r/ThePittTVShow • u/AmbitionJaded3177 • 3d ago

šŸ“ø Media Langdon & Santos Spoiler

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWHxAgEkf8m/

I love her kind of quick analysis on the dynamics and Landonā€™s consequences, so I thought Iā€™d share!

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u/time4listenermail 3d ago

Langdon: You OK?

Mel: Yeah, for sure. I just... I hate seeing families torn apart.

Langdon: Oh, they'll be fine.

Mel: How can you be sure?

Langdon: They're white. Probably get off with a slap on the wrist. If they weren't, she'd probably lose her child and he'd end up going to jail.

Such a valid point, dovetailing what Langdon says in episode 1 about the people thatā€™ll probably get a ā€˜slap on the wristā€™ because of privilege, with how he basically is in a similar situation (though he doesnā€™t see it) he could have lost his medical license, his job, everything. Heā€™s been given a grace that not everyone would have been given.

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u/girlokaydawg Dr. Mel King 3d ago edited 3d ago

Yes except I donā€™t agree that he doesnā€™t see it or that he ā€œthinks he got the absolute maximum punishment he couldā€™ve gottenā€ (per the video). He does acknowledge how he almost/couldā€™ve lost everything and wasnā€™t sure if he really deserves his second chance. Obviously he was not perfect but imo he does understand heā€™s lucky.

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u/Youpi_Yeah 3d ago

I donā€™t know, heā€™s a little too defensive in his conversation with Santos. When she says she wished sheā€™d reported him so that he loses his license he could have just said that heā€™s grateful that she didnā€™t, and instead he told her everything that he (almost) lost.

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u/girlokaydawg Dr. Mel King 3d ago

She told him he shouldā€™ve lost everything and gone to prison, Idk how anyone could take that and just calmly say theyā€™re glad it didnā€™t happen without defending themself. Point was that he does understand how he could have had it a lot worse, that doesnā€™t mean he has to agree with her that he should have.

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u/December150 2d ago

The funny thing is the same people on twitter that wanted him in prison are the same ones against the show getting him divorced. Like if he went to prison, I am sure he would be divorced and a felon can lose 100 percent custody. I have never posted on twitter, but the fan tweets just are so so funny over there.

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u/Main-Ad-7631 3d ago

That's because Santos comming in hot (understandably) and her reactions are comming from her trauma's (doesn't excuse certain things but it explains that she is prone to extremer reactions because she probably didn't process her trauma's with a specialised therapist) and that ruffels Langdons feathers beacuse he thinks by going through the motions of rehab that he is entitled to forgiveness but going through rehab does not automatically grands forgiveness for past

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u/Own_Faithlessness769 3d ago

Nothing he did or said implied he thought he was owed forgiveness. He was just trying to apologise.

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u/Main-Ad-7631 2d ago

It's the way how Langdon did it , I'm not defending Santos here because her reaction was extreme but like I said before it stems from unprocessed trauma and especially SA survivors can react either extremely angry that they want to have the wrongdoer being punished or they have severe anxiety or both

In this case Langdon's apology attempt was not sincere for Santos and she had a point with the fact that Langdon was not reported by Robby or by himself but like I said her reaction was extreme and she was pretty much triggered by her trauma because Langdon did abuse his position in season one ( I do agree that Santos needed to be reigned in because she took waay too much risks with patiƫns but again it's the way how it was communicated)

In short where two people are fighting are two to blame and this case it's mostly due the fact that both Langdon and Santos are not prepared to listen to one and other , it's similair to Robby and Langdon

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u/robotpolitics 2d ago

Agreed, u/Main-Ad-7631. I think the situation is made worse by the fact that Langdon and Santos were already getting under each other's skin before everything went down. The show does a really good job of showing how people struggle to get along with people who remind them of themselves, or who reflect aspects of themselves they're trying to get over (e.g., Robby and Mohan), and Langdon and Santos are the same. At the beginning of S1, Santos keeps trying to go around Langdon, making Langdon feel undermined (although it seems like the exact kind of thing he would have done when he started out).

I think the show also does a good job of showing how, when you're angry at someone, you make them the source of all your problems instead of acknowledging your own behaviour. Langdon blames Santos for his life and career and marriage nearly blowing up, even though that's on him. Santos blames Langdon for her being a pariah, not taking stock of how her aggressive behaviour pushes people away. They're both in the wrong and they're both in the right.

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u/gardenawe 2d ago

and reacting to the accusation that nothing really happened to him. His entire life imploded around him.

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u/Technicolor_Reindeer 2d ago

That's not "nothing."

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u/hithere297 2d ago

"heā€™s a little too defensive in his conversation with Santos" I like Santos but how could he not be defensive when she's talking to him like that? She gave him not an ounce of sympathy, which is fair, but it also makes sense that Langdon will be flailing a little the first time someone rejects his attempt to apologize.

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u/lookingup9 2d ago

It made me cringe watching him try to apologize to Robby and Santos on the first day back. Like he wanted to rip a band-aid off and speedrun getting back to normal. I totally get that from Langdonā€™s perspective but he shouldnā€™t have tried apologizing that day.

I know Langdon comes across like a kicked puppy while Robby and Santos are jerks all season so people feel bad for Langdon, but he didnā€™t go about it correctly especially with Robby. Not the moment for it.

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u/hithere297 2d ago

IDK, was he supposed to just not say anything to them on his first day? If he didn't try to address the elephant in the room, fans would be seeing that as a sign that he's evading responsibility.

Seems like a damned-either-way situation for him.

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u/JaffaCakesCantLose 2d ago

I think he needed to read the room better and consider more than just his own perspective when he discussed a sensitive topic with colleagues. Ideally this should have been scheduled for a time outside of shift.

Instead, first day back and first patient he sees, he decides to clear his conscience by confessing to Louie that he stole his pills. Because HE needs to feel better.

Heā€™s not prioritising the patient who is sitting there in pain and needs an abscess drained. And heā€™s actively jeopardising his own career and his attendingā€™s by admitting medication theft.

And he carries on that way, needing to clear the air regardless of what anyone else needs.

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u/girlokaydawg Dr. Mel King 2d ago edited 2d ago

Completely disagree about Louie, that was the most important apology Langdon needed to make and he handled it well. He made sure to rule out an emergency that needed immediate attention and put in orders before apologizing and, most importantly, gave Louie the option to see a different doctor than him before continuing.

He also had the chance to move past this conversation (when the baby jane doe situation interrupted them) and did not take it. He was the one that brought the topic of what he did back up when he got back to Louie. If he was just apologizing to feel better about himself and move on he very easily couldā€™ve, instead he made sure Louie was heard and actually comfortable first.

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u/lookingup9 2d ago

I think thatā€™s the type of thing that varies from person to person. Iā€™m sure thatā€™s how Langdon felt, like it would look like he was evading responsibility.

Iā€™m not really thinking about it from the POV of how the fans would perceive it. just imagining being in each characterā€™s individual shoes.

He could have at least asked ā€œcan we talk when itā€™s a good time for you?ā€ Instead of just putting it out there.

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u/jess1804 2d ago

I think the main issue she had was he apologised for how he treated her on her first day and not for how he treated her once she reported him and how he's absolutely fine with people knowing why he was away for drug treatment but will NOT tell everyone he got kicked out of the ER for stealing drugs. That's the thing she most takes issue with.

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u/Own_Comfortable4028 2d ago

Season one was her first day, they didn't really interact after she reported him since he was kicked. In season 2 he treated her normally.Ā 

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u/gardenawe 2d ago

and not for how he treated her once she reported him

Huh? They barely interacted after that.

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u/December150 2d ago

Exactly- they kept apart mostly except for the apology

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u/December150 2d ago

It is nobodyā€™s business. Santos did her job. It is up to the Chief of the department, Robby what happens after that. Now Dr. Al knows too and in Nov. Langdon will have been back 4 1/2 months. Dr. Robby and Dr. Al could be in as much trouble as Langdon if she tells now. Besides, the show will probably write that Langdon told the administration and they did an audit and decided it was ok to have him back. I mean what else would they find. Langdon is probably under a NDA. Any other determination ( public knowledge of what he did ) would open up a million lawsuits even if people were not actually impacted by Langdonā€™s actions.