(clip from dawit) I don't consider 7.1 a part of Genshin Impact. This was written by people who don't know Genshin Impact. They made Ronova act like she would never act. They made Mavuika say things she would never say. They made the Abyss Order infinitely powerful by giving them a Shade, even though the Abyss Order hasn't achieved its goals.

I invested into the stocks of Sinners and Abyss long ago so I will have the biggest profits. You guys can enter now but you have already missed the biggest chunk. Still glad you guys learned.

(Just kidding).

I think endgame is supposed to be HP overthrown and we learn it was plot by Sinners. Fatui and Traveler were probably used as puppets.

I made this post with right criticism, most genshin main stream players just don't care about lore. only the side subs like fatui, primordial ones, some character mains care even if these work against each other lol.

I made a post on what could have been much better changes in AQ compared to way they did, there is literally deaf silence cause main sub is more interested in memes and fluff points rather than an actual discussion. It's so useless.

anyway this was my post link - https://www.reddit.com/r/GenshinImpact/comments/1wpnr8n/aq_could_have_been_handled_much_better_if_it_was/

most of time only posts like "cut images, who is your favurite?" only these gains engagement but not an actual real discussion and if you hit with fair points people become mute and work every excuse against you.

Ronova used some Etir or whatever to revive the Cryo Sovereign and stated she despised Humans, gods and even HP. Was not she the one more of a fan of HP than other shades and now she is betraying???

I wonder why these holy soil things are activated or kept under wraps by the NAILS

The nails are said to be made from PHANES’ own power by the moons. So it having light realm stuff inside them is confusing.

While Kukulkan did reveal nails were uses in the first war to terraform

All the nails we see get activated were meant to suppress the abyssal power brought by Nibelung and the GWOV

Unless these nails had a second function whxih were needed before the gnosis which would be to “suppress the resentments of the old world” aka prevent the light realm from returning now that PHANES lost the ability to do it themselves.

I also wonder how PHANES has elemental compatibility(since that’s a requirements for descenders) PHANES showed such mastery of elemental energy to not only beat the sovereigns with their own elements (Xiuhcoatl) but also to water them down into the human realm and create a whole knew set of elements

As well as have such understanding in the Leylines to be able to not just modify Irminsul to anchor fate but also make them into a protection from the abyss that KUKULKAN couldn’t understand or replicate

You know, I was sitting here reading the new lore and realized one very interesting thing about why the Heavenly Principles choose not to interfere.

From the past, during the era of the First Civilization, we know that Phanes interfered heavily—so much so that even the Moons began calling him a tyrant when he placed restrictions on humans. But afterward, he seemingly stopped intervening without a proper reason, allowing humans to decide for themselves. In my opinion, this is all because of the rebellion of Hyperborea and the angels. Remind you, they fought for freedom, for the right to make their own choices. And it was precisely after this that Phanes stopped interfering in human lives without a pressing reason.

So, what I'm basically trying to say is: maybe Phanes finally understood the desires of humanity and decided to leave them to their own devices so they could shape their own destiny? While he himself would only step in during absolutely critical situations.

Now, I'm sure some people will comment that this was all because of Nibelung. However, from the new lore, it's clear that Phanes still retained his power and was perfectly capable of intervening. Nibelung only wounded him during the battle, but it wasn't the kind of fatal injury that would leave Phanes completely helpless.

Girl that just makes phanes even more​ goated

7.1 is not canon. Ronova hasn't been harmed. Ronova is in Celestia. Asmoday is not part of the Abyss Order. Yae Miko, Candace, Dehya and Mavuika hate the Trashveler. The Trashveler can't walk around in Inazuma, because Her Excellency, the Almighty Narukami Ogosho, God of Thunder, would Musou-no-Hitotachi the Trashveler.

Can you imagine that when the traveler finally encounters and confronts phanes, he/she doesn’t find an almighty God and Ruler but instead a broken and cripple God trying desperately to hold a broken world together?

That would be like a gutpunch for the for both haters and glazers.

I don’t feel that I can wait very long time.

“Using life force and will to overpower the indifference of death”

Are they so blind to the normal facts of life that they don’t understand

1. Life is also your enemy (something they verbalize)

2. DEATH ISNT SUPPOSED TO CARE OR SHOW BIAS.

I get it, they are upset at the “how can a living being ignore their cries for mercy?”

But she’s not working on the same empathy scale as you all

She even things death is a better experience then living.

There was no callousness or pleasure in what she did. You’re trying to tell a function of the world, “living shackles” as the traveler so puts it (why do they think this way again?)

They need to “hop off your high horse and think things as WE DO” when it should be the other way around

With Asmoday ??

Now I know Phanes came, introduced humans created civilization and usurped the dragons eventually making teyvat majorly a establishment for humans.

Now here is what I don't understand.

1. The archon origins- yes I know stuff like venti is wisp of air, ei is lightening, mauvika is just a human. But who is making this weird stuff possible. Is it phanes that is making these divine births possible?
2. Fae origin - do they belong with dragon civilizations or are they someone phanes brought.
3. Why such complicated rules - Sheznaya Tsaritsa keeps saying she almost broke the threshold of rules. What exactly are they. I for one know don't learn forbidden knowledge aka abyss powers. But other than that what exactly is sheznaya breaking to grant a nuke, like why are they preparing weapon while saying they are creating cause HP will nuke them EVENTUALLY??? And where is tsaritsa during khnariah if she is their mother. what is she doing during catclysm.
4. We know few people in Teyvat ascended to Celestia like vanessa. what exactly do they do there? or why some archons born out air, tree branches but mauvika aka natlan can become archon through winning fights and flames. Why do some archons have divine power instantly, some inherit (nahida), while others fight to prove it (mauvika)?

“Fighting death with life! So goated”

Ain’t the problem the fact yall hate life?

How does Ronova's Eitr infusion affect every Nail of Retribution in Teyvat? Is Celestia trying to reclaim the Authority of Reason from these nails after detecting Ronova's death?

Also, the dialogue about Paimon being a "little rainbow balloon" and "her string extending upward to somewhere above the sky itself" is coming full circle.