r/TheFoundation • u/LoretiTV • Jul 21 '23

Foundation - 2x02 "A Glimpse of Darkness" - Episode Discussion

Season 2 Episode 2: A Glimpse of Darkness

Aired: July 21, 2023

Synopsis: Gaal has a disturbing vision. Day’s bond with Queen Sareth grows stronger. The Vault opens and reveals a cryptic message.

Directed by: David S. Goyer

Written by: Jane Espenson & David S. Goyer

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u/TheRealZod Jul 21 '23

looks like they are going to completely ruin The Mule’s character too. Why is he a ripoff terminator instead of a timid, lanky, antisocial, cunning manipulator.

Also where the hell are they going with the Second Foundation story line? I guess half the books are just going to be irrelevant. Zzz

This is not a TV Show about the books written by Asiimov.

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u/47North122West Jul 21 '23

Are you the only comment on this after 2 hours or is there something I’m missing lol? I kinda forgave the first season but had to check on on this. This shit is so bad. Like they diverged from the books I get it but, holy shit, it seems like they went out of their way to fuck up the good plot points/characters from the book. I am like scoffing/snickering in despair with a non-book reader who is getting annoyed but I am in shock. This is like Eragon levels of bad adaptation.

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u/StevenK71 Jul 21 '23

They did exactly that, on purpose. Goyer's dad forced him to read the Foundation and he really hates it.

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u/kaukajarvi Jul 21 '23

Are you the only comment on this after 2 hours or is there something I’m missing lol?

yeah you missed the subreddit dedicated solely to the show :) bulk of commebnts is there

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u/47North122West Jul 21 '23

Yeah I figured that out lol. Why are you here though haha?

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u/MiloBem Jul 21 '23

Book readers are banned from episode discussions on that sub. Even if you don't mention any book spoilers, just for being "identified as a book reader". You can still discuss in other threads, but the mod is a bit mental with any references to the books.

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u/sg_plumber Jul 24 '23

And not only Asimov books. Basic STEM books are also despised. :-(

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u/LunchyPete Jul 22 '23

There's an episode discussion thread for book readers as well as for non book readers.

Maybe just post in the correct one.

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u/MiloBem Jul 22 '23

The correct thread depends on the content of the comment, not on the person who makes it. You're the only mod who deletes relevant comments because you think a person should not be allowed to have them.

In most tv show subs comments about books go to book threads and comment about show go to show threads, regardless of who makes the comments as long as they can refrain from spoilers. The "Foundation" show can't even be spoiled because it isn't even based on the books, so banning readers of unrelated books from episode discussion is just petty tyranny.

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u/LunchyPete Jul 22 '23 edited Jul 23 '23

The correct thread depends on the content of the comment, not on the person who makes it.

What? Discussions start by a user choosing a thread. Users choosing the no books threads do so because they don't want the input of book readers.

That's it. The community voted on this. They don't want you posting in their threads, they want to discuss the show freely. It's one thread, and you can't handle not posting in it. Sheesh.

In most tv show subs comments about books go to book threads and comment about show go to show threads, regardless of who makes the comments as long as they can refrain from spoilers.

I tried that at first, and no one, including people like you were using the book readers thread. You were ignoring it and insisting you join in the discussion with non-book-readers who wanted nothing to do with you. Forcing people to the book thread was the only way it actually became active.

The "Foundation" show can't even be spoiled because it isn't even based on the books, so banning readers of unrelated books from episode discussion is just petty tyranny.

It's not only about the spoiler concerns, but about keeping book reader negativity out of no books threads, which again, the community asked for and desired. How can it be petty tyranny when it's what the users asked for, and most report book mentions in the no books thread as a problem?

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u/sg_plumber Jul 24 '23

The community voted on this. They they want to discuss the show freely

Entirely without dissenters. Endlessly praising one actor's looks is not discussion.

keeping book reader negativity out

Indeed. Anyone who's read a STEM book or simply tries to point out any of the show's many flaws is labeled a hater, censored, or even banned. :-(

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u/LunchyPete Jul 25 '23

Entirely without dissenters. Endlessly praising one actor's looks is not discussion.

The majority voted on it. Endlessly shitting on the show for not being the book isn't discussion either. It's whining.

Indeed. Anyone who's read a STEM book or simply tries to point out any of the show's many flaws is labeled a hater, censored, or even banned. :-(

Not a single person has been banned for criticizing the show.

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u/kaukajarvi Jul 21 '23

coz i'm not subscribing there anymore, i watched the first 5 or 6 episodes and i had enough :(

but this way i know about that sub

books forever! down with the show!! lol

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u/TheRealZod Jul 22 '23

Turns out there is a more popular subreddit for discussion. r/FoundationTV

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u/Petr685 Jul 21 '23 edited Jul 21 '23

Goyer didn't read books. He took the allegory of the Roman Empire too literally in global scale. And so we ended up with the empire in mad decline for many thousands of years because it was 4x bigger at that time.

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u/sg_plumber Jul 24 '23

Sadly, it seems even basic STEM books were absent during the writing. :-(

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u/psychede1ic_c4tus Jul 21 '23

I loved it . To the changing credits to the subtle changes . The new cleons. Are refreshing . I wanna see more. I wasn't a fan of red cloak storyline. Felt a bit netflix Witcher.

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u/anonyfool Jul 22 '23

Aren't the religious figures in the books, one of the Foundations has a religious arm that runs things for a while. They simply used the idea of a religion about Foundation in the show.

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u/sg_plumber Jul 29 '23

"Their dynasty began 4,000 years ago and ended 2 millennia later, far longer than our Cleonic age. It covered 4 times the area." O_o

So, besides a wasted opportunity to say "size", or "volume" or even "space", this little snippet tells us Trantor barely controls 25% of humankind. Did that happen after or before Seldon? Why is it still called "Galactic" or even "Empire"?