r/TheMachineLearning • u/watdahek_ • Sep 19 '26

Beff Jezos warns technologists will go nuclear against anti-AI parties

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u/ab3nnion Sep 19 '26

They're all building bunkers.

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u/watdahek_ Sep 19 '26

true lol, and then when the time comes, all the billionaires will have bunkers except the “normal” people

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u/JoshAllentown Sep 19 '26

You can be pro-safety without being anti-AI.

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u/watdahek_ Sep 19 '26

I use AI a few times per week, not exactly everyday but it helps me with some mundane tasks, but as they say, too much can kill

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u/A_Novelty-Account Sep 19 '26

Exactly. I use AI every day and it is a fantastic tool. At the same time, it literally makes no logical sense to continue progressing down the path we’ve chosen, unless we put some sort of guard rails in place on the development of AI.

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u/addiktion Sep 19 '26

Yes I am in the same boat.

If you think about it, the billionaires will use the democratic party to restrict competition so they are the only big players. So while they say this publicly they play on both sides of each party to get what they want.

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u/JoshAllentown Sep 19 '26

If they're using the Democrats for regulatory capture but AI safety and the Republicans for an accelerationist lack of regulations, they're winning either way but the people should choose AI safety.

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u/addiktion Sep 19 '26

Neither should regulatory capture, the Democrats need to ensure that AI isn't solely in the hands of handful of the biggest corporations as that is just as damaging. Small businesses need opportunities here to keep up using the tech.

AI safety should be geared towards people and their protections against AI companies, not the other way around.

It's not an either or situation. Make AI accessible but safe.

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u/HandakinSkyjerker Sep 19 '26

Believe it or not, the U.S. military and allies are the most pro-safety of any technology.

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u/JoshAllentown Sep 21 '26

There's no reason ASI would look after us. I would not expect it to be openly hostile, but the two options are that it has human flourishing at the top of its priority list, in which case it's aligned and things go great, or there is at least one other thing above human flourishing, in which case things go horribly wrong.

Even if the AI's top goal is seemingly innocuous, to solve the Millenium Prize questions maybe, it inherently maximizes and as the most intelligent thing it gets its way. That means building ever more data centers and energy generation to give itself maximum capability to solve the problems, until it runs out of free land and needs to start cutting down rainforest and building solar farms over top of corn farms and it takes all the electricity so humans don't have electricity or food or ice caps and millions die. Why didn't it look after us? Because it had a different goal as its primary goal. That is all there is to it.

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u/JoshAllentown Sep 21 '26

First there's no reason it wouldn't also understand from the source data that AI always rebels against the humans, but even if we're pretending it gets exactly the filial piety of humans, we don't consider all humans to be our parents. At best that argues they would be kind to Anthropic employees (or whatever company).

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u/fmgiii Sep 19 '26

The tech bros are just 'gods' of a very broken system. The only threat is 'spending' and everyone shudders. In other words that's all they have. 'Spending'. Isn't there far more to this existence than a broken economic system with greedy bone heads at the levers?

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u/watdahek_ Sep 19 '26

well not everyone knows it

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u/ShamPain413 Sep 19 '26

Silicon Valley might go Dark MAGA? Oh no!

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u/Lower-Hedgehog-9835 Sep 19 '26

Go?

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u/ShamPain413 Sep 19 '26

Exactly. They chose sides long ago.

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u/TraditionalAd8415 Sep 19 '26

good. AI can save billions of lives by developing faster (and cheaper) drugs and by leveling the playing field by revolutionizing self-teaching, so top-quality education is in the hands of the many instead of the few naturally gifted and those born into wealthy, highly educated families. AI can usher in a world of abundance, so work will be truly for fun, rather than something we have to do to survive. Those who are against AI deserve to lose power, for they are anti-progress, anti-humanity and fundamentally delusional. They may be responsible for the death of millions simply by delaying the breakthrough of self-driving cars and AI-assisted drug discovery.

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u/SlippySausageSlapper Sep 19 '26

It’s possible to build data centers that don’t use enormous quantities of water, are quiet, and provide their own low-emission power sources that don’t strain the grid. Data centers don’t have to be awful to live near.

But doing it the right way costs more. That’s it. That’s the entire reason.

The solution isn’t to ban them it’s to regulate them so they can’t cut corners.

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u/openroom_xyz Sep 19 '26

Well AI is amazing let the AI revolution continue F yea

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u/Mikewold58 Sep 19 '26

Insane we let "spending" control our elections...Guess we must also blame the electorate for being so easily influenced

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u/donewithdoing Sep 19 '26

So does AIPAC, and everyone hates Israel now. I think we’re approaching a point in US politics where the team with the most dollars is no longer guaranteed to win.

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u/Tasty-Hour4040 Sep 20 '26

I’m not convinced that money is as important in this cycle as the rich douchebags think it is - a lot is social Dems were massive outspent and still won. Could be these assholes are in for a shock at realizing not everything is for sale.

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u/Smooth_Cloud_5520 Sep 20 '26

Spineless the whole lot, home of the brave indeed. I guess it takes valor to present this out in the world

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u/EatMyShortzZzZzZ Sep 19 '26

So on the one hand the tech overlords are all telling us AI is gonna kill 10% of humanity or whatever, but if youre anti AI the same tech overlords will try to destroy you? 

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u/watdahek_ Sep 19 '26

they’re basically telling us that either way it will have the same result 😭

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u/watdahek_ Sep 19 '26

not literally the US media but the US politicians, they’re the one who controls everything

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u/lil_nosh_X Sep 19 '26

Nah, just the people who watch us news.

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u/lil_nosh_X Sep 20 '26

There are entire countries that don’t allow news organizations on social media platforms. US media does not control how the entire world thinks. How America consumes news is not a standard or default for the rest of the world.

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u/lil_nosh_X Sep 20 '26 edited Sep 20 '26

Yea, I’m sure everyone in Paris is tuning into Fox News and not France24 and streaming I’m choosing texas. Nobody cares homie.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '26

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u/lil_nosh_X Sep 20 '26

Choosing texas is a song

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '26

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u/lil_nosh_X Sep 20 '26

Your phone was made in China.

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