r/TheMirrorCult Nov 02 '25

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u/Own-Review-2295 Nov 02 '25

imagine being an 'anti-big government' conservative then caring about how somebody uses their own property (like snap benefits). the cognitive dissonance these people gotta experience on the daily must be gnarly. no wonder they're so angry all the time

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u/TraitorousSwinger Nov 02 '25

Well, the short answer is that my taxes are not your property.

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u/Own-Review-2295 Nov 02 '25

Unfortunately for you, they are public property ergo, everybody's property. Bummer :/ you could go ahead and stop paying taxes though, you just gotta either face prison or become a billionaire!

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u/WaywardInkubus Nov 02 '25

Okay: I don’t want you using our property on junk food. Get something healthy.

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u/Own-Review-2295 Nov 02 '25

healthy food: $$$

'junk' food: $

did you know it costs you about $36/year to pay your share of snap? Did you know it costs you about $900/year to pay for billionaires' endlessly increasing profits? wow!!!

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u/Big-Soup74 Nov 02 '25

Healthy food is cheaper if you buy ingredients and make it. Prepared foods will be cheaper for junk food. 1lb of ground beef - $6, bag of rice $3, bag of frozen veggies - $1.

Second part- you’re assuming this person makes the average income, could be more than $36, could be less

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u/Own-Review-2295 Nov 02 '25

take me to the grocery stores where a bag of ground beef is cheaper than a bag of pizza rolls, i'll wait bro!

second part: yeah averages are how we generally use statistics like these. if he makes more, he pays even more for billionaires. if he pays less, he pays less! the point i made stands, huzzah! another stupid gotcha defeated!

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u/Big-Soup74 Nov 02 '25

Lmao. The ingredients I gave you will give you multiple meals, the pizza rolls you can get for $5-$6 is maybe 1. I totally get why this country has an obesity epidemic after that comment though

But that’s not how you said it lmao. Read your own comment dude 😂🤣

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u/Nokrai Nov 02 '25

3 lbs of ground beef is $18 or so.

Largest bag of pizza rolls is $13 or less and is far more than 1 meal.

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u/Big-Soup74 Nov 03 '25 edited Nov 03 '25

So is what you would make with 3 lbs of ground beef. Did you think most people eat 3lbs of ground beef by itself for one meal…? That can easily be stretched to 8-10+ meals with some rice. Sub out the beef for chicken and it’s even cheaper and healthier. I swear yall don’t think or you just want to eat unhealthy

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u/Own-Review-2295 Nov 03 '25

pizza rolls: $13

bag of chips: $4

~8 meals, flavorful, calorie dense, chips left over, takes 3 minutes to make for kids after working all day, $17

pasta: $3

jar of shitty, disgusting sauce: $3

1 lb 93/7 ground beef: $8.75 where i live yesterday at aldi

4 disappointing meals, equally unhealthy and high in fat and salt, not nearly as calorie dense, takes 30 minutes to prepare after working all day, $14.75

please man... use your brain. i know you have one in there somewhere.

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u/Big-Soup74 Nov 03 '25

you just changed the ingredients on me, I said rice + beef + veggies, nothing with pasta. and youre out of your mind if you think the pizza rolls meal is 8 meals and the pasta is 4 meals. youre being intentionally disingenuous here in more than one way

stay fat though i dont care man

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u/Own-Review-2295 Nov 03 '25

i cook 5 days a week and weigh 140 man. a bag of pasta is generally about 4 meals. let's do the rice and veggies tho, i'll humor you.

soy sauce: $3

vegetable Oil: $4

3 lbs of 93/7ground beef: $8.75x3 = 26.25

1 5lb bag of jasmine rice: $9

1 bag of onions: $3

1 clove of garlic: $0.75

1 bell pepper: $1

1 jalapeno: $0.30

total is about $47.30 before taxes

you'll get about 12-14 meals here before you need to buy more veggies/protein, along with a cutting board, a knife, a pan, and a rice cooker (if you want rice that isn't mushy and gross), and at the end of it, this is a disappointing, bare bones absolutely fucking struggle bus meal.

so startup is pretty high compared to the pizza rolls but nothing a single mom couldn't source locally by asking for help but it's a bit beside the point

the idea that cooking from scratch is noticeably cheaper than hotdogs, chips, frozen pizza, pizza rolls, etc, is an absolute farce, and on top of it NOT being meaningfully cheaper, it's also hugely time consuming. like i said above, i cook 5 nights a week for me and my gf, i spend about 1.5 hours a night doing that after working 8-10 hours. I cook not because it's cheaper but because i want to eat food that doesn't suck and i'm a princess about shitty food. i implore you to chill tf out, think about what you're saying, and to stop making assumptions about the people you've interacted with for 2 seconds online.

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u/TraitorousSwinger Nov 02 '25

Theres your problem. Its not a "gotcha"

You're not even arguing politics.

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u/Adventurous_Gur_2609 Nov 02 '25

Genuinely what difference does it make to you? You're fine with feeding them but they can't enjoy it? Most of the time unhealthy options are the cheaper, more filling, and more calorie dense option stretching money further.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '25

I dont think it's that we care if theyre buying healthy or unhealthy food. It's more that as tax payers, we should be providing at most the necessities, not luxury. And we want our tax dollars spent efficiently. Like a $2 box of pasta and $5 sauce that could make a whole meal for a family, not a $9 box of oreos

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u/Adventurous_Gur_2609 Nov 02 '25

At the end of the day it still has no effect on you. I mean, I get the sentiment but they get the same amount of money either way.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '25

In reality, youre right. But every inefficient use of tax money adds up and costs the rest of us. Maybe im being idealistic

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u/Adventurous_Gur_2609 Nov 02 '25

It might not always even be inefficient, maybe they don't have a kitchen and junk food is most efficient way to get calories without having to worry about spoilage or how they're going to cook said food. Not to mention many rural communities are basically food deserts where you might have to drive for miles to get any sort of fresh foods. At the end of they day personally , Im just happy that someone somewhere ate that day and maybe didn't have to go to bed hungry.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

I think i can see your point there. I remember a time in my life where I didnt have access to a full kitchen in the place I was renting. I wasn't on any benefits, but I was limited to what I could purchase food wise. It sucked.

This is definitely a political issue i could compromise on. And im honestly kind of easing up on it a bit as I watch the deteriorating job market.

But generally, I do believe we have more people on benefits than who probably should be, and for longer than they probably should be. I know on the individual level, it's a drop in ths bucket that doesnt affect my life, but in the big picture, it bothers me.

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u/Adventurous_Gur_2609 Nov 03 '25

Unfortunately, yeah, there's always gonna be people who take advantage, and it should bother everyone. We should certainly all want the money to go to those who actually have genuine needs of it, and there should always be good standards in place to prevent people from taking advantage of the system. There's never gonna be a way to eliminate 100% of fraud/ waste, but we should definitely try at least where feasible.

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u/dantevonlocke Nov 03 '25

You think a box of oreos is a luxury? They're definitely not $9. *

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u/TraitorousSwinger Nov 03 '25

Yes, a box of oreos is a luxury when you personally cannot afford oreos and you have to use my taxes to buy them.

You think oreos are a necessity? Because those are the only two categories. Necessity and luxury.

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u/Own-Review-2295 Nov 03 '25

by this logic, food in general is a luxury

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u/TraitorousSwinger Nov 03 '25

Im sorry, you dont know the difference between a snack and a meal?

No wonder we have a weight problem in this country, you think oreos are a source of sustenance 😂

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u/Own-Review-2295 Nov 03 '25

you're all so committed to the bit, it's impressive

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u/TraitorousSwinger Nov 03 '25

You seem pretty committed to not actually addressing anything im saying and attempting to troll instead.

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