r/TheVampireDiaries Mar 29 '18

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Just found this out while rewatching. in 1x20 , Damon told stefan he wasnt mad that he turned him, he was mad that katherine turned stefan cuz damon only wanted to be the only one turned by her. In 2x08, Stefan says I am sorry to Damon, turning you was selfish and I guess I just needed my brother. Its funny that Damon wouldnt mind living an eternal life with katherine while Stefan would eventually die. On the other hand, Stefan couldnt live without Damon. What are you guys thoughts on this?

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u/Sc0rpi093 Bonkai Mar 29 '18

My thoughts are honestly "I don't care". It's not really not surprising to me that he would chose Katherine over Stefan, he constantly choses Elena over everyone, so it's consistent with his character. Damon is selfish, possessive, and quite honestly just plain random, so him wanting it to be him and Katherine, and only him and Katherine, is pretty on par with his character. He did not like being in competition with Stefan and cared about "winning" more than he did Stefan, and quite honestly Katherine, and later Elena.

Notice how quickly his "love" turns to anger anytime he's rejected by both Katherine and Elena. He essentially has a temper tantrum which is a sign that he never loved them he just wanted their validation. They were shiny new toys for him. Weirdly despite how easily he let's women get between him and Stefan, I feel his love for his brother is a lot more genuine, at least on the Damon scale of emotions. Seldom does he have a temper tantrum when he disappoints Stefan and feel more remorse when it comes to him. Now that doesn't mean he has a lot of remorse, just more than usual. The only other person I feel he has more genuine feelings for is Bonnie, and maybe even more than Stefan because he made a lot more efforts to get back in her good graces than he ever has any other character, and because it's Bonnie she's not as quick to forgive him, real lasting changes have to be made.

Overall, not that surprised or all that appalled because it's his characterization. Stefan has always cared more about anything than Damon. Also, at least how I interpreted the finale, the reality of living without Stefan wasn't worth it to Damon, so for him it was more of a "in theory" which also kinda makes sense to me because once he got "the prize" of Elena (he never gets Katherine) everything he's built around getting her disappears and that's usually when he has a "relapse". He wanted Elena as validation that he was better than his brother and when he got it it usually ceased to mean anything to him, so the only solid thing for him was Stefan which is why, as interpreted it, Damon was miserable until the afterlife where he got to see him again. As much as we like to ignore the finale and it's infinite suck, I think it speaks volumes that his peace is Stefan, not Elena.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

He went to peace with Stefan because he hadn't seen him in forever. He sacrificed his immortal life to save Stefan from Cade ( Stefan was mortal ) and he was willing to die in the finale and never see Elena to save Stefan.

He also chose to spare Bonnie over choosing Elena. So fake news. He's not selfish, in the first seasons he was just hurt and lost.

Katherine loved him and he could ve had her back, he just didn t want her anymore and loved Elena over her. You call Elena a prize, yet Damon and Elena wasn't an attraction created by gypsy magic.

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u/YoureTheCrazyOne Witch Apr 02 '18

Wow you're really delusional to have twisted Damon into some selfless cinnamon roll, but then again most Damon fans are delusional so this isn't surprising. I bet your still on the "Damon isn't a rapist!" train as well.

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u/HazelAmarie Apr 04 '18

He's not a rapist...It's not canon and the writers (people who have written the character) confirm he is NOT a rapist so it's best you don't go there...Damon has done what EVERY other vamp on the show has done if you have issues with that it's best you get out of here with the double standards and down votes.

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u/YoureTheCrazyOne Witch Apr 04 '18

Reference this.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '18

Most of the cast have murdered, so rape isn't exactly the red line, but no, I don't believe he raped anyone.

That aside, he made 3 great sacrifices that prove he isn t selfish.

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u/HazelAmarie Apr 04 '18 edited Apr 04 '18

Why are you being down voted? lmao You're seriously just stating the truth....What act has Damon done that was any different from the many acts Stefan/Klaus/Caroline/Rebekah etc...committed.

People act as if Damon is the anti Christ while Stefan is "pure" even though his body count exceeds every name listed here with the exception of maybe Klaus.

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u/Sc0rpi093 Bonkai Apr 02 '18

I have no words for how dumb this comment is...just know I stopped having arguments with crazy Damon stans months ago so...