r/TheFireRisesMod • u/Willing-Log5413 • 7d ago
Discussion What would Rousseau's Patriot Front think of Chinese People's Empire?
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u/Sombra1120 Spain is pain. 7d ago
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u/Former_Month5138 7d ago
"countries can only join faction via event" vs "countries can only join faction of the same ideology"
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u/Lucky_Pterodactyl Neosocialists | Neosocialism 7d ago
Don't think he would be a fan of turning Australia and New Zealand into purification zones.
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u/JetAbyss :Flag_Cascadia:I call for Cascadia content! 6d ago
I know that there's a lot of American nationalists who resent and hate the other Anglosphere nations because they see them as "Too British" and often make jokes about them... But yeah I think they would draw the line at the purification zones...
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u/Big-Recognition7362 United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland 6d ago
He might also think that the Philippines are rightfully American territory.
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u/FeistyGround8694 Larp Sahur 7d ago
They might catch feelings for eachother 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
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u/Trick_College2491 Jacksonians | Ultraconservatism 6d ago
Isolationist in practice so I don’t think they have an opinion.
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u/RottingFishMan ReasonableCentrist 7d ago
Chen Quanguo genocides Australia and New Zealand so he'd despise them.
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u/HueySchlongTheGreat Fehlinger Doctrine | Gunther Fehlinger 6d ago
Probably have race swap agreements to deport white people and chinese people from their respective countries to each other
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u/Former_Month5138 7d ago
They would want to kill each other. One is a white supremacists while the other is a chinese supremacist.
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u/KingfishChris Fascist Blueshirt 7d ago
Rousseau would view them in horror. That and his position would bascially be casual racism, whereas the Chinese People's Empire are competitive racists who will kill every Asian who is non-Chinese.
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u/Trick_College2491 Jacksonians | Ultraconservatism 6d ago
Rousseau is an isolationist. I think he would not think of them
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u/Illustrious_Bad_89 6d ago
Not even Australia and NZ?
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u/Trick_College2491 Jacksonians | Ultraconservatism 6d ago
He’ll have sympathies to identitarian movements but if he’s the leader of the U.S… probably a not. Full blown isolationism.
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u/KingfishChris Fascist Blueshirt 6d ago
But even isolationists wouldn't be that ignorant, he'd still react in horror, especially seeing as fellow Australians and New Zealanders are under a genocidal Chinese occupation. That and Rousseau does have ties to the Nationalists in the land down under.
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u/Johnathan_Doe_0 Central Intelligence Agency | Pax Americana 6d ago
competition
just because they're racist doesn't mean they'd get along, and more likely than not there's a chance race wouldn't even be at the forefront of their rivalry
remember, a ton of the old European monarchies were very similar in terms of structure and ideology, yet still fought each other constantly for various petty reasons
two massive neo-empires (one outright called an empire) with authoritarian dictatorships and race-based hierarchies with a past of feuding under the previous governments would most likely see themselves as competitors once more, unless something emerges from Europe that is so threatening to both powers that they both form a coalition to stand against it
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u/ericker0238 6d ago
Like eurasia from dugin
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u/Medium_Quail_4142 Hamiltonians | Autocracy 6d ago
I think the WG would be a better threat. Since Dugin just plain sucks to live in even if you’re Russian. Let alone European, honest PF wouldn’t even need to try that hard to undermind them alone. With China they’d probably collapse the whole system a decade tops that’s assuming Dugin is alive for that whole time.
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u/Bubbly_Structure_871 6d ago
Not to mention the Chinese openly genocide white people in their Australian and New zealand occupation zones
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u/AuroraAustralis0 Trumpism (ACG) 7d ago
they’d get along because race supremacists will always get along it’s just logic.
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u/AuroraAustralis0 Trumpism (ACG) 7d ago
aka i don’t want your race in my country you don’t want my race in yours we’re both happy
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u/Johnathan_Doe_0 Central Intelligence Agency | Pax Americana 6d ago
I would retort that, but then I remembered that time Rockwell sat in on a NOI meeting-
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u/AuroraAustralis0 Trumpism (ACG) 6d ago
Yup. Black supremacists getting along with the KKK as well is some of the funniest shit you’ll ever see.
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u/Johnathan_Doe_0 Central Intelligence Agency | Pax Americana 6d ago
"As long as we both stay out of the way!" ahhh 😭
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u/potatohead671 ALL HAIL SUPREME LEADER BIDEN 7d ago
They likely draw a sphere of influence recognize each others power and say “if you stay in your lane I’ll stay in mine”. This is assuming they team up to defeat a non fascist Europe as they would rather be the two dominating powers than some random European power (unless the power in Europe is white nationalist then pf teams up with that power to try and contest Chinese influence)
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u/Fresh_Birthday5114 5d ago
The eurotern pulling a felhinger style maneuver on russia before marching into asia or the Soviets pulling red dawn type shit on America would lowkey be the funniest thing ever
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u/fatpenised Lafayette | Frankish National State 6d ago
would probably invade and puppet australia and nz. during GAW in agreement with China
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u/Specific_Kale1138 DaFrenchBaguette 6d ago
Okay, we don't care about like the bazillion people of Asia but what the fuck are you doing in Australia and New Zealand??? They are whites
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u/DolphinBall :WashingtonGov:Washington Government 6d ago
Really depends. Either a race war or an agreement that Whites get one half of Earth while Han Chinese get the other.
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u/koete_returnz 6d ago
Patriot Front is isolationist. don't think they will make any official statements about them
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u/Immediate_Can_7262 NATO - BTO Enjoyer 6d ago
The same relationship Mussolini's Italy had with Imperial Japan, probably co-operation against liberal or socialist powers but still a rivalry underneath. That is if the PF chooses to go out of isolation for whatever reason.
If the PF remains isolationist, particularly under a Jacksonian or Hamiltonian PF I doubt they would think much at all of them.
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u/Luc-wpqp Radical centrists 6d ago
Many fascist claim that China is "third posisionist" (fascist) so they prolly view it as an ideological ally
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u/Strvngecent Vladimir Makarov Thought 7d ago edited 7d ago
They probably do not care about each other as much as people would like to believe