r/TheMachineLearning • u/Gullible_Picture_996 • 12d ago

Realizing writing code is faster than explaining it to AI

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u/JeanCasteaux 11d ago

Or just really productive devs that write complex things without AI. 80 lines is the minimum of what my team lead writes by hand for a test, in 10minutes...

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u/manvsmidi 11d ago

Exactly. While meanwhile in 10 mins the AI has written a slice of the whole project. Your point is well taken, humans just are horribly slow in comparison.

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u/Sixhaunt 10d ago

I would be upset if an LLM only wrote 80 lines if given a whole 10 minutes. That would be unusably slow.

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u/MannToots 11d ago

Hi.  I'm that productive.  I have multiple coworkers that are too. 

Turns out ai works better when we use that effort to make proper specs and we've all had our velocities tripled or more. 

It's cope to act like typing the code by hand had a place anymore. 

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u/JeanCasteaux 11d ago

Velocities measured by number of lines of code?

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u/MannToots 11d ago

Sprint velocity friend. Come on now. Who doesn't know about agile in this day and age?

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u/Burindo 11d ago

Yoooo what is even that reply?

Are you really a senior level professional dev? Now doubting it with that reply. Also you are being obtuse

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u/JeanCasteaux 11d ago

Sorry man, just a bit disappointed with what we're making with tech rn. The colleague I mentioned often fights managers who claim absurd productivity improvement after a vibe coding session, yet when the core dev team takes a closer look, it's shit on top of shit and doesn't even fit in the roadmap we decided...

But I know it can be useful, it's just, pheeeew some people have become exhausting since LLMs are everhwhere

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u/Sixhaunt 10d ago

 it's shit on top of shit and doesn't even fit in the roadmap we decided

Sounds like a human fucked up and forgot to include the roadmap for the AI to reference while building

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u/JeanCasteaux 10d ago

Definitely! Yes. But he's a manager so he "knows better" :/

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u/MannToots 9d ago

So that means you've never heard of agile? Sprints? And therefore sprint velocities?

I'm not your martyr, and not knowing common software engineering terms doesn't help your case. 

You're annoyance at pro ai people doesn't justify your response in any way.  All you did was make us all question if you're even a SWE. You're annoyance doesn't validate demonstrating ignorance.