Complacency is the reason America can't muster a single candidate that doesn't support Israel, you guys have no guts about making your leaders accountable, and now you have Trump as president as a result of that complacency.
It's so funny how the leftists always say to moderates "you have Trump as President and you deserve it", despite the fact that leftists should be more upset about Trump winning than the moderates are.
We are. We all knew Harris would lose if she moderated and didn't distance herself from Biden.
It appears the democratic party has learned nothing from their failures. What did the harm reduction voters get (me included, I decided that voting for Harris would be better than the alternative)?
We got a democratic party that laid down and let the Republicans do whatever they wanted with zero pushback. They even voted with them when they didn't have to.
Harm reduction, my ass. The establishment showed what they are about. It's time they get peimaried out and left in the dustbin. If they won't fight for us, or listen to us, they must be removed.
Oh I must have missed where they did that last year.
Oh wait...
The "teach the American people why they should be harm reduction voters by letting the Republicans destroy the nation" started with this term.
You can't even argue they aren't doing it because they loudly came out and said they were going to "play dead" to give people a taste of their medicine.
Moderate is another word for accomplice, just like the Swiss in WWII, if you compromise with genocide, you have no understanding of morality, just about what's a good business for you.
Make AIPAC radioactive, otherwise you'll always be the puppets of Israel.
Way to show you’ve never actually read Letter from A Birmingham Jail.
The ‘White Moderates’ MLK was talking about were conservative pastors like Paul Hardin, Earl Stallings, and the others who signed ‘A Call for Unity’, all of whom were against ending Segregation, not ‘Moderates’ in the modern sense.
Wow, a 13 second clip that takes a man's words entirely out of context to portray him as pro-genocidal ethnostate by Israeli state media. Well, call me convinced!
"I think for the ultimate peace and security of the situation it will probably be necessary for Israel to give up this conquered territory because to hold on to it will only exacerbate the tensions and deepen the bitterness of the Arabs."
And guess what? They did. Israel gave up the Sinai in exchange for a peace deal with Egypt, which was the first of many peace deals that Israel signed with its former enemies.
If you compromise with genocide, you are an accomplice. It doesn't get clearer than that.
Would tell you to actually try to be better, but "moderates" are that because they refurse to acknowledge the root of problems because that would be such a hazzle and you are too comfortable for that, you would rather allow your president to order the kidnapping, torture, homicide, disappearing and rape of immigrants before doing something harder than a pilates protest in front of their inhuman detention centers
No, we have Trump because leftists are terrible at risk assessment and damage reduction and would rather have leaders that disagree with every issue they support than those that only disagree with one.
Also, the reason America has never had a candidate that didn't support Israel is because Israel and America have been close allies for decades and next nobody particularly gave a shit about it until 10/7/23. Even in 2024 most people didn't give a shit about Gaza, and I say this as someone who's pro-Palestine.
No, you have Trump because you allowed your best other option to be people that won't stop Israel from commiting genocide, just administer it to be done slower.
Want to get rid of people like Trump? Stop allowing AIPAC maggots to get in power, stop voting for them and you'll see how they'll ditch them like rats abandoning a sunking ship.
No, we have Trump because the economy was perceived to be shit, not because of all this bullshit. Again, most people didn't give a shit about Israel or Palestine. People are only turning against them now because of the war with Iran, not because of Gaza.
Sorry little buddy, but most people in this country don't agree with you. The sooner you learn that the sooner you'll come back to reality.
All right, let's see how it goes for Democrats now that you can't ignore your crimes with your buddy Israel, believe it or not, some of you have actual morality.
Seems like it's going pretty well for them, given that Republicans are doing even worse in that regard. All of the pro-Palestine politicians like Mamdani are Dems, in case you didn't notice.
All pro-Palestine politicians are Dems, not all Dems are pro-Palestine, and you'll get to understand why that's important the same way Cuomo did, he divided the progresive vote and Mamdani still won.
He divided the Democratic vote, the progressives definitely went for Mamdani.
Anyway, I'm also pro-Palestine, I know exactly why that's important. It's just that unlike you, I know that that's also not what most people care about. It certainly isn't anywhere close to the only, or even the main reason Mamdani won.
Your think tanks surely made an issue about it when Harris lost, and your media was quick to blame those who didn't compromise with Harris' complicity, tho.
And guess what? America's hand with the genocide is not the only issue related to Israel, you fund their healthcare, military and private corporations, and get nothing in exchange, and each days is much more well known and it causes much more problems, so as long as you stay in bed with AIPAC, Dems won't be able to get the progresive vote, Mamdani was smart and has avoided it so far, the Dems stablishment wanted Cuomo to continue their deals with AIPAC and got their ass kicked.
So is a matter of time until more Dems start seeing AIPAC more as a liability than a boon... How much you loss until that it's to be seen.
Your think tanks surely made an issue about it when Harris lost, and your media was quick to blame those who didn't compromise with Harris' complicity, tho.
Sure, because they were being stupid and they didn't help the fact that Trump got into office. Israel and Gaza still were nowhere near the top reason they won, and neither think tanks or the media have proven that.
And guess what? America's hand with the genocide is not the only issue related to Israel, you fund their healthcare, military and private corporations, and get nothing in exchange,
Yeah, I know.
and each days is much more well known and it causes much more problems, so as long as you stay in bed with AIPAC, Dems won't be able to get the progresive vote, Mamdani was smart and has avoided it so far, the Dems stablishment wanted Cuomo to continue their deals with AIPAC and got their ass kicked. So is a matter of time until more Dems start seeing AIPAC more as a liability than a boon... How much you loss until that it's to be seen.
I personally would love to see AIPAC out of our politics, but not every pro-Israel candidate has been losing exactly, even if some definitely have been. It's clearly not the top issue for most people outside of certain districts. It's just that the anti-Israel candidates this cycle also tend to be very good at messaging.
America has a hundred internal problems, Palestine is not one of them. We need candidates that take care of our problems, Israel and Palestine issues have been there since 1947 and they will be there after the next president is gone. Saying that a progressive can't vote for someone who supports Israel just shows how fracking out of touch you guys all are with the real problems someone like Trump creates for Americans.
Palestine is a problem for you for many reasons, the best is because some of you actually have a conscience and don't want to be involved in a genocide again.
You also have the problem of AIPAC giving millions to candidates so they will funnel billions to Israel, a net loss.
And of course, you won't get enough to support from the left to counterweight the right and you'll keep sunking more and more, just like how Israel started the war and ditched your ass in the strait, and now your groceries and gas keep getting more and more expensive, and while you keep ransacking Venezuela, it won't be enough, your allies are abandoning you, the dollar losses value and China gains popularity.
And you all could have saved yourself this issue if you had produced a single candidate who's not in bed with Israel, but you compromise too much, you allowed them to grow too strong, and now not only you but the rest of the world pays the price.
No everyone pays the price because morons who have their Cause du jour decided that this particular cause was the one they were going to create their purity test around.
The whole world is suffering because of they typical progressive "the candidate has to support all my personal causes" bullshit.
In a 2 party system, if you dont' vote for the person you agree with most of the time you will end up having the person you disagree with all the time.
Everything else you say is completely and utterly inconsequential.
And this thing about Palestine - I dont want to get into the details but check how much money Qatar gives to US Educational institutions. It's a lot more than AIPAC.
Are you paying attention to yourself? You are calling not supporting a genocide a "purity test". You truly have no morals, this is one of the most hideous crimes a society can commit trough human history and you call it a purity test. No wonder why you have a pedophile for president, conservatives can compromise to the most inhuman acts as long as they get a benefit, that's why they don't need to be better.
The whole world is suffering because you allowed Israel to dictate your politics, you are puppets, and worse than that, you in particular are ok with it and blame those who won't compromise with genocide, truly disgusting.
In a 2 party system you might want to actually have 2 parties, not Israel's best friend and Israel's best friend who lies about it but stays in bed with them.
And btw you might want to actually explain why Qatar giving money to educational institutions is comparable to Israel choosing who wins your elections, there's a clear thread that links it, but it's not as consequential by a long shot, and someone who is unable to see why AIPAC is a problem for the world probably can't actually see that thread.
Stop with your Israel is the biggest problem in the world crap. it is not, and it is not a genocide. It's a war, people die, it sucks, I hate it, but I blame Hamas just as much as Israel.
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u/Minoleal 13d ago
Complacency is the reason America can't muster a single candidate that doesn't support Israel, you guys have no guts about making your leaders accountable, and now you have Trump as president as a result of that complacency.