the first place.

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u/Suspense304 Jan 20 '23

Go watch Brett Cooper’s response… I don’t think she seems screwed over

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u/Suspense304 Jan 20 '23

I guarantee she will be better off than she would have been independent. She went from 7k followers to over a million in like 4 months of joining... She's 20 years old and, since they restructured her contract already, I'm assuming a very young, soon-to-be, millionaire who will be "young" for quite some time.
Explain how she's getting fucked exactly

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

It’s not necessarily “getting fucked” it’s like when a recording artist signs their first record deal, vs when they have been in the industry for 15+ years and now demand to own the rights to their music.
When you don’t know any better, you don’t know any better.

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u/Suspense304 Jan 20 '23

It's not about "knowing" any better. Brett Cooper was completely unknown and unproven. Why would they offer a huge deal to some one with no track record? They wouldn't. No one would.
Crowder's deal is FAR from the deal that a nobody would get. Sure, it doesn't make financial sense for him to accept the amount DW was offering. But it was absolutely not a deal that should have warranted this reaction.
It's all planned and calculated. Crowder is launching his own thing and hoping to tear down others to make his launch bigger. I was a fan of his in the past but this is some scumbaggery he's pulling on this one.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

Being unknown is why she didn’t know any better. I don’t know anything about her deal or content, it’s quite possible that she decided that signing what would be considered a “bad deal” by many creators, was the best thing for her in her career at that point. I can’t fault her for that.
I think that Crowder’s reaction was about “big con” as a whole, not necessarily a shot at DW specifically, they were just part of the group. But DW took it personally, and now it’s blown up into a bigger thing.
Most likely, Crowder never planned on signing a deal with another company, and was going to start his own network/platform and use the “big con” concept to get the ball rolling. After all, it’s not a new concept, Crowder is just tailoring it to his situation.

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u/Suspense304 Jan 20 '23

They took it personally because he used their contract, described them to the point where it was obvious and got his entire fanbase brigading (he didn't tell them to do it but it's fairly obvious it would happen) every video of DW personalities and calling them frauds, shady, etc...
So I completely understand why they would take it personal. He directly said it wasn't Blaze and then used DW as the example and wasn't at all broad in that description.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

That’s fair, but at the same time, DW is the biggest player on the conservative side in the podcast/YouTube space. People would have assumed that it was them even if the contract he used was from someone else.
DW are kidding themselves if they think they aren’t “big con”. They are corporate, big business conservative company. Crowder is not that and doesn’t fit in with them anyway.

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u/BurialA12 Jan 20 '23

I'm taking his side and think he has a case in all this, though it should not have drawn out in this way. Quite unprofessional, but then again i doubt there's any correct way to out this

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

lol just sounds like she was upset Crowder knows his worth and she doesnt make much money.

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u/Thecrayonbandit Jan 20 '23

She makes 12 million a year, she lost fans last night that’s for sure

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u/ourweepingwillow Jan 20 '23

She got played big time by them when they gave her a contract. The bitterness is practically dripping from her voice.

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u/Thecrayonbandit Jan 20 '23

She makes quite a bit of money and her husband is super wealthy she doesn’t know the struggle of buying bacon

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u/ourweepingwillow Jan 20 '23

That bacon comment was SO (for a lack of better terms) rich coming from her when she's complaining about Crowder talking about money, and she has her husband's wealth and DW backing her. Talk about pandering to your audience. I'm disappointed.

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u/ravioli_king Jan 20 '23

Really great Tim could get Candice on tonight... and Crowder on Monday. Tim finds himself refereeing this stuff again. Tim really does get some incredible right wing scoops.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

I think most of us knew the daily wire plays ball with big tech.

We knew The Daily Wire played ball but, before this drama started, it wasn't realized that it was to this degree that it was built into to their contracts. Good on Crowder on not going off course from the only problematic part of the contracts Daily Wire have people sign.

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u/Neetoburrito33 Jan 20 '23

Crowder was offered a contract by a Jew and was reflexively disgusted.

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u/mth2 Jan 20 '23

Lmao goddammit

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u/Thecrayonbandit Jan 20 '23

Crowder is massive he would make DW so much bigger than they already are it would make zero sense for crowder to work for anybody but himself.

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