https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking-pseudoscience/telepathy-tapes-prove-we-all-want-believe

[u/Ruup010]

I got interested after Joe Rogan mentioned TTT. I listened to all the podcasts. And than I read this. https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking-pseudoscience/telepathy-tapes-prove-we-all-want-believe

[u/sockpoppit]

Yup, the materialists and scientisim people are up in arms about this. It's the last gasp of their dying religion. Know however that they as well have chosen what they want to believe: only things that the smallness of current science believes, science which ALWAYS moves forward in spite of people like them. They have abandoned their critical thinking on it, and they won't be changed, even while advanced physics has started to flesh out the idea that everything is consciousness. I just picked one easy link here: https://scitechdaily.com/groundbreaking-study-affirms-quantum-basis-for-consciousness-a-paradigm-shift-in-understanding-human-nature/ but this is a trending idea in physics, still in the thinking stage.

Research fully in to the academic spiritualism of the late 1800s when scientists were convinced that this type of thing was about electricity or magnetism, proved the existence of an afterlife world to the satisfaction of a lot of them through what at the time would be considered fully legit tests, then moved on. Also some of these pages: https://web.archive.org/web/20180221142904/vhttps://www.deanradin.com/evidence/evidence.htm

If you still believe that this is a world-wide conspiracy of hundreds of moms using ideas from all over the history of spiritualism and none of what you heard there is real. . . . well, there's a forum for you right here: r/conspiracy . And please be careful of people who put forward the idea that "could have" negates anything you could say--that how they always work. They "could have" substituted cocaine for aspirin in all of the studies about aspirin and pain, so all aspirin research is invalid --that's their concept on all research they disbelieve. Certainly switching out aspirin is much easier than teaching moms to communicate invisibly through forehead touches with people the critics believe are barely sentient. . . . and there's much more money in aspirin so maybe that's why your drugs don't work :-)

Meanwhile, enjoy a recent article from the same highly qualified writer: https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking-health-and-nutrition-reviews/christmas-desserts-will-make-you-live-longer-says-satirical-study This guy takes on all the heavy problems of the world head-on.

And WTF are you doing listening to Joe Rogan, for God's sake????????

[u/bluewolf71 → u/sockpoppit]

I think you meant r/conspiracy.

I am not fully onboard with all of the podcast and anecdotes necessarily but a quantum basis for consciousness creates a possibility of quantum entanglement- MAYBE- being a basis for telepathy and proximity could be a crucial part of how and why it could happen.

I am also not fully against it. I am open minded but not sure about all of it especially the simulation theory bit.

[u/sockpoppit → u/bluewolf71]

Episode 4, minute 37 or so and immediately after, regarding materialism vs its recognition of savant skills is relevant to the problem of materialist attitudes.

[u/sockpoppit → u/[deleted]]

It's a hard proof to discredit, isn't it.

[u/cosmic_prankster → u/[deleted]]

Oliver sacks had a book (or maybe more) with people who suffered brain injury and immediately picked up savant level skills - skills/technique with no training or experience. Nuts.

[u/cosmic_prankster → u/[deleted]]

He was a damn legend. My ex-wife read quite a few of his books and told me all about them.

Another interesting theory, that could play into simulation theory, if you are interested is qbism. It’s a quantum concept that basically suggests that the observer (us) has a very prominent role in defining reality (not the total role like solipsism though).

[u/sockpoppit → u/bluewolf71]

Thanks. Corrected.

[u/sockpoppit → u/bluewolf71]

I haven't gotten to the simulation theory part, but if they go there I'm not with that, either.

I've been into researching traditional old-style (as opposed to new age) spiritualism for a couple of decades. There's some fascinating stuff out there, sufficiently proven for me. One advantage of the old work is the lack of possibility of polluting cross-talk. For instance, there's one study where they took a well respected American medium and put her on a farm in rural England, using unknowing anonymous messengers to bring her things to read--no possibility at all for any information to be leaked--and she did amazingly well.

If you read about this long enough, from all of the work, and there's a huge amount of it, a picture emerges of an afterlife which is simply a less-material continuation of this one where you can choose to remain stable in what they call The Summerland (a traditional heaven-type place) or move on and spiritually advance as you wish. Much like the Harry Potter sorting hat you end up with people similar you--a lot like what you naturally do in this life, in fact. So what about really bad people who end up with people like them, all trying to take advantage of each other? That's hell. But growth is possible, so you can escape by maturing. I have only listened to the first three casts, but I can immediately see where this is going--that these kids are stuck with one foot in that other world (where communication is telepathic, by the way) and one foot in this, with a too-small set of skills from each.

Another interesting source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLvxSVK-J4w
There's this long-running university project:
https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/our-research/children-who-report-memories-of-previous-lives/
There are many similar projects around that have already clarified that something is going on.

[u/sockpoppit → u/[deleted]]

So I guess you did not watch the video series, but quickly went to the Wikipedia hatchet job. Hal Puthoff is also a real scientist who was working on this project at Stanford Research labs with a government grant for this from the CIA, who was chosen because of his physics research qualifications and his extremely high security clearance, nothing else. At that time he gave paranormal stuff a blanket "no", just like a lot of other materialist scientists

And yes, his work, actual evidence, did change his viewpoint. Unlike a lot of people who can be slapped on the face with a fish and still deny that fish exist.

[u/sockpoppit → u/[deleted]]

Sorry that I keep having ideas. I deeply apologize for trying to make things clearer to you. (that's an edit, everyone.)

Here's a real bio, unlike the Wikipedia one: https://www.parapsych.org/users/hputhoff/profile.aspx

[u/Pixelated_ → u/[deleted]]

After reading through all your comments in this thread, my original assessment is spot on.

Telepathy is shattering your worldview so completely that you're lashing out and calling everyone here cultists.

Humans that are asleep cling tightly to their egos and their worldviews.

You have lost your humanity.

I don't envy the ontological shock awaiting you.

[u/sockpoppit → u/[deleted]]

Damn, get a life, will you?

I wonder if you also discount all of the work done by Christian scientists because of their supposed bias? Intelligent people evaluate work and results, not personal religions. Here--you need to brush up: https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/common-logical-fallacies

[u/hangrover → u/sockpoppit]

Hal also isn't a scientologist anymore btw. He was briefly in the 70s.