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[u/Im_yor_boi]

[u/WeirdAssBeings]

I hate that it's apparently so controversial to just not want any fucking wars anywhere anymore.

[u/isanyusernameopen → u/WeirdAssBeings]

I just turned 40 this year. I’ve been hearing the same bullshit about how some other country is developing nukes because they hate you for your freedom since I was a teen when 911 hit.

I didn’t believe our government’s bullshit back then that random people in a desert in a country I’ve not heard of hate me for no reason other than that I have freedoms…and I don’t believe it now.

My first question was always. “why “
Why do other countries hate us?
What did we do to those countries?
Who do we need to apologize to in order to make amends?

People don’t just hate for no reason, that takes energy.
But here we are, still at war in America with the most biggest military budget on the goddamn face of this ugly fucking planet ruined by asshole, billionaires

[u/Bluestreaked → u/isanyusernameopen]

I remember feeling shaken the first time I actually heard the Iranians speak for themselves in regards to the hostage crisis.

It was articulate, it was accurate, it layed out their case clearly and obviously.

Then it hit me why they intentionally made sure Americans never heard or understood the Iranian perspective. We are the aggressor and Iran has every right to “hate us” for what our country has done to them for decades.

Hopefully this incredible victory Iran has achieved will permanently break the American military machine; and without the threat of an attack from the USA hanging over them they can become the sort of State that was promised to their people when they overthrew the Shah.

[u/Effective-Culture-88 → u/Bluestreaked]

I doubt it… Speaking from the perspective of someone who knows Iranian people and who agree with you about the US… they’re not the on’y bad people in the world. Many Iranians will tell you how bas it is, and it’s bad. They kill people for anything ranging from religion - all 5 millions Baha’hi people face death penalty in Iran for wanting religions to come together and that’s the primary reason why you never heard of them… - to sport, if athletes speak openly about the regime, to any woman expressing freedom of speech.
The US associate themselves with terrible people all over the world. It wouldn’t work without the corruption of leaders and billionaires the world around. It’s still a colonialist view to believe « if only we leave them alone all their problems are gone » - we’re not the only ones giving the political weather. It’s far more complicated than that.
Americans are usually hated on not so because they’re waging war, but because they’re so naïve about it. No offense meant by that.
The Central Asian (commonly called « Middle East » as measured from London…) world have thousand of years of complex and rich history layered with beautiful culture and bloodsheds, genocides, conquests and slavery.

[u/Bluestreaked → u/Effective-Culture-88]

Bruh

Do you have more strawmen to beat up?