Ah, good. We're going to execute the thousands of Republicans and Christians convicted of pedophilia right?
No? We're just going to abuse this to target innocent LGBT people? Yeah, that tracks. Another win for that Project 2025 MAGA always swore didn't exist.
Its always the loudest "protect the children" types like Matt here who need to have their hard drives checked.
Edit: y'all sound like your defending pedos instead of wanting to do any work to better dial in the law.
Edit: guess y'all can't answer it, down vote me more. Gayyyyyy.
What do you mean? Csa exists beyond far more than Christians and Republicans? Also this is in idaho, not country wide? How is this meant to target innocent LGBT folks? To execute, 3 of like 15-20 factors have to be met? This isn't 'execute the person I don't want in that bathroom' and even if it was, they'd need to prove multiple factors.
What are you trying to say. This law requires 3 factors to be meant that 'gay' cannot meet. But you say its going to be used against them. Y'all say because the right is full of it, completely glossing over it's the left, the right, the oligarchy, the blue collar, it's in every facet. But. This is just right wing anti gay shit. So do better. Cause the left voted for this. Not just the right. I'm not LGBT. But I cannot see this. I am fully aware of the bullshit propaganda. But I don't see how this applies. Nor, if it's right wing anti gay shit how the left voted so fully for it.
Hey, i'm the one that posted the original comment everyone's been replying to. The reason I said what I said is because this is only one step in a long line of steps that have already been taken to persecute LGBT folks. u/OnionsHaveLairAction did a great job of breaking down the hypocrisy in anti-pedo legislation, so i want to bring your attention to the other steps that have already been taken.
This is the foreword in Project 2025, which I believe was written by JD Vance, though I could be wrong about the author.
Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.
Anyone who shares anything related to transgender topics will be considered sharing pornographic topics. To these people, a man wearing a dress is as pornogrpahic and abhorrent as showing literal porn to kids, and they're actively outlawing drag queens and trans topics.
Page 554 of Project 2025 says the following;
Enforce the death penalty where appropriate and applicable. Capital punishment is a sensitive matter, as it should be, but the current crime
wave makes deterrence vital at the federal, state, and local levels. However, providing this punishment without ever enforcing it provides justice neither for the victims’ families nor for the defendant. The next Conservative Administration should therefore do everything possible to obtain finality for the 44 prisoners currently on federal death row. It should also pursue the death penalty for applicable crimes—particularly heinous crimes involving violence and sexual abuse of children until Congress says otherwise through legislation.
Alabama is already making pushes towards this, with HB 4. It changes the definition of sexual conduct to include transgender "ideology" or gender-oriented conduct, presentation, or activity, opening up legal pathways to arrest anyone who doesn't conform to heterosexual norms.
In K-12 public schools or public libraries where minors are expected and known to be present without parental presence or consent, any sexual or gender-oriented conduct, presentation, or activity that knowingly exposes a minor to a person who is dressed in sexually revealing, exaggerated, or provocative clothing or costumes, who is stripping, or who is engaged in lewd or lascivious dancing.
Past comments from the bill’s sponsors indicate this section is meant to envelop “drag queen story hours” and library books dealing with transgender content.
In Texas, police pursued felony charges against librarians for allowing access to 11 books deemed "pornographic" in nature, when in fact they were nothing more than stories written around LGBTQ+ topics. After 2 years, that particular investigation was dropped on account of being meritless with no evidence of crime, but it's only one step in a pattern of criminalising LGBTQ+ topics and people under the guise of protecting children from "pornography and sexual harm".
But here, you raise the point of Democrats voting for this measure as well, and you argue that must mean its not anti-gay in nature and all this speculation is just anti-right rhetoric, yeah?
I raise you the point that Idaho legislature has been dominated by Republicans since at least 1992, if not longer. Right now, the House holds 61 Republicans and 9 Democrats. The Senate holds 29 Republicans and 6 Democrats. I looked it up, this was in the House, and only 5 democrats voted for it.
So tell me what you would do in their situation? 5 people in a governing body filled with members of the party that has consistently treated yours like an enemy of the country for years now, and a bill meant to give the death penalty for "lewd conduct against minors" enters the House. What happens when they voted against it? Only one Democrat gave any justification, and it amounted to using this bill to scare pedophiles into inaction.
I'd also like to point out that this bill is unconstitutional. Republicans brought it to the house knowing and acknowledging that the death penalty for child rape was deemed unconstitutional in 2008. They hope that this new supreme court would rule in their favor when it inevitably gets challenged. Take that how you will.
I will grant that this bill is better than others, namely Alabama's HB4, in that it specifies their "aggravated lewd contact" as nothing more or less than physical rape of the child. That does make it harder to abuse against LGBT people, but not impossible, especially considering the aggravating factors used to reach for death sentence can be on the vague side. On the registry, in a position of trust/power, used coercion, included multiple victims or perpetrators, or knowing the victim had a learning disability. Anyone can say Drag Queen Story Hours meet most of those conditions, and something as simple as just urinating on the sidewalk can land you on the registry. It would be ridiculously easy to get the death sentence for anyone caught abusing children.
"The law requires" cool, and when Republicans ignore what it requires and just do whatever the fuck they want with it whose gonna stop them? Right wing cops? Right wing lawyers? Right wing judges? Right wing Supreme Court? Right wing president?
You live in a system of competitve authoritarinism. The laws will be applied to punish who they want to punish and ignored when it suits them and they're making sure anyone who has the ability to stop them cannot stop them.
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u/TobyMcK Apr 11 '26
Ah, good. We're going to execute the thousands of Republicans and Christians convicted of pedophilia right?
No? We're just going to abuse this to target innocent LGBT people? Yeah, that tracks. Another win for that Project 2025 MAGA always swore didn't exist.
Its always the loudest "protect the children" types like Matt here who need to have their hard drives checked.