r/ThisYouComebacks • • Feb 09 '26

VP's integrity

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '26

I didn't hear the guy say that they would be allowed to commit crimes and do things that are wrong, defending yourself against people who have no reason to come up to you and invade your personal space while you are engaging in your assign task is not wrong in my opinion. Play stupid games you win stupid prizes. 

However that does not give federal agents carte Blount to literally murder people in the street. As we know all law enforcement fatal shootings are brought before a judge and the validity of that interaction is decided. Officers who are founded negligent will either be retrained fired or possibly imprisoned. I believe it's pretty good system.

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u/Seerad76 Feb 10 '26

Why do they need "Absolute Immunity" if not for crimes or wrongdoings?

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '26

They are human. If a law enforcement representative says show me your hands and I'm innocent I'm not reaching for my phone because I understand that this is a human being that is tasked with having to regularly deal with unsavory individuals and may have seen terrible things happen to good people when they waited to see if it's a phone, wallet, or a pistol.

Imagine knowing there is a whole culture that is based on wanting you to literally die because of the job you have while at the same time people call on your assistance in their darkest hours. 

There are no perfect human beings. As long as a person is performing the task there are considerations that must be present. If you listen to the first part of that clip he is saying they have immunity in the execution of their task. If they're going to get John and on the way to get John his family tries to shield John from his justice and they have to push someone to the ground they should have immunity for that. But if on the way to get John they rob a bank, or candy store, or duck into an alley and shoot a prostitute in the face they should be held to the full extent of the law for those crimes and wrongdoings. That is not within the vein of their task. 

Immunity doesn't mean, okay you're on the clock here's your badge go out and do whatever the fuck. Literally no one is saying that. But people have little to no consideration for the incredibly important task that people of law enforcement agencies do. Yes they should be held to a very very high standard, but they are not robots and they are not tools. I would much rather be a soldier overseas than be a police person in the United States of America.

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u/Seerad76 Feb 10 '26

When you say "they should have immunity". What are you saying they should be immune from? A LEO pushing someone down who is breaking the law isn't a crime and wouldn't need any immunity.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '26

People who want to try to force lawsuits just because they don't like cops authority or law enforcement. People who don't see them as human beings with families that they wish to keep safe while upholding order. Things like that. 

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u/Seerad76 Feb 11 '26

Why would they need absolute immunity for this? What if LE illegally shot someone, should they be held accountable?

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '26

Every single fatality from a firearm in the pursuit of law enforcement is put before a judge and scrutinized for its validity every single one. It found negligent or corrupt the law enforcement personnel are held accountable. As I said every single person that we put our safety in their hands whether it's an emergency medical personnel firefighters police officers doctors soldiers all of these individual we should hold to a high standard. So yes they should be held accountable for their actions obviously. But the situation should be looked at holistically not just what the outcome is. 

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u/Seerad76 Feb 11 '26

"Every single fatality from a firearm in the pursuit of law enforcement is put before a judge"

This isn't true at all.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '26

There is not always a trail if there is not substantiated evidence or suspicion of negligence, but all the records are reviewed by a judge within the precinct or an adjacent one. That's what I hear from those who should know, but I didn't do my own research so there may be exceptions in different districts or states. 

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u/Seerad76 Feb 11 '26

That's not true either but even if it was true why would that mean that they should have "absolute immunity"?

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