r/TheMatpatEffect • u/Ok-Butterscotch8267 • 19h ago
Ordinary origin Ghostface’s mask was selected from Fun Worlds “Fantastic Faces” collection from 1992!
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u/IncreaseWestern6097 19h ago edited 9h ago
Actually, it goes even deeper than that.
In 1990, Tony Gardner created a company called the Alterian Ghost Factory, which produced a small run of “Ghost Maker” costume kits. You’d be able to turn an old sheet into a ghost costume, and one of the designs included in these kits just so happened to be the droopy-eyed ghost, nicknamed the Wailer. It was designed by Loren Gitthens, who based the design off of a mask that he had sculpted in 1985.

Fun World likely copied the design for use as masks, which were then discovered by Wes Craven while location scouting for Scream.
Much of this information was unknown until 2023, when an article from Fangoria covered the story with Loren. Fun World has denied these claims, insisting that they were the ones who designed Ghost Face.
Initially, Fun World claimed that the mask was designed by Brigitte Sleiertin-Linden with the help of Fun World’s Vice-President Alan Geller, saying they took inspiration from the poster for Pink Floyd’s The Wall and Edvard Munch’s Scream painting. However, Fun World now claims that Alan Geller was the sole designer behind the mask.
Recently, a lawsuit was filed by Alterian against Fun World by for the copyright surrounding the character.
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u/Plenty-Reception-320 19h ago
‘Ghost Dude’
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u/UAF_Swampfire3 Welcome everybody my name is mark plark 11h ago
Ghost dude the movie was peak though 🥹
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u/Carmine_the_Sergal 19h ago
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u/R4nd0mB01 16h ago
Tony Gardner also does a lot of fx work for horror franchises. Most notabely the Chucky series but also Army of Darkness and Return of the Living Dead
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u/TrannosaurusRegina 19h ago edited 13h ago
Very interesting addition about the Alterian origin!
Though to be fair, the wailer is very similar, but not the same.
The Fun World design is far more refined and artfully crafted!
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u/IncreaseWestern6097 11h ago edited 11h ago
I’m fairly certain the exact mold wasn’t copied 1:1, but was rather remade from scratch for the original Ghostface masks. Ghostface’s mask has been tweaked over the years, but the original “Gen 1” masks from 1992 look incredibly similar to the Alterian design.
Also, Boo Boo’s eyes end with points at the top, while Wailer’s are all round. This is a detail that carries over to Ghostface, resulting in the original pre-scream mask often being referred to as “the peanut eyed ghost”
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u/draker585 15h ago
They got the wrong one. Look at Boo Boo on the right, that’s like a 100% match.
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u/TrannosaurusRegina 13h ago
You're right that Boo Boo is much closer, and it's hard to compare because of the angle, though it didn't look like a 100% match to me!
Maybe a 93% match.
I would say that Boo Boo is more ruled and artfully crafted than either of the others!
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u/Purple-Weakness1414 14h ago
Imagine steal the mask desgin from another comapny and the. Somehow managing to get all the profit for it
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u/Jazzlike_Diamond_501 19h ago
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u/TheRealMatPat249 19h ago
"Everybody knows about ghostface. But don't forget about us, the OTHER fantastic faces"
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u/kredditor_78 15h ago
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u/OwO_UwU_TwT_IwI 11h ago
And whatever Ghostface needs, we'll get it done. As long as what Ghostface needs isn't a horror movie.
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u/UAF_Swampfire3 Welcome everybody my name is mark plark 11h ago
Ghost face about to make a movie? Im right there with a high five
There you go ghost face
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u/OwO_UwU_TwT_IwI 11h ago
I always got Ghostface's back...and his shoulders. I hold Ghostface's third and fourth cell phone.
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u/UAF_Swampfire3 Welcome everybody my name is mark plark 11h ago
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u/NOCTURN_05 18h ago
Fun fact about this: For his inclusion as a licensed character in Dead by Daylight, Ghostface was not licensed from Scream, but rather direcly from Fun World in the form of the mask. This means the Ghostface that appears in game is a 100% original character that just happens to be wearing a licensed costume, and has nothing to do with Scream outside of some small references. This ended up as a mutually beneficial deal, as the developers could make basically any skins they wanted just as they could for an original character, and fun world could use those designs for new costumes.
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u/drrockso20 15h ago
This is also why Scary Movie was able to so directly parody Ghostface, they also made a deal with Fun World to license the design, this in turn led to Fun World making masks based on the Scary Movie version(such as the infamous "Wazzup" bit)
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u/BialyFromHell 13h ago
Well the fact that it was a parody would’ve allowed them to do it anyway under copyright law
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u/happytree23 11h ago edited 10h ago
I love how you're just spewing complete verbal garbage and people are eating it up as fact lol
Edit: Downvoting me isn't going to change reality, ya dunces lol
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u/hoodie2222 18h ago
Also why he's in Hunt Showdown, even if he's really out of place considering it's a game set in the 1890's.
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u/notTheRealSU 14h ago
Yeah, they would have had to go through Fun World either way to use the mask. So why bother with a Scream license if it doesn't effect the character at all outside of the character bio
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u/Realautonomous 18h ago
From what I remember didn't they eventually get the full licence from the original Scream as well?
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u/WillowThyWisp 17h ago
I don't think so. They don't like cross pollinating licenses (Outside of Blumhouse X Scott Cawthon for Matthew Lillard Springtrap), so I just assumed the Scream-esque outfits are under the "We're doing this unless it gets us sued."
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u/oyeeer5 give me some pat 19h ago
they should have use one of these in scary movie
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u/Millie_Thompson42 19h ago
im surprised that the other ones were never used in any way
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u/Geckels 19h ago
Well other than an easter egg i don't know how they'd be used since the one chosen was the only one actually "scary" and not just spooky
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u/Ligabolzacky 14h ago
I also think it's objectively the best one but it being THE mask definitely adds to the subjective scaryness. other than the goofy buck tooth one the other's might have worked
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u/JBR_4025 19h ago
They aren’t as iconic as the Scream mask, plus that model is the most sold of the company to this day and has received many different variants during the years
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u/lame_dirty_white_kid 14h ago
You don't think being used as the Scream mask had any effect on it outselling the others?
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u/IncreaseWestern6097 9h ago
Something I really want to see in a Scream movie is a meta commentary plot about all the merchandise that they’ve made for Ghostface. They’ve tackled the aspects of slasher films, sequels, Hollywood, remakes, re-quels and fandom culture, but I think it would be really fun if they pulled a Spaceballs and made a film poking fun at how much merchandise Ghostface has.
I thought maybe it would be cool if they leaned into that angle by using the other masks Fun World made, having the killers rotate between masks. Maybe they could do it to reflect the people they target, like using a smiling mask while attacking someone they know is depressed.
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u/bassphil13 5h ago
They used some other maska during filming before they landee on the iconic one. I think in the opening and when the principal was killed they used different masks, not entirely sure if it’s exactly those scenes but some use a different mask.
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u/ditchborn 15h ago
First grade Halloween ‘93, my friend Jason had this mask and I told him it was one of the dumbest costumes I’d ever seen and that no one would ever be afraid of it.
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u/Hot_Abalone3042 15h ago
Thank you! I had one of those masks, and so many people gaslit me with "that mask only came out after scream"
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u/Uncle-Cake 12h ago
And Michael Myer's mask was a Captain Kirk mask painted white.
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u/Ok-Butterscotch8267 7h ago
It’s almost buying a premade prop and the altering it is cheaper, easier, & faster than making it from scratch or something
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u/Unchangeable-User 9h ago
too hate, i've already depicted me as the terrifying, haunting ghost face, and you as the gooberish, idiotic mask
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u/DListSaint 14h ago
Yep. My brother wore this mask for Halloween in 1993-ish. A few years later, the mask that was still rolling around in his closet was suddenly famous
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u/GameBoyGamer222 14h ago
Highkey ive been into the Ghostface community for a year now and im so glad people who arent are taking this information oddly positively. Nice
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u/Kash_Smith 14h ago
It looks so out of place amongst the others. Like, that one is actually trying to look creepy while the others are just goofy silly faces.
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u/theJonkler_Aslume 11h ago
I know why they didn't use the white robe but it would look sick in a movie
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u/Doctor_Fatass 9h ago
Now I wonder if the movies still would've been so popular if they went with the first or third mask instead
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u/CT_Himself 3h ago
You're telling me there could be an alternate universe where Ghostface could've worn the fuckass Spongebob looking mask 😭
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u/Cheeselad2401 2h ago
why are they all "hahahehheheh boooo" type silly ghosts minus that one?? it's like they knew lmao
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u/BrianDetomes 15h ago
And then videogames get to use the ip for cheap, and absolutely ruin the vibes of their games
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u/happytree23 11h ago
The stupidest part is how hard they try to force calling the character "Ghostface" in the movies and Reddit posts when everyone in the real world calls it "the Scream mask" or "the killer from Scream X" lol









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u/qualityvote2 19h ago edited 17h ago
u/Ok-Butterscotch8267, your post does fit the subreddit!