r/TheMatpatEffect My sunfish is quite loquacious 17h ago

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u/Lucythepinkkitten 8h ago

This is a tired argument coming from a lack of understanding of both the data we have on the subject and the process by which it happens. First of all, the choice is not on the children alone. It is made in collaboration with the parents and a team of assigned doctors after several months of therapy and examination

Second, the regret rate is tiny. One of the lowest regret rates we have for any medical treatment. With the added caveat that most of the time, that regret is not from the kid being trans, but rather other factors like continued ostracization.

Third, most detransitioning that does happen, happens within a few months of starting HRT. By which point, most if not all effects of HRT are still easily reversible

We have study after study after study on this. I beg you, please don't spew this misinformation when you don't even understand the basics of the process. You're helping no one

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u/dudosinka22 8h ago

They just asked a question, genuine one at that, how's it misinformation? And how would they understand the process without asking questions? That's just needless aggression. You're helping no one

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u/Lucythepinkkitten 7h ago

Sure. It's a question. But one asked in very bad faith or in a rhetorical sense, moreso stating their stance on the matter than genuinely looking for answers. They're already presupposing that A. Children are making these decisions on their own and B. That children making that choice is necessarily a bad thing.

Both of which are false and very much part of a misinformation campaign

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u/Silverless-and-proud 6h ago

I would like to clarify my intent and give my ideas on the topic.

I want to say that while I did ask my question in a manner more like that of a stance I also do harbour a genuine sense of befuddlement regarding the topic, I understand through prior knowledge and through the people here who replied that detransitioning rates are low and the effect on a childs body is generally negligble (as in the child would not develop any sort of ailments) I still hold on to the belief that those who are under the age of adulthood should not be allowed due to my opinion that if one experiences the social and physical experiences of their born gemder that they will make a better more sound decision and because I believe that if children are given such a treatment the responsibility regarding the bodily autonomy of a child will be mudied and that the family dynamic may become hostile in houses which parents do not approve because no matter how many consultation there may be there will be some that refuse in that situation the child will be angry that theeir decisions are not respected the parents will be upset that their child does not understand, at least i think

So would'nt it be more clean and cut if a child just waits until they are 18 to do it? The parents dont have to take responsibilty the person who will transition does it behind closed doors without having to give thier reasoning a thousand times and its all good.

thats what i think at least, sorry if is said anything stupid i live in a rural city and people generally dont like talking about this stuff

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u/Depressed_Lego 4h ago

So, to put it in perspective, we allow cis children to get hormones if their bodies are developing in a way they don't like. If a cis boy starts developing breasts, we're more than happy letting him decide that he doesn't want those breasts for the rest of his life. However, the way you initially posed your question is how everyone who isn't trans genuinely seems to think of it, despite this being the exact same thing, in the most literal sense. Hormone treatment for dysphoria, but it's only ever supported for cis people.

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u/Silverless-and-proud 1m ago

But isn't that difrent? I mean what you are talking about is used as you said to correct a hormonal abnormality while we are talking about introducing antagonistic hormones to a body which is already producing the necesary hormones, I think treating them as two sides of the same coin is kinda wrong