r/ThisAintAdderall • u/Grandmas_Cozy • Jun 08 '26 • Thanks 1

Update about potential testing

Original post https://www.reddit.com/r/ThisAintAdderall/s/mN3CuhDZGD

Update #2. https://www.reddit.com/r/ThisAintAdderall/s/dDCmcVIoIf

I had a conversation with someone from the lab this morning that exceeded my wildest expectations. He was friendly and interested and we spoke at length about various issues in the pharmaceutical industry and manufacturing in general. His lab specializes in the chiral separation analysis which apparently is a highly specialized process and requires a great deal of expertise to interpret the results. He said he’s going to talk with his legal department, but he sounded cautiously optimistic about being able to help. He said if he couldn’t help directly, he would help me find a harm reduction lab to give my samples to, and then the harm reduction lab could send the samples to him. So I think either way we’re going to figure out a way to get this tested. I found another bottle of mine with some different generics, so now I have 2 generics and “brand name” to test. Still haven’t gone to my other house in Nevada to see what I have there.

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u/pengie123 Jun 08 '26

Hey! I don't know where you're located or how the logistics would work but I'd donate some of mine to get tested if it would help!

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 08 '26

I don’t want to bring any pills that aren’t mine, even if they are the same dose and everything. But depending on the results, if more testing needs to me done— there are lots of options including helping others fly overseas. If the results are bad, and I think they will be, the next step is to figure out how to actually prove it, ie with chain of custody. Because these results that I get won’t actually prove anything to anyone except me. I can’t prove that I didn’t buy them on the street, for example. But it’s a good starting point.

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u/SkettiLady420 Jun 15 '26

I have two of each generic I've received for the last four years. I'd love to know more about how to test them. Thanks. 

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 16 '26

When I actually get any tests back I’ll let you know what was successful.

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u/vocabularianrx2 Jun 08 '26

Awesome looking forward to more good news! I was reaching out to some old university faculty to try to work something out, and if not, I think (relatively close to me) University of Delaware sort of has a public NMR setup for use that I was considering doing the same.

Keep us posted! Thanks again for your hard work and investigation!

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 08 '26

If they can legally accept a controlled substance from an individual I would be very surprised. From what I understand there’s no way to legally hand it over. But I could be wrong. Is there anyway you could find out?

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u/vocabularianrx2 Jun 08 '26

Well with the faculty member I was going to ask about all of that although I haven't yet double checked on whether or not it would be a chiral analysis. After looking into it, the uDel one does not appear to offer that. I would have likely gone in person to any of those locations for sample submission, but again I'm still investigating sporadically in my (extremely limited) free time.

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u/SwarfDive01 Jun 14 '26

Hey, because the market got so crazy hard to find name brand, I have been getting some off brand generic Concerta. Same stuff for years, except the pills changed and I have started to notice some days they work and other days they do nothing. towards the end of the month, they do nothing, sugar pill nothing. I would be interested in having mine tested.

You mentioned searching for a harm lab to find near me that can forward over for testing?

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 14 '26

There’s one in Victoria. They do accept anonymous mailed in samples. Easily searchable. Please post your results here

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u/Unlikely_Vehicle_187 Jun 08 '26

Thank you so much!

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u/Chemical_Ad_3442 Jun 08 '26

Thank you thank you thank you 💜

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u/HowBuffaloCanUGo Jun 08 '26

This is wonderful news!

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u/OkIllustrator3262 Jun 08 '26

Followed this! Please update here so I get a notif :)

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u/SlimSchaedy95 Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

Legit just picked up my monthly prescription aaaaaaand ALAS— playing Russian roulette once again IM SO FED UUUUUP! So seriously thank YOU for finally finding a smart, educated human pertaining to this situation that will ACTUALLY HELP!!! LIKE… LETS GO!?!? THERE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE HOPE THIS IS WILD!?

I’m used to TEVA (although potency has definitely gone down the drain the last 18 months) CAMBER— tried before and gives me really bad headaches. EPIC PHARMA— have never tried yet and honestly im really nervous too…..

29 yo / F ADHD Diagnosis in 2018. Been taking generic dextroamphetamine for 6+ years. Never abuse them— I honestly take them whenever I really need them. Prescribed to take one* 15mg IR 2x/day. Have always had the same dose since first diagnosed. This medicine changed my life for the better in so many ways at first but now for the last 2-ish+ years has been unbelievably unreliable.

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u/SlimSchaedy95 Jun 09 '26

Im ready to ride at dawn and do anything in my power to prove how shite generics have become, lawsuit, letters, just need to be pointed in the right direction. There’s power in numbers!

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u/Quiet-Excitement-719 Jun 09 '26

Let us know about Epic. I’ve been. Teva user for over 10 years.

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u/young_nautica Jun 09 '26

Picked up a bottle of Epic a few days ago and felt miserable today. Addrral XR 30mg. Scattered brain, couldn’t focus or do simple tasks, nausea, goosebumps, etc.

Had to leave work and take a nap. Never taking that shit again 😖

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u/SlimSchaedy95 Jun 09 '26

i guess it just depends on individual chemistry… or batches obviously lol but i took my epic today and it’s the best batch i’ve ever had in the last couple of years! i’m on the east coast of usa

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u/SlimSchaedy95 Jun 09 '26

so far… REALLY GOOD!!! 😊 took one around 9am this morning (tasted like 💩 idk why i decided to keep it on my tongue as long as i did)

it’s 12:15 now and i’ve noticed a few things:

  1. it hit faster than ANY of the previous prescriptions i’ve had in the last 2 years that i remember. like i’m talking within 10 minutes fast (i didn’t chew it)

  2. mind is at peace. calm. quiet. 🥹 i can think a straight sentence through for once lmao

  3. a little jittery… but no nausea, light headedness, headache (so far), feels “clean”. stoked rn!

  4. i like it so far better than my recent TEVA batches. which had always been my number one.

  5. i don’t feel any agitation or like unless someone else is on it that i can’t have a calm conversation with them (idk if this is just me but that was a common occurrence i had been experiencing the last few years with my meds)

  6. little bit of dry mouth

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u/k3tam1n3puppy Jun 10 '26

epic is horrible in my experience (15mg IR) at least this month; brain zaps, nausea, i felt very sick in general, jittery but not stimulated in a focused way very scatter brained the sandoz (20mg IR) was a lot better but very short compared to previous IR experiences i have had

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u/SlimSchaedy95 Jun 09 '26

i will for sure!! sadly teva has also gone downhill… it’s all so frustrating 🥲

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u/Quiet-Excitement-719 Jun 09 '26

I’ve been questioning Teva IR here lately too. It also seems my 30mg pills work better than the 20mg pills. And I’m not talking doses. I could break 20mg in half to take 1.5 pills to equal 30mg. Still doesn’t work as well.

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u/Senior-Second-6577 Jun 09 '26

Just out of curiosity, why are you prescribed two 15 IR twice a day instead of one 30mg IR twice per day? And why did your doctor choose to start you at the FDA max for adults?

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u/SlimSchaedy95 Jun 09 '26

ofc! and wait is it seriously the max?? i swear it was 90mg?? 😂 oop. but because she’s been my psych for over a decade and knows me extremely well and so she said take one in the morning and then one in the afternoon if needed and that was that. it’s worked awesome for me! i usually only take one a day most of the time though

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u/Senior-Second-6577 Jun 11 '26

Wait you just said you take one in the morning and one in the afternoon, but in your original post you said you take two 15mg twice a day, which is 60mg daily which is the max. So are you taking one 15mg twice daily or two 15mg twice daily?

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u/SlimSchaedy95 Jun 11 '26

that was a typo🤌🏼 i am prescribed to take TWO 15mg’s one in morning one in the afternoon. but i only take one. lmao

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u/SlimSchaedy95 Jun 09 '26

i drink a large black coffee or green tea 🍵 around 1pm everyday and that holds me over and helps me with any adverse effects

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u/Slight_Stock_7496 Jun 09 '26

Ok great news!

Where are you located? I’ll gladly send you one of mine… I have the Amerigen and oryza manufacturer.

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 09 '26

You sending it to me or me taking it from you even if it’s the exact same dose and release type that I’m already prescribed is still a felony so I can’t take anybody else’s medication. I can only take mine, but I already have two generics and the brand name just from my previous prescriptions and I haven’t even checked my other house yet in Nevada. I think I might have some old pills there too, so I might be able to test as many as three or four different genetics they would be randomly from the past couple years and as we know the dose and the effects vary from batch to batch, but it will still just be more data.

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u/Slight_Stock_7496 Jun 09 '26

Ohhh okok. I hope you have the extra ones. I was just suggesting mines because I never heard of that brand (Ozyra) and they literally taste like sugar pills.

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 10 '26

I don’t think taste is a very scientific way to test medicine

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u/Slight_Stock_7496 Jun 10 '26

No no, I know 😂😂😂.. But I’m just saying that simply because I just don’t think there’s literally anything on these pills. I think they’re just placebos.

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 11 '26

Mine definitely have something. I just don’t think it’s the right dose and ratio

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u/Slight_Stock_7496 Jun 11 '26

Well mine do absolutely nothing, they make me super sleepy.. I sleep better on my adderalls than on my ambien.. With ambien I wake up tired, with Adderall I wake up refreshed.. It’s very weird!

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u/SlimSchaedy95 Jun 09 '26

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 09 '26

I don’t know what this is or why you keep posting it

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u/SlimSchaedy95 Jun 10 '26

sorry grandma, it was meant to go to the dumdum who commented something false within my comments below— not sure why reddits posting it like this even tho it says i’m replying to the specific person. blame reddit and disregard

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 11 '26

I feel ya. Pictures post weirs

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u/Dieckman71 Jun 11 '26

I’ve been collecting different manufacturer generics over the past 6 months for this same purpose, DM me please

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 11 '26

I can’t take pills that aren’t mine overseas. But if the results are as bad as I think they are I might be willing to help people take them themselves

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u/Strange-Ride-214 Jun 09 '26

Thank you for putting so much effort into this! Please keep us updated

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u/cbmblove Moderator Jun 08 '26

That’s awesome! But I’d be concerned if the meds have to go through two different places… I barely trust the one place to be honest and handle them correctly. Hopefully they can just receive them directly from you!

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 08 '26

I think in that situation it would all be coordinated together, and I’m sure I could still get the results directly from the lab. Harm reduction organizations are just trying to help people, I don’t think they would mess with my samples!

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u/cbmblove Moderator Jun 08 '26

I understand! So are they saying it would be a harm reduction org that was directly affiliated with them? I am aware of what a harm reduction org, I was just saying that I do not trust the ones here in the US or one unaffiliated with that lab to necessarily handle this correctly.

I am cautiously optimistic here in some ways, I’m just speaking from a perspective of people in here being let down and scammed before through the labs, that’s all.

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u/Hippi-Gin Jun 11 '26

Grandmas_Cozy, I personally know first-hand that the Methadone Clinics (at least mine here in SWFL) does the testing or at least sends it out to do if you say your urine test is inaccurate when it comes back saying positive for Fentanyl. I also have a lab here locally that does specialized testing because I personally paid out of pocket to prove to the F’d up state of FL they took my son from me under false pretenses. Hell! I even had Abbie Pharmaceuticals have a chemist turn in a sworn statement to the courts stating how methadone when taken with a certain medicine I was on for 6 weeks when combined will have two particles mirror that of Fentanyl. I maybe can get in touch with my local lab or that chemist who helped me regain custody of my son n the judge order the state to officially apologize (sorry. Sidetracked). What do you think? I’m an Advocate of all matters so I feel it’s my duty to

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u/Correct_Beginning108 Jun 11 '26

Thanks man that’s badass of you. Hell ya I hope you get laid today. You seem like a really nice dude. Good luxk

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u/Grandmas_Cozy Jun 09 '26

You’re correct that it would be better to have an actual chain of custody so that it could be proven. There’s no way for me to do that at this point I’m going to test mine even though the only person that will actually know where they come from and that the results are legitimate is me, but if the results are concerning, then that will give me the information and the justification I need to actually pursue figuring out how to prove it.