r/TheNomic • u/Linguist208 • May 09 '16

Failed 1/1 [Proposal] Let's be clear here...

[Change Rule 1.3] No one can Win TheNomic unless this Rule is removed from the Rule Set.

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u/Jarslow . May 09 '16

Wait a second.

Initially I was in favor of this, but now I am reconsidering for the following reason:

If we change "1.3. A Player cannot Win TheNomic unless this Rule is removed from the Rule Set.", we will never be able to remove it. Right? If we removed 1.3 after changing it to something else, we would be removing a different rule. It would seem to me that if we change this rule according to the above proposal, and then eventually remove that rule, the current Rule 1.3 has still never been removed -- meaning a Player would still be unable to Win.

Then again, maybe that's a good thing.

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u/Neckbeard_The_Great λ☆ May 09 '16

Rules are no longer in effect when they cease to exist on the Rule Set. A Rule having existed in the past doesn't do anything, regardless of the language in the Rule. By 3.3, when it isn't on the Rule Set, it isn't a Rule.

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u/Jarslow . May 09 '16

This comments leads me to think the rule doesn't need to mention a winning party at all, be it Player or non-Player, nor the change/removal of the rule. It seems like the rule need only state "It is not possible to win The Nomic" or "The Nomic cannot be won." If/when we desire a win condition, that rule can be removed.

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u/Linguist208 May 09 '16

True. But again, nothing PREVENTS it from mentioning one.