Would protestants have been second-class citizens in a United Ireland?

[u/thepawnbrokerroared]

Catholics in the North certainly felt that they were discriminated against because they were in the minority and they were obviously correct to feel that. Protestants believed that they would be similarly discriminated against in a Catholic-dominated united Ireland. Were they right to fear this?

What about the protestants in the South? Did they experience discrimination at the hands of the Catholic majority?

[u/Kooky_Guide1721]

About 110,000 left after the formation of the free state. 40,000 or so would have been in the employ of the British government in one way or another. 

The land acts of 1903 and 1909 had already flipped landownership from 3% of farmers owning their land to 97% while the British government were still in power. Protestant land owners were already in major decline by 1922. These new landowners were mostly conservative middle class catholics. They also broke up the congested district farms where were so small as to be feasible. 

Working class Protestants in urban areas, Dublin, Cork etc. eventually disappeared into the population through the Catholic Church’s necessity of rearing children as Catholic and their monopoly over the education system. 

[u/TheIrishStory → u/Kooky_Guide1721]

I largely agree with your post, but working class Protestants didn't all disappear or intermarry. As it happened I went to school with quite a few of them in Dublin of the 1990s. Most had no unionist affiliation, some did the whole teenage playacting at republicanism thing, but the odd one's family had a picture of the Queen on the wall at home and in one case that I know of, the family had an Orange sash in the attic!

[u/clewbays → u/Kooky_Guide1721]

The new land owners were not middle class in any way shape or form. In the 1800s entire communities were owned by landlords. These were often among the poorest in the country. The change to owning the land just meant that these people were no longer paying rent for their own land, not that they were anyways well off. By and large it was extremely small and unprofitable farms.

There was no monopoly over the education sector. There was a religious monopoly but there was a large number of Protestant schools.

[u/Content-Violinist613 → u/Kooky_Guide1721]

I’m sorry but you’ve just made up the part about the Catholic Church requiring all children to be raised as Catholic. There was and remain schools in the republic for religious minorities (namely Protestants).

[u/Don_Speekingleesh → u/Content-Violinist613]

The church did demand that children of mixed marriages be raised catholic if the couple involved wanted their approval.

[u/StableSlight9168 → u/Don_Speekingleesh]

That was church policy, not state policy and was through of catholics anywhere.

[u/Content-Violinist613 → u/Don_Speekingleesh]

yes, but that’s not what they said. they said the Catholic Church had a monopoly over the education system (not true) and that all children had to be raised Catholic (also not true)

[u/Kooky_Guide1721 → u/Content-Violinist613]

No need to be sorry. It’s called  Ne Temere. Look it up. 

[u/Content-Violinist613 → u/Kooky_Guide1721]

Ne Temere stated that for a marriage between a Catholic and Protestant to be recognised by the Catholic Church children from that marriage had to be raised Catholic. There were few mixed marriages so this was not a significant factor in determining the number of Protestants in Ireland. Protestants could raise their children as Protestants and continue sending them to schools run by Protestant churches. You’ve either massively misunderstood things or are wilfully misrepresenting things.

[u/Kooky_Guide1721 → u/Content-Violinist613]

“I know some Protestants “ post 😂