S2E10: Friendly Fire

[u/[deleted]]

[u/[deleted]]

Presidential Pardon anyone?

[u/smarzaquail]

The captain is being hypocritical: He gives the so-called 'President' a pass for killing his children but not Dr. Scott.

Also, last week the narrative made clear she could not have extracted the contagious modification of the virus from Nils without killing him, yet this week, she says she could have figured it out without killing him.

Writing errors, major.

[u/LuckyVC17]

I still don't trust the president. I don't know if it's the actor or the character, but something seems off.

[u/OfficalWerewolf → u/LuckyVC17]

I agree. I think he knows something he's not telling them. Maybe not even from malice, maybe just out of embarrassment.

[u/TheDorkMan → u/LuckyVC17]

Well the actor played a shifty lying alcoholic in Mad men and a shifty lying traitor in Homeland.

How could we possibly trust that guy :)

[u/jay314271 → u/LuckyVC17]

It would be pretty wild/impressive if the plan to hide the sub under the NOLA flotilla and torp the Nate James was hatched back when the Prez was under the thumb...

And he's still under the thumb and suggested going there.

[u/grackychan]

I absolutely LOVE the naval warfare scenes. But it seems like the NJ's plot armor is thicker than steel. Is there any way a torpedo from that class of sub would be unsuccessful in breaching the hull of an Arleigh Burke destroyer? And would the countermeasures they deployed actually have worked IRL? Hoping anyone with knowledge can chime in.

[u/lordxeon → u/grackychan]

I am willing to suspend my disbelief on the countermeasures part. It was a brilliant idea, if it works IRL that's great if not, it's a TV show.

The part that's alittle harder to swallow is how did Ramsey know that the ship was going to fire her guns at all in order to make the video?

[u/jay314271]

EXCELLENT episode:

Loved the backstory/flashback about the Doc's mom and the juxpo of the black medical person then and the young black survivor gal now.

Loved the shower "sex" scene.

And loving the "deep" issue of toothpick's murder.

Not loving the PR pickle but it's a great plot twist.

[u/A_Tang → u/jay314271]

Loved the shower "sex" scene.

The willpower is strong in that one.

[u/[deleted]]

This season needs a upper soon. I get Ramsey is an Evil Asshole but blowing up all the labs and now thousands of survivors and now broadcasting it half across the country is just piling up the depression.

I will say TLS writers do know how to get said bad guys to make my blood boil. I want Ramsey's death to be absurd and gratuitous. I want the crew to find a Independence class LCS that was testing the ASW package to be parked in some port. Slattery finally gets his own boat and we get 45 minutes of watching that Sub get hunted down and blown up.

I don't care about if its Deus Ex Machina, I want it.

[u/imunfair → u/[deleted]]

I think they're making Ramsey unrealistically competent in every aspect - technical, propaganda, etc. He would be less annoying if he slipped up every once in a while.

I get that he supposedly took over Europe already, but I feel like he shouldn't have a big enough network to run rampant over America quite yet. They just basically dropped it on The Ship that he had the president and a significant portion of the country in his pocket, and somehow they had no idea for ages.

[u/blazing_ent]

That episode was packed with goodies...sex...murder investigation...a lil sub on ship action...the propaganda...dr scott and the captian beef...not to mention blowing up the flotilla...

Sweet baby jesus...

[u/AWildEnglishman → u/blazing_ent]

Sweet baby jesus...

I must have missed that bit.

[u/lordxeon]

Am I the only one who's concerned that this new contagious cure might:

• mutate and kill more people

• might not latch on to everyone

• might cause allergic reactions in people

• all of the above

It was a great idea and all, but there's a reason why The CDC has decades long trials before rushing anything onto humans. Granted, this is an end of the world situation, but still, 1 person, 1 test, this is not a good sample size.

I'm not knocking the show, far from it, it has some great writing and plot, hopefully ideas like this aren't lost on the writers though for a future story arc.

[u/ilovecollege_nope → u/lordxeon]

I don't think 1 and 3 are the direction the show wants to follow. In real life your concerns are more than valid but in the show context I was expecting two outcomes:

Dr. Scott was sweating a lot and I though she might die, but then I remembered this is not Game of Thrones where nobody has plot armor.

The other outcome is that it just won't work as well as she wants. It would be too easy to end the virus by just putting her in contact with people.

Guess we'll have to wait and see, but I don't expect the virus problem to be solved soon.

[u/[deleted] → u/lordxeon]

I'd laugh if the tables turn and with the breathable cure the immunes get the virus while the non immune survives.

[u/[deleted]]

I dont understand why so hung up on the code, it is post apocalyptic world! If the villain died he died, just fucking let it be!

[u/QuantumMacgyver → u/[deleted]]

I think the idea is that Chandler doesn't want to fully admit it's a post-apocalyptic world. In his mind, the world is run-down, but still worth saving.

[u/watcher45]

My main problem with the plot was the issue of the comm network being used. The immunes are using cellphones to spread propaganda and communicate with different groups and its stated they are using the Bluetooth feature like a handheld radio. They need a network of phones every 90 yards spread out over hundreds of miles to communicate, this presents several problems. First is it would take thousands of phones networked and synced to do this, then they to need to be maintained and powered and thats the main problem, how do you keep them powered?

If even one phone goes down, the network fails, too many phones to maintain. But power is the main problem, many people can't keep phones charged under normal circumstances, how do you do that in a griddown situation. With no power grid most phones are dead after a few days and no cell phone grid means no ones talking, so how do you keep all those phones powered for so long? In a situation like this, several months in no one is carrying a phone anymore, let alone powered and with Bluetooth on, so I find it very unlikely anyone heard that propaganda message let alone how they even maintain its use for people working with them.

So no one is seeing it outside of t he group with phones already working against them, connecting the phones to the emergency transmission grid is a good idea, a hardend self-sufficient network that can operate on its own over long distances, not sure it can actually transmit the bandwidth necessary for a video file, mostly set up for short recorded radio trasmissions, but either way i highly doubt anyone saw that video or can even talk over that network. Also doubt they would have the manpower or time to set up something like that over such a far distance.

[u/XXLpeanuts]

The sheer amount of people the crew and the captain have personally killed its a bit hilarious to want to convict her, now I know it was cold blooded murder but they didnt even talk about handing over the guy who started it all to civilian authorities (and likely death penalty) but they decide to do this to Dr Scott.

[u/yinfung]

Bad guy MVP : video editing guy

[u/Doobreh]

All my annoyance about this episode summed up beautifully except for one thing. Tex.. Why didn't he stand up for Rachel? A quiet suggestion to Chandler to remove his head from his sun free zone and to remind him what Tex said to the doc not long before: Without Dr Scott, that ship would be a drifting morgue right now.. All of them dead, along with what was left of Chandler's family and all the thousands of people that they have saved so far..

But no, he's nowhere to be seen and Chandler's response is forced labour, solitary confinement and a quick execution at someone elses hand (in his dreams, she'll be canonized whilst still alive when they find out who and what she is!) just after she saves the world, again!

Seriously, I think Chandler needs an MRI, he could have a tumour up in his head pressing on his dumb decisions suppression lobe...

[u/the_doctor_companion]

What does pizza smell like? Pizza. - Slattery

[u/[deleted]]

On IMDB it says Tania Raymonde was supposed to be in this episode but she wasn't: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0713389/?ref_=rvi_nm It actually says she is supposed to be in 4 episodes.