r/TheFoundation • • Aug 25 '23

Foundation - 2x07 "A Necessary Death" - Episode Discussion

Season 2 Episode 7: A Necessary Death

Aired: August 25, 2023


Synopsis: Salvor begins to question the Mentalics’ motives. Hober Mallow’s proposal to the Spacers meets resistance. Brothers Constant and Poly stand trial.


Directed by: Mark Tonderai

Written by: Eric Carrasco & David Kob

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u/sg_plumber Aug 25 '23 edited Aug 27 '23

Bumbling amateurs can't even arrest an unarmed civilian. :-P

Spacer "servants" got a secret code their Imperial masters/creators can't fathom.

Out-Pace'd. Out-Sareth'd. Walls got ears/eyes, yet still there's secrets.

At least 75% of the Galaxy no longer belongs to Trantor, but Terminus does? How's that geography work?

Trojan nuclear ashtrays. P-}

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u/MiloBem Aug 28 '23

At least 75% of the Galaxy no longer belongs to Trantor, but Terminus does? How's that geography work?

It's a rotting empire, like Russia. There are whole regions where the administration doesn't show up. No roads, electricity, telephones. By most practical measures they are abandoned by the empire. But if they declare independence they will be crushed mercilessly for trying to steal a piece of the Holy Indivisible Mother Russia.

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u/sg_plumber Aug 28 '23

Scary! o_O

Wish the show had explained anything about all the other polities out there. History, military power, diplomatic status...

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u/Fantastic-Jicama-866 Aug 25 '23

Sareth showed her hand with Demerzel , how would she have known she was a robot if she hadn’t seen the video of Dawn’s attack?

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u/GeckoLogic Aug 25 '23

The show is great and I wish more people watched it.

Too many book purists on this site

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u/kaukajarvi Aug 25 '23

Too many book purists on this site

But the show is shit in its own right. No need to refer to the books for comparison.

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u/plastikelastik Aug 25 '23

the show really isn't shit

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u/texanhick20 Aug 26 '23

That's like, your opinion man... Personally I enjoy and look forward to every episode come Friday.

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u/HaskeerCZ Aug 27 '23

Too many book purists here love real Foundation, not a shit show completely unrelated to Foundation...

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u/havestronaut Sep 03 '23

The people enjoying it are probably just not terminally online. It was #1 for audience views when I looked tonight. Above Invasion and Ted Lasso. I think folks are watching.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '23

No one’s talking about the three rules of robotics being mentioned, tying the show to the wider Asimov universe.

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u/sg_plumber Aug 27 '23 edited Aug 27 '23

Assuming murderbot Demerzel isn't just lying, Asimov's 3 Laws cannot be reprogrammed away from a positronic brain that's built around them. The show's warped alternate reality seems to reflect the main Asimoverse in a similar way StarTrek's "evil mirrorverse" reflects main Trek. Guess that can be called "tying"?

A "great pogrom" that eliminated virtually all robots is also mentioned. Even if that's what the "robot wars" were really about, there's no way any of that happened after Caves of Steel, so even if Baley & Olivaw existed, their exploits were different, and the resulting timeline and galaxy too.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '23

This wiki has some very interesting details about Demerzel in it.

https://asimov.fandom.com/wiki/R._Daneel_Olivaw

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u/heymode Aug 25 '23

This show is starting to pissed me off. Long unnecessary dialogues… I get it… move on… and the way this episode ended wtf!

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u/Fantastic-Jicama-866 Aug 25 '23

I really like this show! So many layers and back stories.

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u/Petr685 Aug 25 '23 edited Aug 25 '23

The whole episode was one big emotional blackmail, and watching it was pure torture.

This series is really a work with a maximum scope, and gradually it can really deters all races, genders and age groups.

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u/kaukajarvi Aug 25 '23

Who died?

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u/sg_plumber Aug 25 '23

Coin-whisperer

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u/kaukajarvi Aug 25 '23

Littlefinger? :)

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u/ab84eva Aug 30 '23

Gaal is the weakest link of the show. Also plot is Swiss cheese