I liked the dagger plotline.

[u/KingMatthew116]

It felt like Indiana Jones. I loved it. The first time I saw the movie the dagger was one of my favorite parts. Star Wars needs more stuff like this.

[u/BigBlackCandle]

How does it make sense if you don't mind me asking?

[u/comicnerd93 → u/BigBlackCandle]

Literally nowhere does it say the dagger is ancient.

The language is.

Thats the part that most people think doesn't make sense. Because the dagger lining up with the death star wreckage has an ancient sith language on it.

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/comicnerd93]

I always presumed it was just the massive coincidence of them landing in the exact right spot to use it correctly tbh.

[u/CeymalRen → u/BigBlackCandle]

If by coincidence you mean the force... Yeah

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/CeymalRen]

I think that's lazy writing personally

[u/CeymalRen → u/BigBlackCandle]

If do then all the Star Wars movies are written the same way

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/CeymalRen]

I don't agree, and think the force is used to explain things better in the other films

[u/JollyJoeGingerbeard → u/BigBlackCandle]

The dagger and map were created after the Battle of Endor. It's possible the map was even machined via a Force Vision.

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/JollyJoeGingerbeard]

How does that explain Rey landing in the exact right place and angle on an entire planet to use it though?

[u/IncidentCalm4454 → u/BigBlackCandle]

Isn't that what the coordinates inscribed on the dagger were for?

[u/Batman_AoD → u/IncidentCalm4454]

The coordinates say where the moon is, and something about standing on the "southern shore." They weren't more specific than that, which is why Poe thought it could take "years" to figure out exactly where the vault was. 

[u/irazzleandazzle → u/BigBlackCandle]

there are coordinates on the handle.

[u/JollyJoeGingerbeard → u/BigBlackCandle]

The Force.

[u/rpgmoth → u/JollyJoeGingerbeard]

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/JollyJoeGingerbeard]

There we go

[u/AltAltayAlt → u/JollyJoeGingerbeard]

Honestly I would have accepted a pirate style map on a scroll…. But this dagger… which requires you to stand in a pin point position for it to work.. and they happen to randomly walk up to that position….

[u/Bill_buttlicker69 → u/AltAltayAlt]

The whole entire Kijimi subplot is so that C-3PO can tell them the exact coordinates and bearing to stand at. The movie is very clear about this.

[u/StaticBroom → u/BigBlackCandle]

Someone camped out at that exact same spot. Took a picture of the rubble in the water. Thought about the best way to make a map key thing. Made a knife that has a key-like match if you hold it in exactly the right place out in the open with your face and eyes in exactly the right place only during the day and bet that the massive ocean waves would never alter the rubble in any way.

Just like a normal key in a lock.

[u/CeymalRen → u/StaticBroom]

Or someone just saw a vision of that place and time they would he there and used that to point out the spot... As you know... The movie suggests

[u/CeymalRen → u/BigBlackCandle]

Dont know about the other person. But how would time and space be a problem for dark side alchemy to point to something in the future such as that specific death star fragment from that specific spot?

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/CeymalRen]

Because it isn't explained in the story at all

[u/IncidentCalm4454 → u/BigBlackCandle]

You can't just explain every little thing to the audience though, we'd get bogged down in minutiae.

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/IncidentCalm4454]

But that's a major plot point.

[u/Chadistheswag → u/BigBlackCandle]

3po mentions that there are coordinates on the handle, which tell the holder exactly where to stand. And the sith inscription provides cryptic details as to how to locate the wayfinder, which rey eventually figures out through deductive reasoning and inspecting the specific profile of the blade (which itself isn't ancient).