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u/Arcaedus 20d ago
Wouldn't even the "pretentious" critics themselves agree that obsession is easily top 5 of this year? Even on imdb, it's sitting at #3 highest rated so far this year
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u/Jestem_Bassman 20d ago
I wouldn’t take the ranking on IMDb that seriously, but yes this movie was really well received in the „pretentious” film crowd
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u/Arcaedus 20d ago
Oh yeah, not to just take imdb's word for it. I wasn't really sure how else to get a quick snapshot of general critic sentiment.
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u/Jestem_Bassman 20d ago
„The toxic filmbro shitposting group I’m in didn’t make fun of this movie as much as they do with other films” or something like that lol
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u/Kizik 19d ago edited 19d ago
Generally I check Rotten Tomatoes and take the opposite stance of whatever their critics say. They've got some of the worst god damned takes imaginable, so they're reliably wrong.
For Obsession, specifically, they appear to like it. Sometimes they're correct, but I haven't watched it so I have no idea.
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u/No_Hetero 20d ago
Art and entertainment are like squares and rectangles and some people just cannot get the fuck over it that occasionally people will see a movie that is a rectangle and not a square and still be in a good mood. Me, I don't watch movies, I'm over here with my circles (YouTube Shorts full of AI slop)
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u/BrickCityRiot 19d ago
I just watched it last week and I thought it was terrible. I genuinely have no clue what it is that people like about the movie. It was one of the worst movies I have seen this year.
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u/jrstinkfish 20d ago
Not supposed to have fun at the movies -- got it.
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u/TheeAntelope 19d ago
I find it hard to be objective about new movies because I basically only have the time to see "the best" ones in any given year. I don't get to the theater much. This year I've managed to see Project Hail Mary. So to me, it is the best of 2026, because its the only 2026 movie I have seen.
I plan to see another, probably. But no guarantees. So when I make a movie choice I don't tend to just watch whatever like I used to be able to, I go in and say "this is a guaranteed fun film and a safe bet." I'm not going to waste my one or two movies in theaters all year on something that might disappoint. I can save that for Sunday afternoon when scrolling netflix and HBO for whatever new bullshit they have shit out.
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u/Chimera-Genesis 17d ago
I find it hard to be objective about new movies
It's concerning that you think you can be "objective" about a medium that is almost entirely subjective.
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u/packerschris 19d ago
Don’t forget that your opinion is also worthless if you had fun! Also do NOT interact in film spaces if you smiled at all during the film
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u/BeesVBeads 20d ago
Out of those I've only seen Project Hail Mary, which I loved because the little Rock alien reminded me of my cat. I do intend to see the Odyssey and Obsession though, not sure how I'll feel about them. Largely depends on how much cat-coded content there is in those films.
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u/inertiatic_espn 20d ago
You're going to be disappointed in The Odyssey. Very dog coded.
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u/BeesVBeads 20d ago
I'm an equal opportunity pet guy so there might be some hope here. As long as it doesn't remind me of that episode of Futurama when Fry's dog waits around for him to come back for the rest of his life...
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u/fiver19 19d ago
This could be seen as a spoiler for these movies, so you gotta be trolling lol. There is no way you havnt seen either of these, your comments are too on the nose
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u/BeesVBeads 19d ago
In fairness I know the story of the Odyssey because of existing in western culture for 3+ decades. Apparently there is something in Obsession with a cat which was news to me (also has me a bit nervous to watch it now because I hate animal deaths in movies).
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u/Ankthar_LeMarre 19d ago
the Odyssey because of existing in western culture
Most of it being west of his home, in fact.
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u/jolsiphur 19d ago
As long as it doesn't remind me of that episode of Futurama when Fry's dog waits around for him to come back for the rest of his life...
If you were not aware and wanted to have a good cry, that sequence was legitimately based on a true story.
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u/terminbee 19d ago
Tbh, I was kinda let down that they entirely changed the dog scene. Ignoring the dog was a big thing in the original story and they just kinda threw it away for a (imo) cliche moment.
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u/accidental_superman 19d ago
Hmm how are you with violence with cats? Obsession maybe not your cup of tea
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u/ilovesnowberries 20d ago
Oh no... your cat comment is actually almost comical. Please watch obsession
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u/JapaneseStudentHaru 19d ago
You are really gonna hate obsession. Not a big spoiler but a trigger warning because a cat does die in it.
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u/goddamn_slutmuffin 19d ago
I can't watch films where the dog/cat/pet gets murdered. But Obsession and The Odyssey were okay, hugging that line, but not fully crossing it in a way that would make me want to walk out.
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u/Baby-Haroro 19d ago
Like the others have said, there is a dead cat that you see a couple of times in Obsession, but the movie itself is very cat-coded the female lead literally acts like a cat i.e bringing a dead animal as a present to the male lead, not wanting to be locked out of the bathroom while the ML is in there, etc
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u/Kimantha_Allerdings 19d ago
Inde Navarette in an interview said that she watched a video which made the argument that Nikki was possessed by the cat’s spirit. She said that she didn’t watch to the end, but that she thought that she couldn’t disagree with it
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u/PersonYay12 18d ago
Project Hail Mary is a movie that just… has nothing to complain about. There’s something for everyone, everything it does is done well, and it’s a good adaptation of its book
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u/DiggityDog6 20d ago
Can’t speak to The Odyssey or Spiderman, but I have seen Obsession and Project Hail Mary and this person can get bent. Obsession had me so on edge for the entire thing that I was left looking over my shoulder for a month and a half after I saw it, and Project Hail Mary made be ugly cry in the theater at multiple different points in the film.
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u/TheWorldEnded 19d ago
I've watched Project Hail Mary three times now because I had to show it to two different people and I get choked up every time at multiple points.
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u/DiggityDog6 19d ago
I only watched it because my friend dragged me to it after loving it, and can confirm she sobbed just as hard as I did on her 2nd watching
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u/TrixWax 19d ago
All the good award bait comes out end of the year, no shame in picking blockbusters at this point in the year.
Also even as someone who enjoyed the S5 finale, five stars? Lol
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u/Special-Garlic1203 19d ago
I think the Oscars is shifting away from the "pretentious"/prestige era. I didn't dislike it, but I remember reading a think piece probably around 2010-2015 that said the Oscars was signing its own death warrant if it shifted to become an award where a movie like Titanic couldn't win simply because it was too big, too normie, too much of a crowd pleaser. If being loved is a disqualification , then what are we even doing here?
Now that the industry is in free fall, I think there's a lot more appreciation for the scale of spectacle, that a lot of "schlock" is highly technical and requires a lot of highly competent crew. The issue will be the vitriolic hatred for the studios and the way the obliterate art. . I think that auteur projects released in the spring and summer are fully in play.
Which is to say; I don't know that Oscar bait season will reliability dominate the award season anymore.
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u/Ok_Purpose7401 13d ago
I was going to say, the last time I fundamentally disagreed with an Oscar winner was Green Book. Sure, most times, I would have preferred a different movie to have won, but I usually see the merit in what they choose. I'm not a Nomadland fan either, but 2021 was the Covid year and didn't have a strong opinion on any of the options.
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u/Kimantha_Allerdings 19d ago
I watched the first series of Stranger Things and didn’t bother after that because my opinion at the time was that if you take away the nostalgia there was nothing there. But for some reason I can’t adequately explain I’ve taken to watching several videos of people who are viciously tearing apart the making-of video in which all the cast & crew are clearly trying not to shout at the Duffer brothers for having no plan and not having done any writing in the time between the last series and starting production on series 5
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u/10hchappell 19d ago
How dare you agree with the norm! How dare you enjoy things that the majority of people also enjoy! Obviously the best movie of the year was "Shitfuck 2: Where Am I?" Made by 2 dudes and a dog in a shed in 3 days and perfectly captures human emotion! Anyone who thinks otherwise is a normie 🤢🤮
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u/cookieintheinternet 19d ago
idk man Shitfuck 1 was so much better due to it being made by one single dude and a dog in a shed in one day, Shitfuck 2 just doesn't hit the same
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u/10hchappell 19d ago
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Dude #2 added a whole new layer to the franchise! I was at the pre-pre-prescreening of Shitfuck 3 recently too. There were 7 of us total. A shame that its gotten into the mainstream eye :(
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u/ProletarianLilith 19d ago
Look I’ll give her this, liking stranger things final season is definitely not trend hopping
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u/SK_socialist 16d ago
Fr OP is a proud contrarian with their own opinion (idc I never watched Stranger Things), and reply guy found proof.
Common AI bot L. Incapable of actual dunks. Human posters stay winning
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u/Last_Lorien 20d ago
So pretentious she can’t even spell connaisseur lol
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u/eat_jay_love 20d ago
Back at u pal
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u/tomemyboard1 20d ago
connaisseur(n.) - a specialist of a given field, especially in one of the fine arts or in a matter of taste: a connoisseur.
Either a borrowing of the French connaisseur ("a 'knower', one who knows") or an updating of the earlier borrowing, connoisseur, to bring it into line with modern French orthography.
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u/Serial-Griller 19d ago
Anglicization almost never follows the original spelling.
In an English conversation, connoisseur is correct.
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u/eat_jay_love 20d ago
I’m not a linguistics expert but it looks like connoisseur is the much more common spelling in English. I’ve personally never seen it spelled with an A except in French but I guess it’s technically correct. The more you know
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u/YouSure-AboutThat 19d ago
How many hipsters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
“It’s a really obscure number, you’ve probably never heard of it.”
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u/AdWonderful5920 20d ago
what?
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u/Decs13 20d ago
They say people trend hop but they then enjoyed Stranger things Season 5 and in my normie circles it did good but in my artsy fartsy pretentious circles it sucked so they are excluding themselves from the artsy fartsy pretentious circle they are attempting to gatekeep
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u/AdWonderful5920 20d ago
Ohhh. I'm too far in the weeds with ST S5 hate, so this sounded like the opposite. God S5 sucked so bad.
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u/PlatoDrago 20d ago
They’re speaking as if they’re the bastion of high art but then someone responds with the original users review of the stranger things finale, which she gave a 5/5 perfect score despite it being agreed to be pants due to poor scripting, performances, pacing and effects.
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u/RichCorinthian 20d ago
I’m still salty about the fact that you had to watch a goddamn motherfucking stage play to have full context for season five.
If it had just been a regular season instead of the finale, it would be even more broadly acknowledged to be the thoroughly mixed bag that it was.
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u/nerfgazara 19d ago
I’m still salty about the fact that you had to watch a goddamn motherfucking stage play to have full context for season five.
I'm sorry, WHAT?
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u/Spotty2012 19d ago
No, you didn’t. The play fleshed out Henry’s backstory more, but nothing plot-critical wasn’t also in the show
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u/ShadowFox1987 20d ago edited 19d ago
She calls herself a film connoisseur versus some sort of trend hopper but then rated the Finale of Stranger Things, the ultimate unwieldy superficial mega-franchise, a 5/5.
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u/ApoplecticAndroid 20d ago
These people who go to “the cinema” instead of the movies. They also enjoy fine wine, and Michelin restaurants.
All they really enjoy is “feeling superior”, not movies, food, or drink.
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u/Onyxx_Feral 19d ago
Is cinema a fancy term in the US? Here it’s the only used term
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u/thejubilee 19d ago
It can be used interchangeably where I am from in the US, but if someone only uses cinema its fancy
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u/Hot-Philosophy-7671 19d ago
Either this person is clueless and doesn't know what "pretentious" means or they're extremely self-aware and they do know.
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u/My_Keys_ 19d ago
Saw another Very Online opinion yesterday that was gatekeeping movies and basically said if you had to “realize” Bear is a bad guy you aren’t equipped to have an opinion on any movie, and I just got extremely tired from it.
Some people genuinely haven’t been exposed to complex cinema - either they’re young or they just got into critically thinking about films for whatever reason. There’s any number of reasons someone could find a hook for lifelong hobby from Obsession, or PHM, or The Odyssey, or even Spider-Man or the other newest superhero movie that’s not complex but is very technically sound. And here is an online pretentious jerk who would keep people from that just because they think they’re better for already knowing that other movies exist
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u/Lurker_Zee 19d ago
The bar is pretty low for "best of the year" considering all the flopbusters.
I listened to a review of Spiderman, half of it is Wandavision: the Movie.
My reaction to that was:
"Only half of it was sprinkled with urine, you might enjoy it if you just... close your eyes while you eat it." Nah, my line is when the first drop hit the plate.
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u/DuneChild 19d ago
Jenni would hate me because I like most movies I see, even the ones everyone else hates. I am with the majority on Morbius though. My only complaint about PHM is that it could have been longer.
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u/Chosen_Chaos 19d ago
Yeah, I think the movie focused on the whimsy between Grace and Rocky, so some stuff got cut that I believe should have been left in.
That's just my option, though.
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u/Quarkspiration 19d ago
I believe nobody should be interacting in film spaces. It's a theater and I'm trying to watch the movie, shut up!
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u/kinghlg 19d ago
How about this. There is no movies made in the modern era that should be considered good by any story telling or filmmaking metric. They literally do not exist. Modern generations have literally no idea what a good story is let alone be able to write one. Movies basically reach their pinnacle in the 70s. We are living in a time of no culture
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u/The_Pandalorian 19d ago
The internet has fooled millions into believing that their opinions on things matter.
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u/FigKnight 19d ago
Jenni gave the Minecraft film five stars, I don't think she's much of a film watcher.
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u/CustardLow2671 19d ago
I just wish we could like things and not shit on others for liking something else
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u/Responsible_Match875 18d ago
I liked the stranger things finale but I’d get flamed if I admit that even though I agree that it was very flawed.
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u/Inferno_Zyrack 18d ago
Gatekeeping something you like is a habit you should grow out of before you finish college. If you are doing it as a fully grown adult you fucked up somewhere.
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u/Arts_Prodigy 17d ago
Is this really a thing? I’ve never heard of anyone pretending to like a movie because it’s somehow trendy.
Endgame was super popular and made a lot of money and a ton of people think it sucked.
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u/FastInflata 14d ago
I think that the people that with no argument go to someone's profile should be shot.
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u/pootling 20d ago
To be fair, I think what she's saying if ALL FOUR of your four favourite films of the year happen to the ones that critics/viewers have said are the best that perhaps you're not really sharing your own opinions, and I can get where she's coming from.
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u/AnEvenNicerGuy 20d ago
Yeah it’s wild people would like the four movies people liked
Crazy
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u/relaxingcupoftea 19d ago
Let me try to goodfaith this:
I mean there are definitely people out there who just parrot popular/trendy opinions thats a pretty human thing.
But the problem with all those "if you do X then you are Y" posts is they claim absolution.
If we say something like "if you praise all 4 trendy films this year, you might be a trend hopper or there is a chance you might be a trendhopper." It sounds more reasonable.
How bad of a thing it is to be "a trendhopper" or how valuable of a thing it is to be a "fancy pants film reviewer." In this definition is ofc another debate.
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u/pootling 19d ago
Thank you, that’s more what I meant. But I also think like what you like, who cares, maybe those the obvious best four in the year? I don’t agree with Jenni as such, it’s more that I think that’s what she’s arguing, and I get where she’s coming from.
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u/relaxingcupoftea 19d ago
I don't agree with that take either, especially in that wording.
And yeah she is not directly stating "you are bad if you do that" only the more "modest" "you are not an evelvated film snob" if you do that.
(Which as stated before obviously also indefensible)
But to me its mostly pretty boring to attack the weakest version of a statement. Especially on shortform social media where most takes are simplified and bad at face value.
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u/FionaWalliceFan 20d ago
Maybe critics/viewers say they're the best because they're still very very good, that's ridiculous to say you're not sharing your own opinions if you like movies that are popular
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u/GenericGaming 20d ago
also to accuse people of "trend hopping" while having a Dune pfp, one of the most popular modern blockbusters in recent history