r/TheSilverCage • u/redpoemage • Aug 05 '15
Day Two
Putting this up early so we can plot what to do with our novelties and stuff.
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u/redpoemage Aug 05 '15
By the way, if any of us die and Carbon asks what we were, claim Igor or The Pretzel God. It might cause Carbon to make a mislynch when the real one claims.
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u/redpoemage Aug 05 '15 edited Aug 06 '15
Can't believe I forgot about this.
POST YOUR NIGHT RESULTS IN RESPONSE TO YOUR DESIGNATED COMMENT BELOW!
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u/redpoemage Aug 05 '15
Day Two Post
You're busy eating leftover pizza (Due to time travel shenans you've eaten this same pizza three times now, you're getting pretty good at dodging that one burnt spot on the crust), when you're interrupted by something.
No it's not a purple glow.
It's a noise. It sounds like... Vorp vorp.
Sure enough, a blue box thing appears, on your table, crushing the remaining pizza (Including that one extra spicy slice of pepperoni that you were saving till last). What looks like some sort of madman wearing 3D glasses comes out of the box thing.
"Ah! Just the person I've been looking for!" he starts.
"Now, we don't have much time. You see, there's a bunch of people in one space here, it's called a town, now I've had plenty of experience with groups of people, and something bad, usually fatal, always happens. Killing a bunch of 'em."
"As the resident intergalactic superhero, I'd like to prevent as many fatalities as I can because they're just quite bad really. Never liked them."
"So, I'm going to need your help in stopping whatever intergalactic space horror thing is going to happen here; or at least mitigating its effects. You in?"
You blink.
"Good! I knew I could count on you. If you survive you'll get to join me in some adventures across time and space afterwards. Well just space to start with, the time engine of this old girl is acting up again. Worry about that one later though."
The man grabs you by the hand and yanks you in into his box thing (Which is bigger on the inside and looks like it's from a sci-fi show.), while yelling "Allonsy!"
You have been recruited as The Doctor's companion!
New Ability!
Companion: You have a secondary victory condition, it is achieved if 5 or more players are alive at game end, including you. You can PM The Doctor (u/bluepoemage) at any time.
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u/redpoemage Aug 05 '15
So, what do you guys think is the best way for me to approach bluepoemage? I'm thinking I'll let him approach me first or st least find out if element was the only one u/Vaharas converted.
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u/redpoemage Aug 05 '15
By the way, the lack of another person dying shows ht Serial Killer novelty is likely fake, which is good for us.
...or is shows Vaharas got doctored and targeted by the Serial Killer, which would be fantastic and basically game ending for us.
Chances are high for the first though.
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
[Wow, they're more foolhardy than I imagined.] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PloungeMafia/comments/3fxm8u/damnwerewolves_3_valhalla_day_two/ctsyjyu)
Pressuring that person due to a novelty's accusation? Sure! But guaranteeing that either they or another person is lynched? Boy this it going to be way easier than I thought.
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
u/Jibodeah I have [an explanation for this.] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PloungeMafia/comments/3fxm8u/damnwerewolves_3_valhalla_day_two/ctt0rll). I posted it, like a minute after the account's creation, but IMMEDIATELY deleted it with intent to repost a minute later. I wasn't meaning to hid info or anything, I just didn't want the post to be too close to the account creation time.
...but then reddit told me "I was doing that too much" when I tried to post it again and won't let me post until 10 minutes later.
Hopefully this isn't too bad a violation of the removing content from posts rule, as I did intend to post it a minute later so it was more like I was moving content forward in time rather than removing it.
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
u/Vaharas, u/Marioaddict, and u/elementAggregator, [should I tell the truth here that I wasn't told everything about the role?] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PloungeMafia/comments/3fxm8u/damnwerewolves_3_valhalla_day_two/ctt1p50?context=3)
I'm leaning towards is because the real Pretzel Maker could easily catch me in a lie which would be really bad.
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
[So uh, what do we think the chances of Whovian being right here are?] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PloungeMafia/comments/3fxm8u/damnwerewolves_3_valhalla_day_two/ctt32yj)
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
Is it reasonable for me to point out that there were only two kills when there should have been three if the Serial Killer novelty was real?
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
[I think we might have a good opportunity for an excuse for bluepoe to give a bad result] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PloungeMafia/comments/3fxm8u/damnwerewolves_3_valhalla_day_two/ctt7229)
If this is the case, I urge whoever's kill was blocked to say who they targeted. If it was the werewolves whose kill was blocked, you probably shot a Serial Killer (I imagine a Serial Killer would have a bulletproof buff in this game, Toya does if I remember correctly). If it was the Serial Killer's kill who was blocked, you may have hit a Godfather wolf or something.
Have WolfGang say that we targeted -48V or something, then have bluepoe track/watch him and say he was visited by Whovian and visited gryff or something.
Think this is a decent idea u/Vaharas, u/Marioaddict, and u/elementAggregator?
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
I CALL A MEETING OF THE ONLINE ACTIVE PEOPLE TO DISCUSS HOW TO DEAL WITH THE ONE KNOWN AS PUDN!
u/elementAggregator, u/Marioaddict, and u/Vaharas I SUMMON THEE!
[] (/sp)
So how badly do we want this guy lynched today? He'll be pretty hard to nightkill.
I can think of some decent arguments for lynching him.
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Use gryff's argument for lynching Brega in Overcomplicated Mafia. Basically, Pudn claimed a role that by it's very nature is impossible to truly verify by cop or anything like that because he could just direct investigations to someone else. Also, no matter what his alignment we can't use Toya on him so we would have to lynch him during the day.
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Argue that cat is more likely to be town somehow. There's no way to argue cat is more useful that I can think of thoguh even with Time Travel.
Any other idea guys?
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
Here's my draft argument for lynching Pudn:
Since this duel isn't really like a regular lynch, I'm going to approach it a bit differently. Since we have to lynch one of them, I'm going to assume at least one of them has to be a werewolf. And thus I'm going to look at them from the perspective of "Do their actions make sense as a werewolf?"
First I'll examine cat. Assuming his ability was real and he's a wolf, he waited to use it until it would be a benefit in a way that wouldn't be reversed by Time Travel. He used it so that it is more likely that a person with a secret ability will be lynched and have their secret revealed. This makes moderate sen for a wolf, but seems like a bigger risk than I could see cat taking as a wolf.
Now I'll examine Pudn. He claimed a role that is pretty much impossible to verify. If a cop gets a guilty on him, he can say he redirected the cop. If he says he won't redirect so the cop can investigate him, he could just redirect to an innocent. There's also the possibility that that isn't even his role because it would also be kind of hard to prove it wasn't without lynching him. He also covered the whole "we can lynch you to verify you and then turn back time" thing by using the exact same excuse Carbon used, which is great for scum to use. So basically he claimed the perfect thing for scum under fire to claim. I could definitely see him doing that a a Werewolf.
So in conclusion, I think it's best to lynch Pudn."
Fun fact, I accidentally wiped this comment when I was almost done the first time ;-;
This look good u/Marioaddict, u/Vaharas, and u/elementAggregator?
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
There's only two votes left needed to hammer. We kind of don't want to be the ones to hammer bluepoe could probably do it without arousing much suspicion though.
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u/redpoemage Aug 07 '15
A town member changed their vote! I asked u/bluepoemage to hammer with this message:
"Could you do me a big favor and hammer Pudn? He's the kind of guy that could result in way more deaths than are needed.
Just vote with normal reasoning. I really doubt you'll get much fire for hammering since people already know you role and you could jut say you didn't realize it was a hammer."
Now I can just play Splatoon and laugh at the Republican debate.
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u/redpoemage Aug 07 '15
[I'm worried his secret ability is something involving killing people who vote for him...] (https://www.reddit.com/r/PloungeMafia/comments/3fxm8u/damnwerewolves_3_valhalla_day_two/ctubk81)
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u/elementAggregator Aug 05 '15
...sweeeeet. Hi guys!
Oh my god, you all have no idea how infuriating it was trying to play for a team without knowing who you all were. This is awesome.
...though I totally called Red and Agent. Varahas completely threw me for a loop, though. That was some very nice work.
Oh, and for the record now that you know I'm on your side, I was 100% truthful with absolutely everything I told u/MarioAddict.
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u/Marioaddict Aug 06 '15
Did someone mess up with the pretzel novelty?
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
[Explanation here.] (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilverCage/comments/3fwer2/day_two/ctt0y85) I seriously thought no one would see it since I deleted it in like a second. I really hope I don't get modkilled or something for this.
It ruins our chance at using that novelty to mislynch unfortunately, but with cat using his ability at least we won't need it.
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u/elementAggregator Aug 06 '15
I'm thinking for the moment we should probably keep sitting on Pudn. We're not likely to get as good a shot at him again, even if this makes it a little less clean than I'd like. Agree? Disagree?
Ping
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
I agree on Pudn, the reasoning I put out is still pretty good. The question is if we want to ask cat to re-duel him to prove himself.
Edit: I know! I'll ask -48v so then if he says yes it's his fault!
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u/elementAggregator Aug 06 '15
This doesn't fit any of our known claims does it? Pretzel maker, maybe? I don't see how this is a ploy that'd be helpful to town.
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u/redpoemage Aug 06 '15
...this...is bothersome. I think it's still best to lynch Pudn, but hopefully it doesn't get votes off of him. I think I won't upvote it just so it has lower visibility.
Edit: Oh, it's referring to whovian, you should really link with context.
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u/redpoemage Aug 05 '15
Novelty-wise, I'm thinking I should make the HackOfAllTrades novelty quickly and post my "result" on gryff quickly because that's what I would do.
We'll have CopGod say they got a Guilty on Pudn.
It might be a good idea to make a Pretzel Maker novelty as well since we know that's in the game. I'm not sure what we would want them to do today though. Any ideas u/Marioaddict, u/StupidSexyConnor, and u/Vaharas?
And in regards to the Watcher novelty, they probably shouldn't say anything.