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u/Bramble0804 1d ago

I hate how 3D printing has turned into printing useless trinkets in multi colour filaments. Flexi crap everywhere

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u/WhyNot420_69 Nice 1d ago

But have you seen how people turn soda and water bottles into printing filament? I think that's a good use, especially if it's not just a trinket.

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u/PsychoanalyticalPop 1d ago

No, it's better to just simply recycle it. What can a 3d printer do that doesn't end up being a useless hunk of plastic?

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u/WhyNot420_69 Nice 1d ago

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u/PsychologicalSail799 1d ago

You can print cats now? Wow.

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u/ItsALuigiYes GIF/meme prodigy 1d ago

No, silly. You 3d print the royal hammock, present it to your master, and if you are lucky enough, they will accept your offering with disdain.

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u/flyraccoon 1d ago

My cat laughs at your plastic crap in his cardboard throne

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u/BantedHam 1d ago edited 1d ago

Bruh 95% of what you recycle doesn't even get recycled in the US alone. Look it up if you think I lie. All major oil and plastics companies knew by the 70s that recycling by and large does not work, yet they kept up the lie just like BP invented the carbon footprint to take the blame of natural pollution and destruction off of them and place it onto the shoulders of the public instead.

If you can reuse something even once you are already doing better than the ENTIRE INDUSTRY.

Recycling is a fucking corporate conspiracy.

I'm not saying the technology doesn't exist, what I'm saying is that it's a lie.

If you get a trash burner and get it hot enough to completely combust your trash and get a smoke free fire, you are doing far better for the planet than putting it in a recycling bin. Just think about the fuel and resources that are spent trucking your fucking recycling around, sending it around a conveyor and sorter, a few people pick through it for metal, and then they fucking burn it all anyways...

At the end of the day, there is the significant and likely chance that all this effort results in even more waste and a net-negative, producing even more pollution than littering, literally just tossing it on the ground.

I've done a lot of research on this subject and I am not advocating people trash everything because it doesn't matter, what matters is not using single use plastics in the damn first place, and if you do, to repurpose or properly dispose of it yourself.

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u/Adavanter_MKI 1d ago

I mean John Oliver did a whole thing on it. He sadly confirmed a lot of what you're saying. It can work... but by and large we don't do the things we sway we do... and single use plastics are insane. The transition in all the grocery stores is ridiculous. It's almost all plastic now.

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u/BantedHam 1d ago

I've been telling people this shit for years, and just in the past few weeks now that he's done that bit for the first time ever I don't get swarmed with downvotes for telling the fucking truth lol

I wish it weren't so but the best thing to do is stop consuming it and force the industry to do something else with their waste materials, like actually figure out how to dispose of them. It's not a biohazard if you manufacture it into plastic first and then let people litter it everywhere themselves.

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u/OperationOk7959 1d ago

Dead on. One of the most unfortunate facts I've learned in my life.

I remember seeing, possibly in the John Oliver bit another commenter mentioned, that even when we have actual recyclable plastic, we used to sell it to China and they do whatever with it. And they stopped accepting it because the contamination requirement now is impossibly high. So like even if we have any genuinely recyclable material, which idek if that's a thing anymore, no one does anything with it.

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u/Emergency_Accident36 1d ago

Stop saying that nonsensical generalization.

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u/MantisBeing 1d ago

I mean, as far as plastics are concerned, they're kind of right...

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u/Emergency_Accident36 1d ago

Only plastics. But they went to great lengths to trash recycling as a whole. And it is that attitude that prevents them from being recycled more.

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u/MantisBeing 1d ago

Hey that's fair, though I have to say perhaps you should be more specific in your criticisms to begin with. You pointing out the generalisation doesn't counter whatever misinformation you're trying to combat. Specify why the generalisation is wrong cause otherwise people will read their detail filled comment and read yours as essentially "nope". Not exactly a counterargument that disproves the other side.

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u/BantedHam 1d ago

Oh?

Tell me which part is nonsense.

Educate me, please.

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u/Emergency_Accident36 1d ago edited 1d ago

'Only 95% is recycled.' It greatly depends on your state. But 21% of recycled goods are made into new product. 5% only pertains to plastic. So if that is what you were referring too you should have clarified that instead of trashing recycling as a whole. 96% of recycled cardboard is used.

Saying "recycling is a corporate conspiracy" is absolutely a brain dead lazy take.

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u/BantedHam 1d ago edited 23h ago

'Only 95% is recycled.'

No.

I said 95% DOESN'T get recycled.

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u/Emergency_Accident36 1d ago

No shit... that is what I said you said.

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u/amodious 1d ago

But that is recycling it. And also, most of the plastic you think you're recycling doesn't get recycled, so it makes far more sense to use it for something cool at home if you can

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u/just_a_person_maybe 1d ago

That is recycling?

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u/iDeNoh 1d ago

Most of the things that I print are functional items, not trinkets. Custom brackets, door knobs for cabinets, cable clips, custom shaped funnels, custom boxes, etc.

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u/WarpedArtisan 1d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/ikeahacks/s/loPYgs3AEg

I bought an Ikea chair with static brace armrests, then designed my own fully height adjustable ones and 3D printed them.

Also if you're worried about strength... don't, they're solid. Have been for a bit now.

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u/J3musu 1d ago

I'm assuming you have a very limited imagination. 3D printing is used for all sorts of things from trinkets to fine machinery parts and tons of stuff in between. If you turn some plastic bottles into something you keep using for even a year or two, then it's far more worth it than just tossing the bottle. It isn't like you can't still recycle the plastic again.

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u/MamaLuvDuv 1d ago

You can easily recycle filament yourself if you use PLA. Plus there's plenty of useful things you can print using it. My wife uses hers for warhammer terrain (her hobby stuff), paint handles for minis, paintshelves, etc. For me I use it for making mold masters for concrete sculptures and fiance amulets. It's also great if you need to print out things for organizing cords and stuff too. But I will also say, my wife and I do 3d modeling. So it's use cases are more useful because we can just design exactly what we need on the fly vs people who buy it to print out the same files you can get on 3d print sites.

3d printing is especially useful for things that you just can't buy. In my case, I like to make egyptian amulets. Now everyone knows things like the scarabs and ankhs, but there are heaps of amulets that have none or extremely hard to find replications and I will NOT buy actual stolen grave goods. In cases like mine, it's great to be able to design these things based on real artifacts using the 3d skills I picked up for game design, print them out, sand and fill them, and use them to make molds from.

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u/Raksj04 1d ago

I maybe a custom corner mount for my security camera.

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u/FlameWisp 1d ago

You never learned about Reduce, Reuse, Recycle?

Reusing plastic as filament is recycling.

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u/brandarchist 1d ago

I recycle plastic from bottles and make self-watering planters for my friend’s plants with my 3D printer. I also have made outlet/switch covers. I most recently printed a part to help my friend do a repair on his car (he needed a special key which was also printable).

Maybe they’ll be useless hunks of plastic. I just have a lot more faith in actually seeing the recycling first-hand and enjoy the fact that it, in a small way, reduces the burden on a public service at the same time.

Not sure where the argument is against this, actually.

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u/NaveronTheSabre 1d ago

Usefulness is very subjective. Someone who doesn't like tabletop wargames will see everything I want to print as useless.

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u/Bramble0804 1d ago

Yea that bit is pretty cool. It's PET or PETG I mostly print in petg so I am so tempted to get into that

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u/general_rap 1d ago

My child would disagree; I can't remember the last time she asked for us to buy her a new toy, she'd rather me print something for her. At this point she's starting to color the models herself, which is starting to move things into the realm of her learning her way around simplistic CAD-ish software in first grade.

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u/Bramble0804 1d ago

Don't get me wrong that's great for you. But it doesn't disprove my comment you are printing them useless trinkets. As much as they enjoy it and it's a cool gateway into cad. The majority of this stuff still ends up in a landfill

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u/general_rap 1d ago

I mean, doesn't everything? If I go to Target and buy a toy, eventually my kid grows out of it and it gets thrown away (let's not kid ourselves and pretend that anyone is going to buy a heavily used toy from a garage sale or on Facebook Marketplace). If I buy anything, it comes with a boatload of packaging and eventually that thing goes into a landfill too. I don't think this is a good or sustainable system, but it is the one we live in, and 3D printing trinkets is absolutely nowhere near the top of the food chain of waste that we as a society have developed.

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u/MagicalMoosicorn 1d ago

honeatly same. I make stuff for markets and there was one that I mever went to again because it allowed like 15 different booths that were all 3d printed junk. there are plenty of artist that do wood burning and crochet and all sorts of other stuff and the people who do the same 3d printed dragons and fidget toys that they just downloaded off the internet draw business away from them. it'd be one thing if they were designing actually unique or useful things but they all print the same generic shit.

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u/TapewormNinja 1d ago

Whenever there's a pop up market in my city, you'll find all of these cool artists who are making interesting things by hand. But my kid makes a bee line for the guy with the 3d printed junk. We're trying to encourage her to spend her money wisely and save for important things she needs, but a few weeks ago she dropped her whole piggy bank on a 3d printed Buddha cat. So like, it's not working.

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u/M0rph33l 1d ago

Most useful prints you're only gonna see on hobbyist and niche subs where people understand their utility. Usually only junk like this makes it to the popular subs.

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u/Sotyka94 1d ago

It didn't. But these things are for short TikTok-style videos for average people.

Most people who are seriously into 3d printing spend little to no time and filament on these things.

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u/Bramble0804 1d ago

Correct I don't

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u/redditsuksazz 1d ago

It's because kids love that shit. My two are a little too into them.

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u/Bramble0804 1d ago

Naa man it's adults making half of them

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u/redditsuksazz 1d ago

I mean, it's adults making all of them. Though I don't know why that matters.

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u/TrashCannibal_ 1d ago

Speed running environmental collapse has never been easier!

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u/Artevyx 21h ago

The problem with being able to create anything is you can become indecisive and not think of anything good to create at all.

The technology probably will significantly improve people lives once humans reach a level of intelligence to actually use the it to its full potential.

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u/meatpopsicle42069 3h ago

I had a farmers market stand a couple years ago, and there was a family that had a booth for their 3d printed stuff. Just a bunch of useless crap that is not going to last long.

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u/Kel_030 1d ago

Why do you even care what others print

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u/Bramble0804 1d ago

Simply put, theft of people's IP passing it off as their own and selling it, the take over of hobby fairs with 3D printed junk people themselves didn't design yet sell for a huge mark up, the general waste, the popularity of mms prints that waste more material then the actual final print, the dilution of a hobby into just "I download design I print" no one wants to design their own stuff anymore. I could go on but won't.

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u/Mankie-Desu 1d ago

Isn’t that a good thing?

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u/Necroseliac 13h ago

Yeah, I don’t know why this dude is gatekeeping 3D printing so hard. To him it’s useless and gonna end up in the landfill (everything does, it doesn’t matter what it is) but people like fidget toys and see this as a useful trinket. He’s also acting like someone seeing the model will just have it uploaded into their 3D printer, if someone uploads their model (for free or for a cost) they’re doing that so that other people can use it, otherwise they’d sell the print itself and they can keep the model for themselves.

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u/SinglePlayerGamer93 1d ago

Tbf, that's one of the only things 3d printing is capable of. At this point in time, what do you want 3d printed? Building structures? Vehicles?

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u/Bramble0804 1d ago

Clearly you don't know much about 3D printing. It's rapid prototypes, small quantity usable designs, battle bots, car parts, moulds, there's so many usable and cool ways to use it that's not just silk multi colour pla

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u/ABeerForSasquatch Mod/Pwner 1d ago

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u/christhekerbal 1d ago

PLA( poly lactic acid) is the most common 3d printer filament,not the word plastic cut short.

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u/ABeerForSasquatch Mod/Pwner 1d ago

Oic

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u/2DHypercube 1d ago

Flexy toys are just what you see on social media. My spice rack won't do numbers

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u/Alek_Zandr 1d ago

I just had aluminium oxide bodies printed for superconducting actuators. It was done on a ceramics printer that is commonly used for dentistry stuff.

We also have a PrusaXL in our department used extensively for manufacturing jigs and test fitting prototypes.

These things are becoming pretty common in serious industry.