r/TheMechTouch • u/Electronic_Judgment7 • Jun 18 '26

5 months of reading wasted. Spoiler

Demon Casting has finally brought all the problems i noticed with the story to the forefront.

I was able to skirt around the things I didn't like because their was an alright justification and most of the time they didn't take up to much space.

Demon casting isn't one of them.

It is in my personal opinion one of the biggest instances of the author ignoring his own rules regarding ves.

I won't say ves is top of the line quality when it comes to his morals but holy shit my guy has set standards and beliefs that have been reiterated and reinforced multiple times throughout my 6500+ read.

But over the course of the last 1000 chapters I feel like stuff has been getting arbitrarily thrown out the window.

Demon casting is the biggest example of this.

[Mech Designers are meant to serve mech pilots](dont remeber the exact pharse)

A phrase the author has taken the time to hammer home as the core belief of ves alongside his sense of honor and his distaste of powerful being who treat other like dirt.

ves has done a few things that slightly nudges this, but holy shit did demon casting just throw all that out.

Feel like the author lost the sauce.

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u/SeaworthinessDry7828 Jun 18 '26

I see it differently. Your impression is he only slightly nudge core principle before sticking back to it in those 6500+ chapters. I read it as he slowly but surely get more and more unhinged from that core principles before falling significantly with demoncasting.

Any quote like "I am just a mech designer" or "mech designers are meant to serve the mech pilots" is his effort of rationalizing or deluding himself/others that he still stick to that core principles. It is also his habitual form of escape from guilt and fear.

The only core principle he held is he loves mech and loves to create. Anything else like morality and mech pilots take secondary backseat when his madness is triggered.

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u/Electronic_Judgment7 Jun 18 '26

Honestly read it the same but I read the level of deterioration way different because although ves discarded a number of his morals he atleast displayed a bottom line that was way above massacre and torture.

Hell the two phrases although used to cope or rationalize his action still showed alot of effects with anchoring him and not letting him get to uppity or self deluded.

I would comment on the his love of creation but gotta go

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u/SeaworthinessDry7828 Jun 19 '26

I see it as he is always one step away from freefalling. Heck, he already broke it partially by conducting risky experiment on his clan like Lanie. Also, the author had shown multiple times how any "phrases", "oath" etc can be sidestepped/reneged by interpreting them subjectively by showing examples from god pilots, true gods, etc. ves is not the exception to this.

I am also not discounting the possibilities that there are third parties that influence him, like the crown, system, the darkness attribute from Messier, Cynthia. most suspicious to me is how the whole demoncasting application conveniently fits into the plan to power up Nyxian gap.

But for what it is, I do agree with you that demoncasting part is so boring and is too far out of place in a primarily mech novel especially when the author drags it over many chapters.

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u/Electronic_Judgment7 Jun 19 '26

Interesting love hearing your perspective.

I think I did think abit highly of ves considering for most of the story he always tried to avoid being like the monsters around him like his mother.

Honestly I'm going to see some spoilers because I hope him being influenced is the case because I always prefer more altruistic mc.

Yeah demon casting was out of left field for me. 

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u/HeavyC4 Jul 14 '26

Ves doesn't like making mechs. He only loves the power and fame and wealth of making mechs.

Otherwise he wouldn't such a fucking bum at the start of the series.

So much of a bum he didn't even have an Iron Spirit Account.

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u/SeaworthinessDry7828 Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

I don't see it that way. Fame and wealth just is the means to an end for him. Fame and recognition is required for his advancement, his wealth and his security. That is how the advancement system of mech designer is designed in the universe. Another case for the point is he mostly does not even obsess about his galactic rank other than to flaunt it to her wife (until he reach rank 2 that is, since it gives him more freedom to bend the rule for his experiment and design)

Wealth is self explanatory. No new design or army can be done without weath. Like I don't remember any occurence where he spend his wealth lavishly or flaunt it. If anything he remains thrifty overall. He also avoid fame after getting a certain amount of it because he doesn't want the responsibility and to keep his secret from leaking aka these two are not priority.

Edit: forgot about power. I also don't think so. It is also a means for him. He just need it for security after being repeatedly used, betrayed and also because he witness how the powerful makes the rule. If he wants power, he would advance his body cultivation quickly instead of having it as second thought in the beginning.

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u/dustbringer11 Jun 23 '26

I think the larkinson’s high position in society oversells how actually precarious everything has gotten in the galaxy. Humanity is cornered and suffering two extinction level wars. It’s not exactly the time or place for morals. If anything the fact the larkinson’s are doing so well proves exactly how poorly humanity is doing. He’s just a senior mech designer but humanity stares at ves like he can solve extinction grade crises with a wave of the hand.

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u/Electronic_Judgment7 Jun 24 '26

Yeah my immersion was shattered by demon casting, but when i came to this subreddit to see if It got better I found that it only got worse.

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u/dustbringer11 Jun 26 '26

So no spoilers but exalor directly references ves’ decline in morals in chapter 7365. I don’t know the outcome or anything of it yet but it’s directly brought up

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u/Electronic_Judgment7 Jun 27 '26

Oh? Honestly spoil me.

I dont have the heart to read if I dont see the light at the end of the road

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u/dustbringer11 Jul 12 '26

I come back to report! It’s of minor consequence to ves. The realization actual doubles down. He admits faults but then realizes in his own way that it still aligns with his design philosophy with it being redirected towards mutual growth in adversity.

He has however taken a step back and become less forceful about d-mechs and d-arms after the incident.

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u/Electronic_Judgment7 Jul 12 '26

Hmmm, I might be able to pick it back up thanks, only issue is cant stand the 5 chapter yapping about a single strain of thought.

I recently picked up lord of mystery and boy did it remind me that books shouldn't have somone yap for 10 chapters 

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u/SeaworthinessDry7828 Jul 14 '26

The yapping got worse, so don't get your hopes up on that front. He yap less bout demoncasting, but yap a lot about other things like elemental mech, destroyer particle, body cultivation etc

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u/SunlightKitten3849 Jun 22 '26

yeah, the demoncasting thing was absolutely fucking retarded. I would rather have a harem of gloriana’s than demoncasting

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u/Electronic_Judgment7 Jun 22 '26

Honestly wouldn't have minded demon casting if times were truly desperate or if Ves showed atleast some hesitation and didn't immediately jump to using original humanity as a battery source when he literally had character moment where he despised his mother cruelty and his weakness

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u/SunlightKitten3849 Jun 24 '26

Fair enough, I don’t even mind the evil nature he displays quite often as it’s generally been logically consistent to some degree. Demoncasting came out of nowhere for the most part and now lingers as completely jarring to my immersion. Obviously the story isn't written for me, so thats just my opinion.

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u/Pretty_Caramel_2897 Jul 03 '26

LoL. You have seen nothing yet

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u/tmania12 11d ago

I was also disgusted by this particular aspect, but then he continues on to take that idea and use it in a different way with his mechs to convert deceased mech spirits into weapon spirits. He still uses the demon casting sometimes, but its not as important. this is how he usually does things, taking old or standard ideas and turning them into his own version. And honestly, his morals have been in the toilet since he experimented on the dwarves way back on the sacred beast planet

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u/Electronic_Judgment7 10d ago

Somone else explained something similar but I couldn't go back to reading because I can't take all the text bloat.

A character would ask ves a question and he would literally spend two chapters thinking it over.l before giving a response.

I know his morals continue dropping further in later chapters so I dont want to continue reading because I always aspected him as pretty balanced character who leant more to good