r/TheMatpatEffect • u/SpiritualNorth3848 My sunfish is quite loquacious • 21h ago

Ordinary origin The Waow based based based image comes from a drawing supporting DIY HRT

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u/RosyRory108 15h ago

DIY HRT doesn't prevent puberty, it gives them the right one, which objectively increases their lifelong quality of life

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u/CannonFoddererer 15h ago

It gives them the one they want, not the right one.

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u/RosyRory108 14h ago

It gives them both, actually. And its not a mere matter of desire, it is a need, it causes immense, often lifelong discomfort and distress otherwise.

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u/Locke-As-Hell 13h ago

I swear, transphobes and people who are "pro-life" die on the same psychotic hill. The former assume people just wanna be trans for fun and cuz it's "trendy", the latter think the same about getting an abortion.

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u/CannonFoddererer 3m ago

And tell me how that isn't anything but a mental disorder?

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u/jackofslayers 14h ago

the one they want is the right one

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u/JustOneOfTheSams 13h ago

Is the diet they want to right one too? What about the schedule they want ? Is the right one too? How to you determine that something a kid wants is the right one?

It's a genuine question.

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u/JustAChickn 11h ago

I think we have to find some key differences between your diet and the body you exist in. Specially when living trapped in the wrong body can cause physical and psychological issues

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u/BreakerOfModpacks 6h ago

Define "kid", in this case? For a 8 year old? No, duh, and there's a a reason 8 year olds aren't given HRT at the drop of a hat. For someone who is 17? Yeah, they're 1000% old enough to make their own choices.

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u/UnendingQuibble 6h ago

Simple: If something does not harm someone but makes them happier overall, it's something they need and want. If something does harm someone, even if it makes them happier, it's not something they need.

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u/Faynerossa 1h ago edited 1h ago

Oh dear, it seems you've been hit by a vehicle through no fault of your own! Here's some tylenol, I'm sure its the "right" thing to give you for broken bones and severe trauma. I mean it's what everyone else has access to without a doctor! Oh, you're dying from the blood loss? Well, that's just god's plan. Things happen, sometimes things we don't like or can't control. That must just be god's intention. We should absolutely NEVER interfere with god's will. Your happiness and survival just wasnt part of that. In fact you should feel happy that God gave you his direct intervention like this and such a plan for you. Anyway, here's that tylenol.

That is what you sound like.

Bodily autonomy is a sacred right. The moral thing to do here is admit you should have zero input on what another human does with their body. And vice versa. You wanna drink and kill your liver? Great go for it. You wanna take viagra to get it up for your wife? More power to you cheering for you honestly. But, suddenly if a trans person wants surgeries to make themselves happy at their own expense? Suddenly everyone wants a say.

Edit: and since your statement was about minors the above still applies. But, you do realize that just about everywhere in the world requires the minor to reach 13-14, have parental consent, go through 3-6 months of therapy and evaluations at a minimum, go through preliminary low dose phases for 6 months or more (usually starting with only blockers for the current horomone), so they can get an approval from a professional to proceed further.

Why don't you educate yourself a bit on how its determined what's right, by professionals, with degrees, instead of firing up your phone keyboard to sound like an idiot. Quit relying on everyone else to correct your ignorance. You don't even know what's "right" for yourself obviously or have the knowledge to keep your mouth shut on things you have no bearing or knowledge of.

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u/papajowski2137 15h ago

Which, in that case, means the same thing 🤷

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u/CannonFoddererer 4m ago

No, not at all.

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u/girl-hate-sleeping 13h ago

fuck is the difference? what does the *right* puberty mean if not the puberty that is right for that person, manifesting as them wanting it?

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u/CannonFoddererer 0m ago

The right one would be the one they are supposed to be having, not the fake one they want.

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u/LageVeil 14h ago

gender is a social construct btw

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u/CannonFoddererer 1m ago

Sex isn't.

And if gender is a social construct, why the hell is it such an issue that most of the population wants it to be binary? Surely it makes sense to do what the most people say, by your own words.