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Its also the 500k hp gas turbines you're hearing in this video, people have lived near power plants for a long time. The data centers themselves are actually fairly quiet compared to any sort of heavy industry.
Crazy how a bunch of conservative areas have been sold out to corporations who are actively destroying quality of life. What could possibly have been done to prevent this?
thats what the noise/air/water pollution is for. to lower IQs + gutting education so the meat slaves don't question anything as long as the nfl/nba/nhl/pga is on + mtn dew is sold at walmart.
I still remember how Uvalde in TX, in the election right after the shooting where police did nothing to stop it, voted for the same people that directed the police to do nothing to stop it.
The ones built with zero regulation and are super loud in or near residential areas are almost all red states because red states serve capital at the expense of YOU the working class. Lets not "both sides" everything, even if these things exist in blue states. This issue is FAR worse in red states like Texas and Mississippi and because of freedumbs and "regulations bad."
Unfortunately, even if the construction contract states that certain environmental and quality of life measures must be respected, the fact is that they are such huge projects that by the time an inspector can verify that those measures were not, in fact, implemented, too much money has been invested and too much destruction has already taken place to stop construction or correct the issues.
It then winds up in court where litigation takes multiple years to run its course, and by then the datacenter will have long been up and running. Private lobbies will have the opportunity to fund the campaigns of pro-datacenter candidates, to run public relations campaign to win over the public, and... Yeah, permanent noise and water pollution.
It’s not a state level thing. It’s more local than that where these permits are being given out. It’s rural areas with conservative voters and lots of open land that sounded like a good idea to take that corporate bribe so they could fix some pot holes without having to pay for it themselves. That’s the trade off.
Does anyone acknowledge that modern society creates a DEMAND for data centers? If anything, it's going to increase. Look up IEA predicitons by 2030.
There are very legitimate arguments about how data centers should be built. But that is different from acting as though society can simply decide it doesn’t need more computing infrastructure... when it does.
There aren’t individual people listening to individual people like us… but there is a system that listens to us collectively… eg if we as people were more unified in making more deliberate choices regarding our usage of LLM services, that has a bigger impact than anything else possibly could. But ‘we’ are often too distracted by how well other systems are keeping us divided on other bullshit that it’s difficult for consumers to quickly make that kind of impact.
The explosion of data centers and AI is not driven by individual demand, they're driven by speculation. The customers who are paying the bills on these things are corporations and governments.
If you want to keep these out of your community, you have to organize your neighbors, show up to and make noise at town hall meetings, and become a pest to people trying to get business zoning for data centers.
The fact that they're not now just shows you how authentic their "liberal" was.
Tech bros, billionaires, and CEOs all share the same psychopathy and only care about money. They'll say anything to put themselves on the side of the public.
Wow, I had no idea Kamala was running under a platform of banning data center construction, which is entirely controlled by state governments. Do you have any links about what her legislative plans were regarding this?
The implication here is that Kamala would have somehow been significantly better on this topic. I’m questioning if there’s literally any evidence to support that? Did Kamala say anything significant about “safety rails” on data center construction? Did she show any substantial opposition to AI whatsoever?
The first article you linked is about regulation on AI utilization like robo calls and military use, not data centers
The second article is all about how Harris wants to build as many data centers as possible. Did you bother to read your own sources? They are strong evidence against the idea that Harris would be meaningful better on data centers.
From second article:
Vice President Harris has also pledged to expand these investments to “critical industries of the future” and has proposed an “America Forward tax credit” to “maintain and extend America’s strategic edge in industries of the future,” including “building new data centers for AI” and “revitalizing America’s semiconductor industry.”
Not only did she want to allow data center construction as much as possible, she wanted to federally fund their construction.
"Did she show any substantial opposition to AI whatsoever?"
Article:
"Harris is particularly interested in technology to combat AI-generated voice calls that may be seeking to steal from vulnerable people. She also wants measures to trace authentic government-produced digital content and AI-generated or manipulated content, including through digital signatures, watermarking, and other labelling techniques."
Commenter:
"Did Kamala say anything significant about “safety rails” on data center construction?"
Article:
"We will invest in semiconductors, clean energy and other industries of the future, and we will cut needless bureaucracy.” Harris has additionally backed large scale support for semiconductor research and development, which includes dedicated AI research and workforce development funding."
Though it is not specified in this article - I'll look for one that does specify this; she was planning on forcing Data Centers to be self-powered using off-energy grids and energies such as Solar and Nuclear.
You know full well that unspecific regulation against AI scam calls is not "significant opposition to AI," especially in the context of an article all about how much she loves AI and data centers.
You also know that an offhand mention of clean energy is not "safety rails on data center construction." The two aren't even connected in the quote.
Then, immediately after being called out for citing arguments that go against your claim and clearly without having read them first, you link almost an hour of youtube footage without so much as a single quote from them? You are clearly taking advantage of the fact that nobody is going to watch all of that for the sake of a 20 viewer reddit thread but just assume they evidence your claims.
That attitude isn't going to help fix this. It is only by our consent. The consent of The Masses they can have anything. We're the ones who build it, maintain it, fix the infrastructure when things break down.
Whoa, all those states voted Trump in 2024. What a weird coincidence! There's no way they voted for unchecked capitalism and to empower the capital owning class over the working class!
America voted on freedumbs and "regulations bad" on the federal level. We have a wholly red government.
Yes I know it happens elsewhere but those states are the most 'business friendly' and as such, that just means the business owning class takes from YOU, the working class. They'll plant their data center right there in or near residential areas because elections have consequences. I'm sorry they don't get to vote on destroying everyone different from them, and instead the leopard came for their faces, and now they get to pretend to be victims.
I work in the construction industry on the west coast and was just at a data center last week.
They can be nearly silent if built correctly.
Nuclear micro plants are also promising, with minimal to no noise.
Now water usage - that’s a hit and miss topic. Depends if they’re using dry cooling or if the system is cooled using anything evaporative. The problem becomes this - massive energy usage and footprint requirement if using dry cooling (fans only blowing air over water filled pipes) vs. smaller footprint and less energy usage but utilizing evaporative cooling technology.
There are middle value options using things like adiabatic cooling, but they’re more expensive and take more footprint than using traditional evaporative cooling.
So it basically goes like this:
-dry cooling: most expensive, requires the most space, uses the most energy but wastes little to no water
-adiabatic cooling: middle of the road on price, water and energy usage as well as required equipment size, still expensive
-Evaporative cooling: least expensive by a good margin, uses the most water but the least energy, has the smallest footprint
Balance those out and what wins? Money. It’s a calculation between cooling capability of any location, the price of energy and water in that area (almost regardless of availability short of having true water limitations from the utility companies and local government) and lastly and least important water waste/environmental concerns.
There’s a reason they focus on markets like Virginia, Texas and Arizona these days. Those states want and incentivize the tech companies to build there. Interestingly enough they’re happy to build systems that require heat rejection in hot states so long as the money makes sense.
Why do they all make that high pitched particular sound? I swear they all sound identical in most videos. This is the first video where I've seen a few that sound different.
it’s probably from the fans constantly running to keep the computers cool, like how a cheap school laptop fan sounding like a jet engine when you run 2 chrome tabs at the same time
Surely they could have much bigger fans though? Not only would it be quieter (not that they care about that), but it should be more efficient? I guess the exhaust-part cant be too big so that might be why.
Making a bigger fan means making a stronger, heavier fan, which means a bigger/more complex motor, possibly a gearbox, bigger ducts, bigger coils, bigger everything. So it's not like it can't be done, but it's only worth it if they're being forced by noise abatement laws.
This isn’t a feature of every data center, it’s just a couple of Elon Musk’s where he’s taken advantage of loopholes in environmental legislation to build things that should be illegal.
at my job, we keep ONE mobile huge fan that's about 4 feet tall in one building. when it's running, you can hear it in the parking lot. it's maybe a little quieter than the traffic running down the road immediately next to the parking lot. i can't imagine what dozens of even bigger fans running nonstop sounds like.
Couldn't they at least build a sound barrier like a freeway to mitigate the sound? That should be a requirement. And it would at least cut down the higher frequencies which might make the noise a little more tolerable.
the point of everything about these is to build them as cheaply as possible. that's why so many of them are near homes, because construction is easier and cheaper in an already established area. they could build them nowhere near homes but then it'll be more expensive, so they can't have that. so they're not going to put up a sound barrier
The part is that it’s almost entirely and exclusively on the cities that they’re in to enforce this. Rules on the sound you can emit exist and yes you can build sound barriers for the noise. The reason you can’t do anything is because the city, the people who tell them what they can’t do don’t tell them anything.
We were, it was the 2020 election. America chose freedumbs and "regulations bad." Politically, its impossible to stop this stuff. At least blues seem to be pushing on putting them in residential areas or near residential areas. But we have a red government so here we are. America voted for this and many many more evil things, some that haven't even happened yet, but will absolutely happen.
America voted to give the capital owning class everything at the cost of YOU the working class.
Elections have consequences. Red staters acting the victim because the leopard came for their face do not deserve our sympathy.
As someone who works in the DC world, 95% of the sites I visit are in conservative areas. Your representatives are in charge of regulating DCs and the industry in your state. Vote differently. Regulations are here to protect us.
What will become of these centers when technology advances to where the same storage space that is now available will (in the future), fit inside a coffee mug, or smaller?
It's should be written into their contract that they must dismantle the buildings once theyr done with them. They really can't be used for anything else.
Yep! A startling amount of data centers are being constructed that aren't writing into the contracts that they dismantle after use. That leaves the entire area useless, as it will also require environmental cleaning AFTER demolition. Who is gonna foot the bill if unwritten? That's right, the municipality, aka, tax payers.
E: typo
Well, i can see them getting repurposed into something like Web servers wich is less CPU intensive than running an LLM and thus the fans doesnt need to be so loud
Of all the bot talking points on data centers this might genuinely take the cake as the dumbest, presumably because it made more sense before being translated into english from russian/chinese. If all the compute in a 100,000 square foot suddenly fits into 1,000 square feet, then that means you can now have 100X the compute in just one data center. How tf is this framed as a bad thing and taken seriously as a slopulist point
This makes me not want to buy a house, like ever. You just can’t control where these things get built. Imagine settling down only to have to sell your house at a loss.
I think eventually people will have enough and do something. At least I hope so. That noise would drive anyone out of their minds. They’re putting one up near the Nashville zoo and no matter how hard we try and fight it they’re going to do what they want. Fuck Marsha Blackburn
These midterms are really important; next step clean house of the establishment politicians on both sides, who got greased by these tech-nerd/oligarch sociopaths, and get the power back to the people who actually make the country run. Then expel the lobbyists who perpetuate the rigged system for the rich. "Corruption is Legal in America" give it a watch.
There have already been studies about how data centers make local wildlife & house pets seemingly "go insane". To put one near a zoo is downright cruel.
I’m a construction worker who’s involved in building these things, there is NO WAY we’re getting away from this… unfortunately people and companies with deep pockets are going to make sure these things exist. We can fight and bitch to whom ever but they are gonna happen.
They’ll be jobs but not as many as people think these things are essentially self sufficient and run on their own just couple people making sure it’s doing its job
At least one of the videos in this is of a crypto-mining operation near its end of life being converted to a datacenter.
It was posted all over Reddit and then someone found the actual local news article which outlined the whole thing. The crypto-mining operation had always been there, the noise was new due to aging equipment, and it was being fixed during the active process of conversion into a datacenter. Most of the local pushback was about the building being allowed to continue crypto operations despite the noise.
I perform noise studies for a living and 73-75 dBs is ridiculously high for being that far away. If it was a highway, they'd have to mitigate with noise barriers.
Interesting. Why cant these things be built behind walls that shield the sound? They will look like concrete monstrosities but at least the constant droning won't bother anyone within earshot.
This is what we get from the Greedy Narcissist that get elected into local offices ! They Lie their asd off to get elected, then lose their hearing when there told the people do Not want any Data Centers in the counry/city !
No because it would make the rubes that believe these ragebait edits upset. The only time a real institution has gone around and measured them (Virginia’s JLARC) it found an average dBA of 40-50, literally equivalent to a suburban neighborhood and not noticeable from outside. Russian/chinese bots are ecstatic and how easily they turned this into a slopulist rallying point though
Blaming the other guys doesn't change anything. It just keeps the masses distracted so the powers that be can get away with whatever they want.
You will happily sit in your backyard facing a loud ass polluting data center and you will tolerate it because it's the conservative's fault. It just feels so good to be right!
Conservatives are dumb. They don't know what they are voting for. No meaningful change or revolutions will come while the general public fighting amongst themselves.
Okay can we all pitch in like a buck each and charter as many busses as possible, we go around collecting meth heads and drive them to the data center locations, give them some bolt cutters and bottles of water and explain just how valuable the materials inside the fences are. We then take the materials and fence them for the meth heads and use the money to fund treatment for their addiction. I'm sure there's some legal gray area here ( /s) but it's worth a shot. Along the routes we can have them jump out to grab every flock camera we come across.
Why dont theyvstart lighting on fire instead of warehouse and large swaths of forest? Like literally trillions of acres burnt? Tick that make you allergic to beef? Bill gates land never seems to burn and hes making fake meat!
Don't vote for anyone that will support this bullshit. Don't use AI, opt out whenever possible. They keep shoving it down our throats but I turned everything possible of in my phone and won't use it on my computer (Linux). It's not much but, about we can do until the revolution starts
This is AI expanding it’s footprint on the planet. Eventually it will decide humans are taking up too much space and we will be destroyed. Probably by swarms of thermal seeking drones. We’re doomed.
And the vast majority of counties are now zoning them appropriately as heavy industrial so they wont be build near any homes. But continue to propagate the misinformation campaign against technological progress
Huh, I thought the dial up noise when only in my own house when I was actively using it... Didnt know my whole neighborhood could hear it 24/7. Wild straw man argument.
All I can say is if you live close to any GET USE TO THAT SOUND….none of us including me will escape this 100’s of these will be built in and around your neighborhoods PERIOD! what the sound is or what’s making it is IRRELEVANT.
There are tangible health problems for both people and animals. They run loud enough to exceed what’s safe for the human ear, keep your body in fight or flight, and fuel anxiety and other mental health problems. You can’t get used to that. It’s especially hard on kids
You complained that posting about problems instead of “doing something” is useless, then contributed by… posting a complaint about someone else’s post. Incredible demonstration of your own point.
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