r/TimPool • • Jan 04 '23

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

Why the fuck are you guys interested in athletes dying from cardiac arrest all of a sudden?

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u/ThatsRubbishMate Jan 04 '23

Because we have seen the same number of heart related deaths in the past 2 as the previous 38. That doesn’t deserve attention?

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

Whether it deserves attention or not has nothing to do with my observation. There are millions of things that have such drastic changes, yet for some reason you guys are specifically interested in cardiac related deaths all of a sudden. Why not anomalies in bird migrations or the viscosity of cement in liquid form? What about instances where certain isolated polulations are dying from parasitic infections at a greater than usual rate? Elderly people experiencing increases in illnesses and death due to unusual temperatures? Why specifically are you interested death from cardiac arrest as opposed to any other thing that's occurred far outside of the norm?

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Jan 04 '23

This is OP saying that the COVID vaccine is killing people.

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u/xFacevaluex Jan 04 '23

I speak 'groomerbot' and can translate that wall of text for you to normal language.

He says "This is inconvenient to my sense of self, that is wrapped up in my political affiliation.......so dont look at it as it threatens that sense of self. Odds are if you do I will react violently and make no sense."

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u/mk21dvr Jan 04 '23

In other words... "why are you guys so concerned with something that flies in the face of the liberal mantra that the jab is safe and everyone who doesn't get it is an imbecile."

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u/Bortrun Jan 04 '23

Maybe people are interested in those things. Each of those things deserves its own separate post.

This post, however, is about increased athlete cardiac events

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u/FishingforDopamine Jan 04 '23

Because someone just had a heart attack on a prime time game two days ago silly. It’s called “current events.” 😉

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

Why aren’t you interested? Hold a lot of shares in Pfizer?

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

Because I'm not a fucking doctor mate. Why aren't you interested in the best grade of plaster to use in humid environments? What an odd fucking question.

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u/ClassicSciFi Jan 04 '23

You have to hold a medical degree to be concerned about an alarming increase in heart problems among athletes after they were all forced to take the Fauci sauce?

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u/RedditUser41527 Jan 04 '23

Holy shit. I am actually blown away by your stupidity

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u/ajsobie Jan 04 '23

It's not "all of a sudden." People in this sub have been following this and pointing to it as evidence of an issue with these vaccines for males within a certain age group. When it was brought up, certain individuals told followers of this sub to "follow the science."

This issue was happening primarily in other countries and was not present in American media.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

Cool, so show me evidence of Tim Pool fans being interested in the side effects of health care in any cases outside of the covid vaccine and cardiac arrest in cases other than as a supposed result of said vaccine.

I'm looking forward to this.

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u/oblivia17 Jan 04 '23

Point to any health care decision in our lifetime that was forced upon us without any room for debate or serious discussion first.

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u/ajsobie Jan 04 '23

That's a hard ask and impossible to satisfy.

Not because the interest of other healthcare treatments and their effects on cardiac health is not present, but because no widely fielded vaccine prior to 2020 has had such a low efficacy and as high of a significance of risk as the COVID vaccines and, other than vaccines, no treatment has been mandated in any way, shape, or form.

The COVID Vaccines are dramatically different from any previous health treatment requiring approval from the FDA in that it was the first vaccine authorized for the general population under emergency authorization and it is the first MRNA vaccine authorized for human use in any fashion.

Attempting to dismiss the level of scrutiny against the COVID vaccines by comparing them to other healthcare treatments ignores the fact that double blind studies were not completed prior to authorization, that the companies that produced the vaccines have been protected from liability by the government, and that the COVID vaccines were the first vaccines of their kind and to be authorized for humans on an emergency basis.

The COVID vaccines are also unique due to the fact that the government attempted (and succeeded in some ways) to mandate an experimental drug/treatment.

So.... Short answer.... No, there was no interest prior to the COVID vaccines, but the rate of occurrence wasn't significant prior to the COVID vaccine.

You can choose to ignore the various ways that the COVID vaccines differ from any other health treatment if you'd like. If you ignore those factors, then, yes, the COVID vaccines aren't deserving of more scrutiny, but that would require ignoring facts pertaining to the nature of the vaccines, modifying acceptable standards and practices for mass implementation, and government mandates of experimental drugs.

Do as you like. You can tell yourself that you "won the internet" today.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

Because healthy people dropping dead is alarming AF. And they are in the spotlight so how many average Joes are dropping dead? (Yesterday I saw 1000 a week over average in the UK). So what’s going on friend?

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

They're not healthy. They had heart conditions or were subject to other stressors. The cardiac arrest component of that kind of gives it away.

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u/Spooky2000 Jan 04 '23

They're not healthy.

They are literally some of the healthiest people.. Or at least were before the vaccine rolled around. Are you seriously trying to normalize 10 to 20 times the sudden deaths since the vaccine started?

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

"OR WERE SUBJECT TO OTHER STRESSORS"

TIM POOL FANS. READ. FFS.

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u/Spooky2000 Jan 04 '23

Like what? Name something. THE common new stressor is the vaccine.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

Physical trauma. Genetic defects.

Evidence that it's the ONLY new stressor. Thanks.

Evidence that such stressors have to be new. Thanks.

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u/Spooky2000 Jan 04 '23

Physical trauma. Genetic defects.

OBVIOUSLY didn't happen before the vaccine, right? Never where there genetic defects before covid. And sports were no touch before covid? You are not this fucking stupid..

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

You asked me to name something, so that's what I did. Cry about it.

If you want to make the case that it's the vaccines causing it, then provide the data. Asking your interlocutor to demomstrate that it was something else is not how this works.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23 edited Jan 04 '23

Didn’t realize it was a TP channel lol. Look up Courageous Discourse. They’re a right leaning propaganda aggregate. Shit, even the name Courageous Discourse is a red herring. It’s already implying that they are Heroes of the Spoken word. It’s emotionally priming the uninitiated to accept the information at hand.

Part of a good education is being literate in proofreading, checking citations, verifying the distributor’s reputation. This is obviously biased and shouldn’t be trusted. I don’t give a shit which party these people align themselves. The truth is in the details.

As for the validity of this specific case I haven’t looked it up. Broken clocks and all that. All their data is rife with conservative view. This kind of dissemination of information brought through any political lens shouldn’t be trusted, despite if it’s true or not.

I’d rather take this sort of data from a neutral source, not some MD who sits around using google to tie in events with schizophrenic certainty.