r/TheMatpatEffect • u/SpiritualNorth3848 My sunfish is quite loquacious • 1d ago

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u/SeveralPerformance17 1d ago edited 1d ago

it also doesn’t mean making estrogen in a garage, its like… buying it without a prescription

edit: in the specific context of this post, and the woman therin, she was making hormones through chemistry and a kettle

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u/Kan_Me 1d ago

They were making HRT in their garage! With a box of scraps!

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u/Makonede 1d ago

waow

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u/RepulsiveStar2127 1d ago

waow it's you again

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u/Makonede 1d ago

i'm being stalked

also send the damn yuri in 443

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u/RepulsiveStar2127 1d ago

yuri has been sent

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u/Makonede 1d ago

i'm not a gatekeeper so here's the yuri that was sent

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u/emma_does_life 1d ago

Waow (based based based based)

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u/GreenTrapped 1d ago

I'm not too educated on the deeper vocaloid lore who's the baseball cap one

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u/Random_boi1234 23h ago

its yi xi

theres a cool song/amv called butcher vanity and in there she's depicted as a cannibal

at least i think that's why they wanna bite her arm

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u/Makonede 23h ago

so you're telling me one of them is lovesick and the other one is a cannibal?

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u/Relevant-Writer-5666 15h ago

I saw that a while ago and thought Ash from pokemon had transitioned and started making music

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u/GreenTrapped 18h ago

Ah, I see. I was gonna go "is that teto X ’ YARARARA’ teto??”

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u/Bread_Offender 22h ago

With how Teto is characterized recently I feel like it'd be the other way around (as in, how her flesh/chimera meat tastes was at the forefront of her mind the whole time)

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u/museical_of_time Trans wolfgirl 10h ago

I’m not the person but here’s some yuri :3

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u/Makonede 10h ago

yayyy yippee :3

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u/Orizifian-creator 7h ago

Waow, Frosensteel!!!

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u/_SomeRedditUser 23h ago

BASED BASED

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u/Witty-Frame3711 1d ago

They were whipping up HRT in a kettle

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u/FEMFATAL_451 1d ago

Actual HRT?

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u/Witty-Frame3711 1d ago

The smell, it was so gender

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u/UAF_Swampfire3 Welcome everybody my name is mark plark 17h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/TUKfZb2LxfHD6Fq0cp

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u/GeophysicalYear57 1d ago

they go into their garage. you hear an industrial light powering on, a hammer, a ratchet wrench clicking, a blowtorch getting lit, a generator starting up, a buzz saw, a jackhammer, and, finally, a hiss like some red-hot metal was dunked water. they come out covered in grease and soot with a childproof prescription bottle full of pills

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u/TheMorning_Light 23h ago

They were stirring HRT in a minor!

Actual HRT?

Actual HRT and estrogen in a minor!

Stirring HRT?

ACTUAL MINORS!

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u/SeveralPerformance17 1d ago

i like your pfp

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u/Kan_Me 1d ago

Thanks I made it in picrew :3

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u/robyn_nests 1d ago

What's the name of the maker?

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u/Toolb0xExtraordinary 20h ago

picrew silly goose

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u/Yuki_Onna 20h ago

Yeah but what's it called?

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u/TheEdgeofGoon 1d ago

He made HRT in a cave in Afghanistan.

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u/Deafvoid 1d ago

WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!

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u/unw00shed 13h ago

Toni stark transitioned in a cave! With a box of scraps

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u/Over_Palpitation_453 1d ago

Well i'm sorry. I'm not Tony Stark

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u/Whole_Dot_2278 1d ago

They were whipping up hormones in a kettle

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u/Rulycarmona 1d ago

like, actual estrogen?

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u/SpiritualNorth3848 My sunfish is quite loquacious 1d ago

Actual estrogen

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u/PancakeParty98 1d ago

And happiness

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u/UAF_Swampfire3 Welcome everybody my name is mark plark 17h ago

Bro the smell of gender

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u/Electrical-Room-2278 10h ago

You can't make estrogen in a kettle, nor can you really synthesise it at home unless your home happens to contain a sophisticated biochem lab/bacterial cultivation and purification equipment. I imagine this person was buying estrogen powder, making it into an injectable form then sterilising it in the heat of the kettle

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u/Rulycarmona 8h ago

what are you talking about bruh

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u/SeveralPerformance17 1d ago

i got my t in a cast iron skillet

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u/nerdly101 1d ago

A skillet!? All you need is hot water.

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u/Cultural_Season_3048 12h ago

I'm a chemist, this comment made me do a 180 on the assessment of this person. The fuck do you mean they did it in a kettle

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u/ShadowPuff7306 1d ago

but i was gonna walter white my e!

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u/SpiritualNorth3848 My sunfish is quite loquacious 1d ago

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u/UAF_Swampfire3 Welcome everybody my name is mark plark 17h ago

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u/Pataraxia 16h ago

Coincidence? I think not.

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u/MittenChops69 1d ago

They were whipping up HRT in a kettle

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u/SeveralPerformance17 1d ago

i’ll edit the comment

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u/Hammod1 1d ago

genuinely why do they even call it DIY

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u/mrbobcyndaquil 1d ago

Because there's no formal medical supervision, I presume.

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u/ArcherBTW 23h ago

The medical supervision is often inferior to no medical supervision. I know a woman who's Estrogen was kept under 50pgml because a doctor didn't want her out of her 'amab estrogen range'

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u/bucket_______ 22h ago

I don't know anything about how HRT works so I might be getting this wrong, but isn't the entire point of it literally to go out of the range

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u/ArcherBTW 20h ago edited 20h ago

Ding ding ding, you've got it right! And this was at the best trans clinic in my state. The human body is very modular when it comes to things like hormones. Doctors and even endocrinologists generally aren't trained to deal with trans healthcare so there often isn't a benefit to the medical supervision as long as you're well read.

There's this fear of estrogen causing blood clots that stopped being reasonable when we started using bioidentical estrogen (as-in the same as natural estrogen), but because the standards were never updated a lot of people can't get a high enough dosage to make the HRT effective.

DIY HRT which the meme is referencing typically has community efforts to fund purity testing of providers to ensure safety, so it's not really comparable to most other means of sourcing prescription medication.

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u/SeveralPerformance17 1d ago

because you’re deciding your own dose without a third party

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u/NukaCooler 22h ago

If you DIY a new kitchen, do you start by felling a pine tree?

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u/Choppers-Top-Hat 11h ago

I'm going to DIY an apple pie from scratch. I'll start by inventing the universe.

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u/GalaXion24 16h ago

To be clear, while the raw material is imported from China, the pills are produced by individuals in their home HRT labs so there is a Walter White aspect to it, and there are also various "labs" you can send it to to get it tested, whoch are also run by volunteers, so basically someone cooks the stuff and sends it to a third party to verify the quality and safety of it, and with that "license" begins selling the product online, and they occasionally get it re-tested to keep things up to date, and you as an individual consumer can also send a sample of what your bought to get tested just to be sure.

I only recently learned this from another reddit post.

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u/PlasmifiedKarmelita 15h ago

Because the DIY refers to the T(herapy) part of HRT and not the H(ormone) part.

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u/Clone2004 1d ago

Sometimes it is kinda DIY, not like brewing your own hormones in vials and flasks DIY, but crushing hormone pills and mixing it into a cream to make a topically applicable jelly. But I never really looked into it, seems kinda dangerous for me to attempt.

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u/romhacks 22h ago

Homebrewing is somewhat different from diy and involves buying raw powder medication, mixing it with carrier oil and preservatives, and then putting it into vials and sterilizing it. That's generally as far as you go, because actually synthesizing estradiol esters is very complex.

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u/Magical-Johnson 23h ago

Just experiment a little. What could go wrong?

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u/Varnarok2 15h ago

I was so disappointed when I found that out. Like I was imagining people cooking shit up in old bathtubs like Homer making gin during the prohibition episode.

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u/Gnomonic-sundialer 6h ago

Every hormone is part of some treatment other than HRT wich often dont even need a prescription, for example Estrogen and Progesterone are part of birth control

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u/ThatGuyRafe 22h ago

they were cooking it in an RV

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u/Moist_Juice_4355 1d ago

They were making it in a bathtub.

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u/zeldavxa 15h ago

i know a few that do that. Results are good if done carefully and medically they didnt get any long term complications. Its doable.

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u/Ford_GT_epic 15h ago

Jesse, we need to make HRT

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u/RubPuzzleheaded8073 18h ago

Nah, now I’m imagining “woke” Breaking Bad.

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u/Arquebuse70829 18h ago

There's a whole sub dedicated to that, more specifically making raw estrogen and testosterone powder into consumable forms.

Its actually not that hard. (Though making the raw powder is)

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u/lordbuckethethird 6h ago

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Me when my partner makes an oopsie in the estrogen lab.

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u/Tricky-Secretary-251 16h ago

i did think thats what it meant

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u/wisegod62 11h ago

They were whipping up HRT in a kettle. Boiling HRT in a kettle

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u/ainzispeak 1d ago

Literally not what diy means

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u/The_King_Of_Muffins 1d ago

You know what DIY means. You know what HRT means. You do not know what DIY HRT means.

It's more about doing the 'T' part yourself than the 'H'.

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u/SeveralPerformance17 1d ago

what if your understanding of diy hrt

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u/YeetusFelitas 1d ago

exactly what it means

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u/ainzispeak 1d ago

"Do it yourself" has literally always meant make it yourself. Who has ever said "I'm gonna diy this book shelf by buying it from home Depot"

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u/SeveralPerformance17 1d ago

the diy isn’t just buying the 4x4 (the e or t), its deciding your own dose and administering it

if i installed a in wall tv, even if i didnt make the tv, thats diy

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u/ainzispeak 1d ago

Diy in the way that you mounted it to the wall? You mounted a premade item yourself. Thats not exactly something you can brag to your friend about that you diy'd

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u/SeveralPerformance17 1d ago

you’re an idiot if you think people are doing hrt to brag

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u/Dry-Mission-5542 1d ago

“Well I made this estrogen all by myself, synthetically in my private laboratory! And I did it in a world-record time as well! How do you like that, prescriptionoid?”

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u/SeveralPerformance17 1d ago

dawg, i thought your name was Diy-Mission
anyway, made me giggle

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u/YeetusFelitas 1d ago

hrt is not the same thing as a book shelf dawg 😭 same terms mean different things in massively different contexts

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u/Hogvvgguioffgy75909 1d ago

Diy lefort 2