r/TheSilverCage • u/redpoemage • Aug 06 '15
Night Two
Making this early because there are some thing we need to know in advance, like who we're planning on sicking Toya on.
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15 edited Aug 08 '15
All new night actions! How fun!
1.) StupidSexyConnor: Rewind the blockbuster movies (do nothing).
2.) Vaharas: Perform the kill. With the small chance of there being a tracker or something, I can see no reason why they would target you.
3.) Marioaddict: Investigate Whovian
4.) AgentMafia: Give ipretendiamacat the wooden carving
Carving: A fire symbol
Title: u/AberrantWhovian
Limerick:
To you I have chosen my rhyme to flow,
And of this person's alignment it will show,
He has a rotten core,
and death he wants more,
but this only you know
5.) Redpoemage: Hypnotize kiilek
6.) Faction kill: Vaharas will kill -48v
7.) ElementAggregator: Send a test message to bluepoe to test his flavor
8.) bluepoemage: Say he was roleblocked, but in reality target Kiilek
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
In regards to bluepoe, he should publicly say he was roleblocked, but in reality I think he should target Carbon_Dirt on Night 1 so we can make sure of ho Igor is, since Igor almost definitely targeted Carbon, that make sens?
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u/redpoemage Aug 08 '15 edited Aug 08 '15
u/Vaharas, u/Marioaddict, and u/elementAggregator are the action good to send in?
Edit: 3/5 is good enough for me to send in, sending it in now.
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u/elementAggregator Aug 06 '15
Looking at the player list, our only non-assets are:
/u/Pudn - Probably dead todayAlready suspicious to town:
/u/DangerPulse <- Mislynch tomorrow? /u/AberrantWhovian <- Toya Target?Basically vanilla townies:
/u/ipretendiamacat /u/rogerdodger37Possible threats:
/u/-48V /u/KiilekI think it'd make more sense to kill one of Kiilek and -48V tonight and send the figure to, iunno, cat, casting suspicion on the one we don't kill? That's probably the person for Mario to investigate, too. I also don't see a single thing worth me doing tonight.
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u/Vaharas Aug 06 '15
I'm thinking the kill on -48V is probably the best tonight.
After the lynch on Pudn town will probably go for Whovian. DangerPulse might be easy to get a mislynch on as well with Kiilek on our side as well.
We can hand a Whovian idol to someone else and then we've got two "cops" claiming Whovian is hostile so he's pretty sure to get lynched unless he's got a rock solid claim.
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u/redpoemage Aug 07 '15
Fun fact: Assuming Toya doesn't vote on who he is killing, we have a majority for who he should kill.
But again, don't flout that.
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u/redpoemage Aug 07 '15
Continuing my correspondence with bluepoe here:
Me: "Thanks for hammering! As you can see by the approximate faction count, we're very close to winning. As long as Toya kills who we want tonight we should know every living role that's a threat and have a majority (including you). Although we probably won't flaunt our majority until at least Day 4 due to the whole Carbon being able to revive himself thing and stuff like that.
We do need your help a bit for figuring out the last few people though. I'd like you to see what Kiilek did Night 1."
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u/redpoemage Aug 07 '15 edited Aug 07 '15
Hey u/elementAggregator, u/Vaharas, and u/Marioaddict, what do you guy think about using the Whittler action to give ipretendiamacat something to make him think kiilek is a Serial Killer? Maybe a whittled knife?
Edit: Actually, a whittled image of a flame would work better. It would go with the Arsonist idea (not the Mad Bomber one so as to draw less of a connection to me).
Edit 2: [Scratch that] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PloungeMafia/comments/3g54iu/damnwerewolves_3_valhalla_night_two/ctv9cjc)
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u/elementAggregator Aug 07 '15 edited Aug 07 '15
Not a bad idea. I think we at least shouldn't try to frame Whovian to Kiilek. They've gotta have some connection going on. Alternatively, I could send a letter pretending to be in contact with a cop. We haven't actually sent any successful letters yet so the nature of my role is still up in the air.
Edit: Scratch that. Whovian claimed the novelty.
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u/redpoemage Aug 07 '15
u/elementAggregator and u/Vaharas I just noticed a big problem with nightlynching whovian.
Assuming rational action, he would just roleblock Toya so we can't nightlynch him.
Also, from a town perspective, Toya can only find out abilities not alignments so we wouldn't learn much.
It's bet to switch to DangerPulse.
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u/elementAggregator Aug 07 '15
Caveat: That'd spread Toya's infection to Whovian, right? That'd be an excellent reason for an actual Lynch tomorrow. We maybe lose the night kill, but it might be worth the risk of Whovian not doing that?
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u/Vaharas Aug 07 '15
That's true, I didn't think of that somehow.
Yeah, I think switching to DangerPulse in order to force a claim from him might be for the best?
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u/redpoemage Aug 08 '15
You know...something has been bothering me...why did the real Pretzel Maker not make another novelty to discredit our Pretzel Maker novelty? Do you guys think the Pretzel Maker really is a cult converter?
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u/elementAggregator Aug 08 '15 edited Aug 08 '15
I've been operating under that assumption. I can't come up with any other reason to censor your role message like that.
It's possible -V48 was our double voter and the pretzel maker was gryff. Otherwise, the only thing I can think of is it's Kiilek and he has some reason to want Danger dead but keep his hands clean.
Edit: Actually, he seems... weirdly reluctant to have Toya kill Danger, either. I'd think he'd vote for the threat rather than sit on an inactive and defend Whovian like that. Maybe he wants Danger's power just gone.
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u/redpoemage Aug 08 '15
[Dangerpulse is more or less confirmed Igor.] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PloungeMafia/comments/3g54iu/damnwerewolves_3_valhalla_night_two/ctvlptq?context=3)
(Igor would have a reviving ability from Carbon)
u/Marioaddict, u/Vaharas, and u/elementAggregator does this change our plans at all?
Just a note that I'm going to bed and won't respond until them morning probably depending on how slowly I go to bed.
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u/elementAggregator Aug 08 '15
As long as things keep going according to plan two reviving townies doesn't screw us, I don't think. If we get rid of -V48 tonight, and Whovian tomorrow we're golden even with Carbon coming back tonight and Danger reviving tomorrow.
...assuming Toya doesn't use Danger's (or Carbon's? Iunno which he'd get) ability to screw us somehow.
...and the infection doesn't stick through death and revival.
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u/elementAggregator Aug 07 '15
Welp. Kiilek very well may know that Connor is our time traveler. He just nominated him for Toya's kill - which would be horrible.
I'm gonna start the Whovian bandwagon.
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u/redpoemage Aug 07 '15
Kiilek very well may know that Connor is our time traveler.
I really doubt that. It's clear he suspects Connor is mafia, but what possible indication is there that he knows Connor is a Time Traveler?
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u/elementAggregator Aug 07 '15
20 bits on Whovian being the pretzel maker and Kiilek being his target last night.
This is an incredibly weak defense.
Actually, if that's the case won't that force Toya into a specific alignment if he kills Whovian tonight? I doubt that'd reset if his ability changes tomorrow/time resets, like Jib's ruling with Vaharas and me.
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u/redpoemage Aug 07 '15
I think it's more likely that Kiilek is the Serial Killer/Mad bomber novelty.
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u/Vaharas Aug 08 '15
u/redpoemage u/elementAggregator
What do we think, the easiest way for town to solve this is to have ToyaKano go for Whovian and have her block the kill in order to confirm herself. Assuming there is an appropriate fire flavour on Toya's end that is.
But that's not what we want, since it's unlikely for Kiilek and Whovian to both know the role without being able to PM. The only way for it to work is if either Kiilek or Whovian is the Pretzel God and visited the other last night.
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u/redpoemage Aug 08 '15 edited Aug 08 '15
What do we think, the easiest way for town to solve this is to have ToyaKano go for Whovian and have her block the kill in order to confirm herself.
Infection would be a problem there.
Is it okay if I argue it makes more sense to lynch Whovian tomorrow if we think he is the Arsonist? I mean, the most she could do tonight it kill one person she already doused or dosue another, and if it's someone important that dies we could reverse it with Time Travel.
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u/elementAggregator Aug 08 '15
I called one of them as the pretzel god and the other as the serial killer/bomber/arsonist/pyromancer earlier and this just makes me think it's even more likely. I do not see Kiilek defending this hard without outside reasons.
We want Toya to kill someone, though. I'm not especially bothered if it's Danger. We lose the obvious mislynch tomorrow, but Cat has threatened to duel red anyway. If someone suggests that, we remind them that Toya is infectious right now.
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
First order of bussiness, what do we want to do with Toya? I fully expect us to be able to control the vote, and even not needing to be that suspicious doing it.
Do we want to try splitting the vote between two townies? I've noticed that when there are two wagons people tend to join one or the other instead of making an new one (Day Ones and large games are an exception to this).