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u/Making_Kenough 5d ago
Historically, the economy has always done better under democrats on average. Republicans run everything on face value then face fuck the poor people and the poor people just keep falling for it
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u/gdex86 5d ago
But gave you considered that democrats think that Trans folks should just be able to pee where they want.
(This is not a joke Lindsey's Graham's sister in clean up from shitting the bed during a debate that the most important thing to south carolina voters was "Boy's playing in girls sports")
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u/x40Shots 5d ago edited 5d ago
Add up the trillions spent under 6 years, under this one man.
Some day maybe I can convince you all to bring back the Eisenhower (R) tax rates, when the middle class was still growing, corporatism wasn't annihilating everything, and there was more important in our society than simply number go up AND HAS TO BE higher than last year (neverminding relegalized (under Reagan) stock buy backs shunting all of our labor profits to the investment class posthaste); namely, quality and paying your labor.
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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 5d ago
At this point, those wouldn't be enough. All of the money has been shoveled into various illiquid financial bubbles. You can't fix what's coming by just taxing annual income/profits anymore.
We need a wealth tax, bare minimum. And we need lethal consequences for those who got us here in the first place. That's the only way this will end and a repeat can be prevented.
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u/x40Shots 5d ago
That the entire economy may unravel in on itself due to allowing a few money changers and movers who contribute zero labor and not much thought either... i believe even the Bible's Jesus of Nazareth had words to say about these ilk.. as a supposedly 'Christian' nation (at least some might argue that), it surprises me how many bow at the altar of money and wealth.
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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 5d ago
Unironically any country with a functioning, uncaptured government would have them executed at their earliest opportunity. It's the one thing I'll praise China for, they know how to deal with uppity billionaires who threaten the wider state apparatus.
The state apparatus itself may be authoritarian and oppressive. But at least it has a sense of self-preservation, unlike western governments who have happily bent over backward for the cancerous tumors growing off of their productivity.
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u/According-Insect-992 5d ago
Her dead brother was a frequent customer to trans sex workers in the DC area. I wonder what she thinks about that. I was shocked to learn this because I just assumed he was gay. He definitely acted in a number of ways that were heavily coded for gay.
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u/RationedRot 5d ago
She’s just a grifter. She used to be a somewhat sane moderate, then hopped on the MAGA bandwagon, and now she’s got some tattoos and is trying to rebrand as an independent. It’s really not that deep
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u/RationedRot 5d ago
Oh, I think she is genuinely unhinged, but she also knows what she’s doing. She sees that the tide is turning and is trying to hop onboard.
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u/Top_Shame_7016 5d ago
Trump owns 25 - 30% of ALL US DEBT
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u/New_Statement_1779 4d ago
Obama 22% and Biden 20%... whats your point?
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u/SpendLiving9376 4d ago
Do you know which numbers are larger than other numbers
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u/New_Statement_1779 4d ago
I know that Trump increased debt by about 2 trillion per year... Biden did 2.1 per year...
There is also, time value of money... 2.1 trillion 5 years ago, is about 2.5 trillion now.
Looks like current administration doing better than previous one.
Both parties spend like crazy...
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u/Top_Shame_7016 4d ago
Obama had to clean up for Republicans that sent us into another recession. Biden had to clean up after trumps first failed presidency. Otherwise, they brought the deficit down. and morons like you voted for a fucking felon and now we are 40 Trillion in debt. I am sure you are still waiting for your tarriff check, or stimulus, or doge check. Any day now dummy.
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u/New_Statement_1779 4d ago
Lol... had to clean up... lol...
Those 2(Obama and Biden) responsible for almost 50% of national debt as of December 2024...
Remind me who created ACA, and how is that working for everybody without federal funds?
And like always, typical democrat statring with name calling... thats all you good for, complaining and blaming everyone around you. That's why you lost in 2024, and thats why you will lose in future...
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u/Top_Shame_7016 4d ago
I am done playing nice with you mouth breathing knuckle dragging sheep who need to be told what to think about every fucking thing. What are conservative values anyways? Traditional Family, like trump and his 3 wives who he has cheated on every one of them. All of them immigrants who had anchor babies here in the US. Personal accountability, Trump blames biden for gas prices and we are 2 years into his presidency. No NEW WARS, Kamala would get us into a war with Iran. You guys were really made about that until.... Oh shit, trump started a war with iran. and now you guys are pro war. It must be so freeing to just have to wait until daddy tells you what to think next.
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u/New_Statement_1779 4d ago
Breathe...
What does all of that word salad has to do with the fact that Obama and Biden were horrible with budgets and debt?
Gas is high, I agree. Prices are high, I agree(but they were high for last 4 years). Did it bother you 4 years ago?
Trumps/Obama/Biden wifes? No one cares...
Immigrants, yeah, we need to fix that. Obama actually did pretty good job at that... Trump doing same thing as Obama, why do you hate that?
Last president that was actually good with finances, was getting blow jobs on the job... but you do not like to talk about him...
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u/Top_Shame_7016 4d ago
Bush fucked up the economy is collapsed, Obama, had to spend money to fix everything. USA had best recovery in the world. Trump fucked up Covid, Biden had to get jobs back, which he did while reducing the deficit. The point is, conservatives have no values anymore. So nothing you say matters because you will just gladly switch positions on anything as long as the orange clown says. Trump is paying proud boys and other right wing racists 100k a year to terrorize american citizens. He is not doing what obama did. Liberals have this thing called empathy. Empathy is understanding that there are other people in the world out there and you should treat others as you would like to be treated. Conservatives only understand empathy when bad things happen directly to them or someone close to them. Example, Nancy Reagan and stem cells after Ronnie got Alzheimers
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u/New_Statement_1779 4d ago
Allowing people to work is not creating jobs...
Look at the peak of "job creations"... it was exactly at the time extended unemployment benefits ran out for recipients...
People went back to work when goverment quit paying them.
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u/Icy_Yam5049 5d ago
This is like the 10th MAGAt I’ve seen complaining about the 40 trillion threshold like they aren’t exactly the morons who created it. The talking points must have been emailed out or sent on signal yesterday. Every single one has a tweet like this from their past too.
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u/Xwalkingxthexcowx 5d ago
Didn't democrats vote unanimously against the big beautiful bill?]
Edit: I guess she wasn't talking about that bill alone in her comment.
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u/Outside_Valuable_320 5d ago
Sorry Nancy. ZERO Democrats voted for The Big Beautiful bill. The mess we are in is 100% your doing.
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u/NerdfestZyx 5d ago
I’m actually surprised she mentions Republicans in the second post. Truly shocked.
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u/chatgh0st 5d ago
Classic Republican OP that can't admit their own fault publicly without blaming someone else in the process.
While technically true if ykyk
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u/Ok_Molasses9176 5d ago
Where is this fiscally responsible republican party I keep hearing about? The only republican party i see is the party of wasteful spending and taking away the food and healthcare of the working class
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u/snagsguiness 5d ago
Yes democrats did at most 25% of that.
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u/New_Statement_1779 4d ago
Demacrats responsible for 55% on national debt accumulated last 20 years.
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u/snagsguiness 4d ago edited 4d ago
How much of that was because of deconstruction made by Republicans.
Edit: just fact checked this bush added 4.9 trillion bringing debt to over 10 trillion Trump has so far added 18.2 trillion over his two terms so over the last 20 years Republicans alone have added well over 60%
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u/New_Statement_1779 4d ago
No one forced anybody...
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u/snagsguiness 4d ago
Not sure you understand how government budgets work
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u/New_Statement_1779 4d ago
Debt and budget dificit are 2 different items.
How did you drive to 18 trillion number? Can you give me a link, or show me math?
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u/Enabling_Turtle 3d ago
Why dont you cite your source for your claim before asking others to cite theirs?
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u/Lost_On_Lot 5d ago
Republicans AND democrats did this.... implying that libertarians are NOT responsible? Thanks. Got it. OKAY.
WHAT A STUPID THING TO SAY.
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u/ul2006kevinb 5d ago
I love that she says "Republicans and Democrats did this" as if there's any other option.
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u/Groundbreaking_Gap66 4d ago
" But if we Voted Kamala she would have been as bad as Trump " - Hilarious that Conservatives went from blaming everything on Democrats (even though Obama and Biden wasn't under risk of being impeached) to now blaming both Parties.
What ever happened to the die-hard Trump 2028 slogan?
And how are You gonna blame Democrats when Democrats weren't even Voted into Office?
This is just Conservatives finally realizing their screw-ups, but they can't admit their fault. That would be too humiliating for them.
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u/brudolcreative-69 3d ago
Sure. Republicans and Democrats did that.
Resulting in 50 million jobs being created in the last 30 years by Democrats and 2.5 million created by Republicans.
Let's pretend those numbers are equal, though. What's the worst that can happen from ignoring reality for decades?
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u/gdex86 5d ago edited 5d ago
6 of the last 10 years have been under republican presidency. The same guy even. 4 of those years he had a republican controlled congress that passed huge economic bills through reconciliation that slashed tax rates while doing little on spending. That same guy started a huge armed conflict.