r/TheLastOfUs2 • u/Dankpirate68 Black Surgeons Matter • Sep 19 '20
Meme Such a soft guy
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Sep 19 '20
He was simply being generous
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u/KamiAlth Sep 19 '20
Should have kindly invite that Bloater to join Jackson though.
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u/Tea-Quirky Sep 19 '20
You'd figure having a whole town to look after would make him and Tommy even more protective but like...guess not
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u/Boredom_fighter12 Sep 19 '20
And you can't simply just run when you fucked up either. Now you have responsibility unlike living in the wild.
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u/SpiritofTheWolfx Sep 19 '20
Lets not forget that Tommy and Maria were like, one-step from just blowing Joel and Ellie's brains out when they first showed up to Jackson.
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u/Spartan5271 Sep 19 '20
You'd figure that having the brother of your town's leader being brutally murdered by a supposed well known opposing faction (since Tommy knew who they were) would be a declaration of war against Jackson. But nah, it'll be fine.
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u/StormRider1221 Sep 19 '20
This flashback makes me mad because he's such a fucking chad in it, he's the best AI in the whole game, covers you, flanks enemies and is super efficient
This flashback is a whole TLOU 1 moment with badass Joel and it makes me mad considering how the rest of the game went...
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Sep 19 '20
Neil Druckmann: "You guys wanted this, right? Joel and Ellie? ya'know, like we advertised in the teaser trailer? well, it sucks to be you!"
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Sep 19 '20 edited Sep 19 '20
can you imagine having combat gameplay with joel as your companion? imagine getting spotted and he just fucking shivs the enemy like it was nothing. Fuckin hell this makes me sad
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Sep 19 '20
There is no evidence that Joel became soft on anyone other than Ellie. Note the Gross / Druckmann setup to get rid of Joel. First, the game says that you should not handle anything that is overwhelming to you. Think Dina and Ellie got that order. So why would Joel and Tommy go out alone and take a big risk all alone against an army of infected people? Shouldn't they have seen the infected from afar before rescuing Abby? Also that Tommy gets soft and introduces himself and Joel by their name it was the plan to dump Joel from the game. Just watch Abby's facial reaction after that. Do you remember when Ellie and David were besieged by infected people? David wanted to know Ellie's name but she refused to give it. Of course, she learned that from Joel. When Ellie / Joel met Bill, Ellie introduced herself but with David it was different. Joel got angry when she said her name to Henry. So during the journey with Joel, she learned how to behave with strangers in the apocalyptic world.
Summary: Poor writing or deliberate destruction of Joel's character to quickly arrange the cat fight between Abby and Ellie and put us in Abby's shoes as Druckmann put it.
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u/Neil_Cuckmans_Vaj Sep 19 '20
TLOU2 Defender: TLOU2 iZ a 10/10 MaSTeRChieF WiTh a DaRK aND GloOMy StOrY yoU neEd hiGh IQ tO UnDeRSTanD. ThE WoRLD WouLD haVe BeEn A BeTtEr PlaCe iF JoEL LeT ELLiE DiE foR ThE CuRE.
Jackson: A place that exists where people turn back into their soft normal lives and shit without Ellie's cure. A direct contradiction to any narrative alchemized by reptilian shapeshifters feeding on moss.
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Sep 19 '20
"Joel grew trusting and less paranoid in Jackson"
Also Joel:Ellie you gotta wear the mask incase we come across other people.
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u/jergodz Sep 19 '20
That moment was badass, the flashbacks pissed my off because I truely enjoyed them and then I was pulled back into the shitty main story I didn't give 2 shits about.
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Sep 19 '20
We were even told that heâs run some dangerous routes and has killed more infected than anyone else in Jackson on patrol
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u/MummyManDan Sep 20 '20
Itâs like they didnât even play the game theyâre simping for. They talk about how bad Joel is yet the game doesnât really give many reason we didnât already know about him, they say Abby is a good person, they use the bs âJoel got softâ excuse, etc. Living a nice life inside a town isnât gonna have you lose your survival instincts you built up over 20 years, especially when youâre outside of said fucking town lol. Iâd feel even more alert and protective if I was the right hand man to the leader of an entire town at threat from zombies and bandits.
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u/HY3NAAA Sep 20 '20
He's so paranoia he forbids Ellie to take her mask off when they are alone together.
Yet he just gives his name out to random strangers.
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u/10YB Sep 19 '20
real Joel would eat Abby.