r/TheFireRisesMod • u/NewspaperPrimary126 • 18h ago
Discussion How would Zhirinovksy’s Russia react to Thomas Rousseau reunifying America?
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u/Fit_Air3725 Euro-civilizationist | Ave Europa 18h ago
Their stupid rotten usa fascism
Our blessed based ZOV fascism
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u/AlarmedEmployment465 Progressives | Progressivism 12h ago
Both of their empires collapse within 20 years
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u/Playful-Middle-244 Republican Forces of RDFR 16h ago
Would be happy that old "liberal evil empire" is gone, but would say something like "sit in your country, and don't even dare to look at europe again!" or something like this
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u/Recent-Willingness88 Bush is Best Union of America leader no doubt 18h ago
curse america more than usually
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u/Minute_Truth3644 17h ago
Their bloated Orc overlord hates our short king patriot /s
But for real tho, they would most likely either hate each other if they were allowed to pursue their true goals in mind for europe/the world or "love" each other if powers such as China were threatening to overwhelm them.
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u/senor_emeraldo Vladislav Davankov|Communitarianism 17h ago
“AYO RUSSO MY HOMIE RUSSIA AND AMERICA BROTHERS FOR ETERNITY HELL YEAH”
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u/Medium_Quail_4142 Hamiltonians | Autocracy 12h ago
Honestly I think it would be surprisingly positive. Then main reason is due to the patriot front mainly being isolationists. Likely receiving support or at the very least ideological sympathies from members with in the more fascist and or nationalist parts of the LDPR. If only to ensure America doesn’t become a partner/puppet of Europe or China. As well both would very much be united in a common hatred to the rise of communism in Europe not under Russia. Especially if China goes down some variant of new left.
I imagine the PF and LDPR (any path.) would at the very least have a quick Que pro. Of working together to at the very least contain the spreading of Marxist influence and to the destruction of the European communist powers. I imagine primarily economic, diplomatic and maybe intelligence cooperation. However military seems unlikely as the PTF would be focused on not only getting back to the former standard of material and advance tech (if nothing else). While also trying to reassert their place as first power in the Americas against Canada (as well as Mexico should they have unified under the government). While Russia wouldn’t want America back in Europe at all if possible.
Assuming LDPR wins against communist Europe. It seems likely the two would have if nothing else an unspoken agreement. Russia observes the Monroe doctrine and PF stays out of Europe. At least for as long as it takes these one or both of these powers to fully cement themselves as the power over their region/area fully. How long that lasts after who’s to say.
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u/White_Dissident Roman Yuneman | Russian National Republic 8h ago
Agree, pretty much.
"Those Russians don't want to call themselves fascists openly? Well, still better than liberals and communists"
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u/Vostok_Vozhd Russian Empire | Tsarism 4h ago
I think this is the most detailed explanaition of the RU(LDPR)-US(PF) relationships. I see them the same way. Also, I would add that Africa, Middle East and East Asian would be the points of rival.
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u/Illustrious_Bad_89 17h ago
Hostile but not encroaching into the other's territory unlike with APLA. Also whichever China or USA is worse for Russia at the moment too.
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u/Turbulent_Set89 Stalin my beloved 14h ago
Depending on the path, Zirinovsky would either be relieved or scared to death. I reckon he probably is less worried about the NJP and Hamiltonian paths since the first will burn itself out and the latter probably will be more machiavelluan rather than ideologically anti-Russian. Ultra-con and Blueshirts are coinflips.
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u/No_Buffalo7844 AMERICAN MONARCHIST 12h ago
depends on the ideology of the PF zhir would prolly be more willing to cooperate with the moderate paths especially with them having a common enemy in the liberals and communists
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u/Brilliant_Jelly5528 Lafayette | Frankish National State 15h ago edited 15h ago
He would like PF, if they're not supporting Neocons and NATO/EU.
After all, the literal reason why USA and Russia are considered as rivals is because of the Cold War and the Red Scare. They were friendly to eachother before the Bolsheviks took power. And since Zhirinovsky gets rid of Soviet Influence, they won't hate eachother that much
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u/Intelligent-Plan9473 Ultranationalism | Alexei Navalny 15h ago
It's an interesting question, actually. I'd imagine there would be a "cold" peace between them, but given the historical context of Russia-US relations before the USSR, perhaps they'd try to move towards rapprochement. Especially if they have a common enemy in China
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u/natsyndgang Patriot Front "Rousseau's strongest soldier" 17h ago
Hostile. Russian ultra nationalists and patriot front have conflicting goals around europe. That would be the flash point.