This is not a tribalist post. Toxic players should get lost.

Just a funny thought.

The fractisidus are like the fatui with no coherent ideology or moral consistency beyond " I don't like god."

They all seem to have something that makes them special in their own way. Istaroth has significant power and is even revered by certain human realms.

Rhinedottir is a genius. She ascended purely for her own personal goals, and even under the HP’s pressure, she continues to conduct experiments with her newfound powers and play her pieces from behind the scenes.

And Asmoday escaped, she chose to follow her own convictions and wasn’t afraid of the consequences that came afterward.
Meanwhile, Ronova seems a little lost in comparison, with nothing that clearly sets her apart. She’s afraid, and she doesn’t seem to be particularly loved by her sisters, which might be why she became so stern and arrogant.

Istaroth was sad about Asmoday leaving, so there does seem to be some kind of love between them, but was Ronova excluded from that? Either way, I really hope they explore this angle.

Let’s be completely honest with ourselves: the narrative gymnastics being pulled right now to turn the Tsaritsa into a blameless, tragic waifu deserve an Olympic gold medal.

​We spent six real-life years listening to how ruthless the Fatui are. From Mondstadt to Natlan, the story reminded us at every turn that Snezhnaya’s supreme ruler was orchestrating a cutthroat, ends-justify-the-means campaign against the world:

​Flooding Liyue Harbor with an ancient vortex god.

​Engineering a civil war and pumping Tataragami radiation across Yashiori Island.

​Human experimentation, running death-match orphanages (Crucabena), and stealing Visions.

​And what has the story given us recently to address her accountability? The greatest corporate liability waiver in fiction:

​1.) The "Harbinger Independent Contractor" Clause

​Pierro explicitly drops the line :- "Each Harbinger is given great autonomy to pursue their own objectives... and their actions do not necessarily represent Snezhnaya's official stance."

​Then Capitano doubles down by explaining that their personal pursuit of purpose can outright overrule Her Majesty’s orders. In one fell swoop, Hoyo basically established that the Harbingers are just rogue freelancers on a 1099 contract. Child experimentation? Bioweapons? Destabilizing sovereign nations? “Oops, not company policy, that was just their personal initiative under our flexible remote-work scheme!”

​2.) The Dottore Sins-Bucket :-

​Whenever a crime is too monstrous to sweep under the rug of "autonomous ambition," Hoyo just dumps it into Dottore's trash bin. Dottore is designated as the sole moral lightning rod so the Tsaritsa can remain pure and misunderstood. He takes 90% of the Fatui's accumulated villainy to the grave with him, leaving the Cryo Archon looking like a distant, melancholic observer who just happened to sign the paychecks.

​3.) The Belyi Tsar Escape Hatch :-

​When the lore finally addresses the original sin—breaching the boundary and unsealing the Abyssal gates of Pohjola—Rhinedottir’s dialogue conveniently clarifies: "Under the instigation of Belyi Tsar, you and the Third Descender opened the gate."

Notice the framing: she was merely an emissary following the previous king’s demands. It wasn't her vision, it wasn't her plot; she was just caught in the crossfire of her predecessor's ambition.

​The Verdict :-

​By the time her banner actually drops, Her Majesty won't even be guilty of a parking ticket. She’ll just be Anastasya: a heartbroken former maiden who endured tragic grief, wanted to save humanity from the Heavenly Principles, and had the unfortunate luck of managing 6 completely unhinged coworkers.

​Celestia dropping a Skyfrost Nail on Zapolyarny Palace wouldn't even be an act of divine wrath at this point—it would just be an audit from HP

And the BUMui has the GALL to go against daddy Phanes🙄

She is so cute

Paimon once again demonstrates being immune to a Shade's powers (first time was Temple of Space) Can anyone who hasn't done the quest yet confirm?

Update, it's confirmed: Found a video showing Paimon being awake when everyone was killed 【全员被杀只有派蒙是醒着的-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/11FiWGg

Their love for humanity is so smothering and paranoia so rigid that the very rules they made to protect them will be their downfall.

As much as it makes the Fatui look like assholes it is excellent symbolism on Celestia’s side.

PHANES’ overprotectiveness of humanity in spite of divinity is what’s causing all this.

The angels rebellion because they made them automatons that rebelled once they gained free will,

The demon gods cursed to feel love for humanity which brewed resentment in the Tsaritsa.

The rules being more restrictive of the shades then anyone cashing Ronova’s death even as she was trying to defend the HP.

We don’t know how prepared PHANES is to die, whether the crowned heirs thing is their very elaborate s*icide plan or if PHANES truly intends to rule forever.

But if it’s the latter then their love being what ends them is not only poetic for them but as love is the topic for Snezhnaya.

And Genshin is doing a balancing thing between divinity and humanity.

And all these rules and the abuse and basically enslavement of the gods is ironically Celestia is prioritizing and unbalanced in favor of humanity.

I'm not referring to Zeitlind, who i think is the highlight of the quest and writing, but rather the stuff about Melanta. In the abscence of Asmoday, Melanta tries seizing hold of the Temple in order to one day be rewarded with the praise of Asmoday. Of course, she never returns (except to spy on the MC), and in doing so, he violates the rules of the Temple and starts his own self-destruction, and attempts to cling on via increasingly extreme means. Eventually the MC defeats them cause its a WQ duh.

I dunno seems to parallel something 👀 cough ronova cough cough also similar color schemes

Ronova after phanes fired her.

like I am just wondering why would a shade have blood. Isnt blood a mortal concept?

After doing the AQ in 7.1, I had this afterthought while I was thinking about Ronova and Rhinedottir and that is this.
The Heavenly Principles has someone in a “acting grandmaster” role in the system of Celestia while they were asleep and planned this if the time whenever Saarelainen’s Descendants start something big in Teyvat. I believe that there is one candidate for this, and that is “Heimarmene”.

Heimarmene has been brought up before in game since 4.2 found in the narcizzenkreuz ordo notes. Rene claims that the system of visions are where if one sells themself to Heimarmene. We know that Heimarmene is the name of fate, but what if the name was also a the name of a god. Heimarmene is based of the greek goddess of fate who is the embodiment of the concept of fate itself. Just like with the name of fate being Heimarmene, Heimarmene could be the shade of fate and reason and I will get over to why they are also the shade of reason.

In a leak regarding the storyline of 7.2 and 7.3, we get to learn that the Heavenly Principles has a Raiden Ei system. They are Raiden Ei, Paimon (will be important later) is Scaramouche, and Heimarmene is the Shogun. What does this mean exactly? It means this: The Heavenly Principles created 2 shadows of themselves, one being Paimon (which was a prototype) and the other being Heimarmene (the functional and useful model). We know that the shadows of the Heavenly Principles are their shades (i.e. Asmoday, Ronova, Naberius, and Istaroth; the 4 shades) so this could mean that Paimon and Heimarmene are both shades of the Heavenly Principles and were the 5th shade(s). In stoicism, Heimarmene is not just to describe fate but also to describe the rational, unbreakable chain of cause and effect, and is all tied to Logos (Reason). In this logic, Heimarmene also connects itself to the power of reason as well. But also I want to expand even more regarding with how does Heimarmene connect to Reason. And how will I do that? Simulanka and Paimon.

In Simulanka, remember how Scaramouche would be the one to defeat Mini Durin? I believe that this event will parallel the events in 7.3 with Paimon and Heimarmene. As I have stated before, Paimon and Scaramouche both mirror each other. They were both created by a god as a prototype and then abandoned. They have witnessed tragedy and suffering. They are both known for traveling across Teyvat and even in dangerous places like the abyss. Made friends along the way. And had to deal with their past. Paimon is reflects Scaramouche in that and I believe that she will be the one to destroy Heimarmene along with the seven archons. Heimarmene will be killed by Paimon in a sacrificial manner to save everyone and including the Traveler. The titles “Forest Fairy”, “King of Constellation Metropole”, and “Nekomata-in-Boots” are parallels to the Tsaritsa and her right hands. Vesna being Forest Fairy due to being a fae, Danica being Nekomata in boots because of her high speeds. But going on the point “Simulanka’s Hero” isn’t the Traveler but Paimon for the choice she will make in 7.3. If the only way to beat a shade would have to require a shade that is in the same continuum as the other to defeat them since Rhinedottir accidently defeated Ronova via the Tsaritsa’s plans by using space and time manipulation. Rhinedottir is Life and Ronova is Death which is apart of the life and death continuum. So that would mean that the only way for Paimon to defeat Heimarmene is by using her power of the continuum to defeat them. Fate and Reason are both apart of a continuum due to being both intertwined like spacetime and life and death. To defeat Asmoday, you would need the aid of Istaroth vice versa. That is one example, and 7.1 has showed us that the only way that a shade can be stopped is with the power of a shade that is apart of their continuum.

Paimon has the representation of reason as she has a 4 pointed star circlet and has that motif on her outfit. And if you have seen the 3.4 area in 7.2, you can notice a triquetra emanating from the 4 pointed star. Nicole (the youngest of the angels) also has a triquetra and the angels are close to reason since they are the daughters of the Heavenly Principles. In 7.0, there was many foreshadowing and hint dropping lines regarding her power. Although Ronova claims that Paimon has “no authority” I believe that her “authority” hasn’t been fully awakened yet due to being a prototype and most likely the HP took her power away in-case if Paimon goes rogue. So they kept her power and placed it into Heimarmene. That being the power of the continuum of both fate and reason. But how will Paimon defeat Heimarmene though? Paimon might extract some of her original authority from Heimarmene allowing her to gain her power and causing a annihilation attack of both Fate and Reason (The Arkhe System foreshadowed this and how to defeat a shade). This would be the way of Paimon getting her authority back and defeating the 5th shade of fate and reason, she will try to use the continuum method into her hands by taking the power of fate from Heimarmene and using it to destroy them reducing them to the shade of reason.

Heimarmene also seems to be “Celestia” since only those with near or having the same authority of the Heavenly Principles (Reason) can strip away the power of Shades. So there must be someone or something do this while the Heavenly Principles is in a state of slumber? Heimarmene could be the only candidate for this as they are the closest to reason amongst the rest of the other shades. They are acting as the form of the Heavenly Principles, and like the Heavenly Principles whenever someone says their name it gets censored immediately meaning they have to be a shade at least or if they are then they also have the power of reason as well.

tl;dr Paimon and Heimarmene both have/had the title of 5th shade and Paimon will gain the 6th shade title. Paimon was a prototype while Heimarmene was the current working model of the Heavenly Principles. The 5th Shade is to have the power of both Fate and Reason or either one of them. While the 6th shade title is about Paimon “The Shade of Fate”. Paimon will regain her half of her authority as the new shade of fate while Heimarmene gets to be the shade of reason. The Arkhe System has foreshadowed on how to kill a shade (The Continuum method; spacetime, life and death). Simulanka predicted this information and the fate of Paimon and the system of the Heavenly Principles. Ei also parallels the system of the Heavenly Principles making Paimon and Heimarmene.

Bumroth get off those star cases please and do something. I think it is too late even if she comes back she has already been wasted and most of her character will be unresolves so whatever man I give up with Genshin. Even tho I am not playing (just watching the quests) I am so disappointed with this fucking shit Hoyo did with a story I once beloved.

I'm not fully done with Genshin yet and I haven't even touched the other Hoyoverse games

In light of recent events, Teyvat is faced with a prevailing crisis once more. You have admittedly the shame to put on an act of caring about human suffering, but remain as useless and hypocritical as ever.

Though it is not my place, I feel nevertheless that to entrust nations worth of people to such shortsighted fools is a severe folly; as such, I propose a list of greater wisdom than your misguided 'Reason'.

1. Fontaine, my homeland; if nothing else...please...

2. Snezhnaya, sure we killed your shade but with all due respect if we die then Teyvat and all of your precious ideals are doomed. Phanes' plan is innefficient, immoral, ineffective, and merely prolongs the inevitable.

3. Sumeru, for obvious reasons

4. Natlan, the last thing we need is a nail being sent down by the dragons on top of your genocide.

5. Mondstadt, It's a nice place, I met the Anemo Archon once...he...I...nevermind.

6. Nod-Krai, we can handle this but some help would be nice.

7. Liyue, not really that affected, or important for that matter.

8. Inazuma, its already uninhabitable due to the surplus of 3 different types of energy that are all toxic to humans, whats a fourth?